User talk:Lauragrossman

June 2020
Hello, I'm Nkon21. I noticed that you made an edit to a biography of a living person, Moshe Kasher, but you didn’t support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. Wikipedia has a strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯  talk  05:08, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, Lauragrossman, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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June 2020
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Moshe Kasher, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯  talk  05:21, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

This is a photo I took that the subject of the article picked to appear in this spot. What do I need to do to verify that? Please stop undoing my changes. thanks ɴᴋᴏɴ21
 * I believe the main issue was re-adding unsourced content, the picture just happened to be caught in the edit. Please make sure to only add sourced content to Wikipedia. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 05:40, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Moshe Kasher. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. John from Idegon (talk) 07:02, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Also, you have not clarified your relationship with the subject of the article. Please do so before any further edits. John from Idegon (talk) 07:02, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
You may be blocked from editing without further warning if you make any further edits without responding to the inquiry you received regarding undisclosed paid editing. John from Idegon (talk) 08:53, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You've asked for admin help, but not specified a question or issue to be helped with. Though I do see that several folks have asked you to declare whether or not you are being paid or compensated for your edits in any way. That is required for transparency, if you fail to do so you violate the terms of service. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:02, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I left that, and they've edited the article in question since I left it. Please (minimally) block from article in question until they address the paid issue. John from Idegon (talk) 22:07, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Oh sorry John, didn't realize that. Make sure to leave a more clear note in the future so that the responding admin can quickly take action. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:44, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Moshe Kasher) for a period of 1 month for continued unsourced edits, and lack of communication regarding a potential conflict of interest. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * For you continued failure to respond to questions regarding a potential conflict of interest, and your unsourced additions, I have blocked you for a month. If at the end of the month you have not responded, and go back to editing the page without discussing a potential conflict of interest, I will block you from the page permanently. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 22:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I have repeatedly tried to cite sources that comply with your guidelines. First I did a primary source, then I did a secondary source. I am not being compensated for my edits. Please tell me what I need to do to keep my edits active on this page. Lauragrossman (talk) 03:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Do you know the subject in any way, or otherwise have a conflict of interest? This is the only article you have edited so far. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:53, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

I haven’t checked this page in a few days and didn’t realize I was being threatened with blocking. I am trying to resolve the issue once and for all. I have not been paid to make edits on this page, and I thought I was citing correctly, first with primary sources then with secondary. What can I do so my edits stay up? Lauragrossman (talk) 03:56, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Just saw your message, I do not have a conflict of interest. Lauragrossman (talk) 03:57, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Can my edits be reinstated? Lauragrossman (talk) 04:00, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Do you understand why your edits were undone? CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:13, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

I understand that they were undone at first because I didn’t cite them correctly. I tried to fix that by first citing a primary source (my additions to the page were about a podcast, so I linked to the Apple podcast page which validates all the information I included), then citing a secondary source. Then my compensation was called into question, which again I will state I am not being compensated for this, and my personal connection to the subject was questioned, which again I don’t have one. I don’t know how to prove not knowing someone, but if you have a way, please share. I just want this to be resolved. I have never edited a Wikipedia before and this frankly hasn’t been a positive experience. I am just trying to contribute to the community and have a podcast I really like represented on the Wikipedia page of its host. Is that too much to ask? Lauragrossman (talk) 04:33, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , I believe you that you have no connection. I'm sorry this has been an unpleasant experience, and I will unblock you. However, please make sure to pay attention to your talk page in the future, you should receive notifications when new messages are added. I only blocked you because we couldn't seem to get your attention any other way. As a note, you need to add a reliable source for every edit. For the podcast you've been trying to add, you'll need to use a reliable secondary source, which has thus far been lacking. You might wish to ask at the friendly Teahouse for some help with reliable sources :) CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 04:56, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay yes, thank you! I will work on getting a reliable source. Lauragrossman (talk) 04:57, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Moshe Kasher, you may be blocked from editing. John from Idegon (talk) 19:15, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi John, how is my editing disruptive?? I cited four independent secondary sources. I took out the word “success” because I was told it wasn’t allowed unless in a direct quote. Please help me take my three sentence addition and make it into something that doesn’t get taken down anymore. Any help you can provide would be appreciated Lauragrossman (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Despite repeated warnings, you continue to add poor content to this article, and you are doing it with some sort of imperative. Captian Eek may have believed you; I don't. Add one single additional word to this article that hasn't been paraphrased from a reliable secondary source, and I will seek a WP:CIR block for you. I explained ad nauseam in the edit summary. You are promoting this individual. Are you an obsessed fan? That's the only other plausible explanation for your behavior here, other than you are promoting him for some percieved gain. John from Idegon (talk) 23:01, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi John, I am not trying to stir anything up at this point I am just trying to learn to figure out what about my addition isn't allowed. I stated facts, listed both primary and secondary sources, and made changes as they were suggested to me. The addition I am trying to make is this:

"Following their Netflix special, Moshe and his wife Natasha Leggero premiered The Endless Honeymoon Podcast on the Cloud10 podcast network in July of 2019. The two discuss their own relationship, give advice to live callers and react to secrets listeners have left on their voicemail line. Guests have included: Seth Rogen, Chelsea Handler, Chelsea Peretti, Hannibal Buress, Tiffany Haddish, Anthony Jeselnik, Judd Apatow, Tig Notaro, and others."

What about that isn't allowed? I am not promoting the subject of this article, I am just writing a list of facts that are easily verifiable online, but haven't been listed in that way in any one press article. What about what I've written is promotional? This is my first experience editing a wikipedia article (clearly lol), so I'm trying to learn.

I just don't understand why this is such a big deal, when nothing I'm trying to add is remotely controversial or promotional. I am trying to have basic info about one of my favorite podcasts represented on the wikipedia page of it's host. Why is that not allowed?

I won’t try to make any more changes until you approve the exact wording and sourcing, but I want to get this in shape to be added and stay up Lauragrossman (talk) 23:19, 1 July 2020 (UTC)