User talk:Laveol/2008/October

Zajdi, zajdi, jasno sonce references
Hello, would it be possible to bolster the references for this? I've added some Google hits to the talk page, though I suspect there may be other print sources beyond Google's reach. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  17:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

draslajca
where on earth do you find information like this: In Ethnographie des Vilayets d'Adrianople, de Monastir et de Salonique the French newspaper Le Courrier d'Orient'' had the village listed as having 40 households and a male population of 112 people, all Bulgarian. According to ethnographer Vasil Kanchov in 1900 the village had a population of 340 Bulgarians. The village was within the borders of the Bulgarian Exarchate. The Exarchate secretary Dimitar Mishev, in 1905 the village was inhabited by 360 Bulgarian exarchists and a functioning Bulgarian school. '' from? do you google it on purpose? lol PMK1 (talk) 11:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * What's the problem with it. I saw you had written there's no mention of the village until the XXth century and it's not hard to assume some travellers and ethnographers have come across it earlier. That's the data from them. If you don't like the Bulgarian sources, I don't see what's the problem with the French one. Especially since it's the only data you have for the village from the whole XIXth century. -- L a v e o l  T 13:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh no i am not complaining. There are actually very few documents about the village or concerning the actual village not the demographics. There isn't a problem on my behalf but i think some other people will have problems. :) PMK1 (talk) 23:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, well rhese are ethnographic studies besides else. I've noticed they have some info on regions, but rarely on a particular village. If I find something interesting, I'll add it, be sure :) -- L a v e o l  T 00:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If they have any specific info on villages in the Struga region be sure to let me know. :) PMK1 (talk) 05:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, but I'll involve in your discussion. PMK1 do you interested in a report by school inspector Ian. Derebanov from 1907 about some villages in Struga region (Radozhda, Kalishta, Vlaj, Zagrachani, Veэchani, Mesheishta etc.), published in Етнография на Македония. Извори и материали в два тома, т. 2, София 1992, с.70-76? If you interested, I can scan and send it.--JSimin (talk) 17:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

VANDALISM
“Laveol”, “Miskin” and “Kryston”, all probably biased by their eventual Greek or Macedonian (FYROM) origins, obviously working in concert, permanently vandalise the page of Seleucid Empire removing from the Macedonian empire of Alexander the Great its "Macedonian" designation. We need an arbitration.Draganparis (talk) 11:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No, they do not. This is a content dispute and no vandalism. On the other hand continuosly accusing other users of vandalism with no reason at all, might lead to sanction. Please, bear it in mind. -- L a v e o l  T 18:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Intimidations? Wow, wonderful. Dear friend, this is the first time that I claimed “vandalism” in the last 5 years. I observed the ridiculous thing: that a group of 5-7 people systematically remove denomination “Macedonian” from the Hellenistic sites of any kind. Hellenism is cultural term, invented by Droysen, German historian (who hardly used it in his 19 century book that had couple editions then, and has been printed only in German, last edition is in 3 tomes) but was quickly extended to cover all what could belong to kind of Greek culture mixed with oriental elements during the Macedonian empire of Alexander the Great and later. I am certain that you know this. The Roman Empire carried it further as Roman cultural heritage. Of course it was imported from (today’s territorial) Greece, and Rome was in that sense fully Hellenised. We are all also in that, now quite irrelevant sense, Hellenised. That group, where you, as I believe, belong too, do not care about Hellenisation of the Western culture, but care very much about a kind of transfer of Hellenism to today Hellenic Republic and all terribly complicated “salad” of political confusion. The term is used as a political term to describe political aspect of Macedonian political states (kingdoms) of Diadochi and to influence today's political disputes, describing it as identical with todays Greece. THIS CONFLICTS MUST BE REMOVED FROM WIKIPEDIA. This is what I hold for important, and you, if you would like to do decent job on this wonderful site of Wikipedia, should help to stop with systematic removal of the “Macedonian” reference from the history pages and should not act as you do. Thanks. Draganparis (talk) 10:19, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece
An article that you have been involved in editing, Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Exodus of Ethnic Macedonians from Greece. Thank you. Avg (talk) 20:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)