User talk:Laveol/2009/May

April 2009
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 * I am sure that the reverting can wait until WP:ARBMAC2 is closed. I plan on having no more involvement with the issue. PMK1 (talk) 00:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Interesting point of veiw.
I am surprised that you have that certain point of view regarding Pomaks. However "Pomak" or "Torbeš" nationalism is virtually non-existant. Many Macedonian Muslims get offended should you call them a Torbeš, that is why I try to stay clear of the term. It originates from the old tale, that the Torbeš sold himself to Islam for a sack of Goats cheese. Many are unsure of what to identify as; Turks, Albanians, Macedonians, Bosniaks, Muslims?
 * Heres an example, Labuništa one of the largest Mkd Muslim villages in ROM; but the 2002 census reported 4,288 Albanians, 879 Turks, 371 Macedonians, 31 Bosniaks and 362 Others (Muslims). Maybe they are a people still finding themselves, who knows? What is it like in Bulgaria? PMK1 (talk) 12:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, it's pretty much the same. The view about them strays from "they are cowards and traitors that betrayed their own believe" to "they are patriotic strong Bulgarians, mountaineers". Since we're like that all over the Balkans and since they were offended so many times, they, too, avoid self-identifying as Pomaks, opting for the more prestigious Turkish and Bulgarian identity (Mind you, that's the same tactic applied by some Roma people who are sick of being identified as the rest). Pomaks tend to identify as such in Pomak-only villages - when they're not mixed with Bulgarians or Turks. I'll try finding the book about them I recently saw. It's really curious and a pitty I'm not swimming in free time now :( -- L a v e o l  T 21:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Those occurances have been happening at Axioupoli and Polykastro for over 2 weeks now. I dont think that the user understood what was happening and to not put in random lists of people! PMK1 (talk) 00:53, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

ŠTIP
What are you talking about is nonsence, which Bulagrian army liberated Štip, that is POV of the POV, yes you will reach the goal, but remember,trkaloto se vrti.

Štip was liberated by Macedonian partisans and not by the Bulgarian fashists.Makedonij (talk) 20:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you actually threatening me? The wheel is turning...?-- L a v e o l  T 20:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You could read this article for a starter. If you need refs I'll provide you with some. Do you prefer them in English, Russian or Bulgarian. They seem to agree on the info about the latter stages of the war. -- L a v e o l  T 20:40, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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