User talk:Laveol/2016/November

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CSKA and CSKA-Sofia formal mediation
Hello, Laveol!

I'm writing you because of your participation in the discussions about CSKA and CSKA-Sofia. I've read your comments on both Bulgarian and English Wiki and your position seems to be relatively close to mine, although not utterly the same. Several weeks ago TV Boy started reverting my edits, something he's been doing since the day I joined this discussion, claiming that other users like you and Chris Calvin, who used to share my opinion, now agree with him (TV Boy) and I should leave the discussion. However, from what I read, you are advocating for some kind of compromise and a neutral and objective version which the current one isn't, IMO. Neither you, nor Chris Calvin agreed with TV Boy or at least I can't find any confirmation from your recent activity. Of course you could have changed your mind as he claims but I'd like to hear it from you. The same is in force for Chris Calvin. Would you please tell me whether you agree with TV Boy's viewpoint and whether you support him now? My second question is about the formal mediation I'm going to ask for. This decision came as a result of what I perceive as uncooperative behavior of another user and personal harassment preventing me from contributing to Wiki. I think that the best way to resolve the dispute is with the help of English speaking moderators because all Bulgarian users are biased at least to a certain extent, regardless which football club they support. Are you willing to take part in the mediation process? If yes, no matter what your current position us, please state it on PFC CSKA's talk page.

Regards! --Ivo (talk) 16:24, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been reverting BG89's edits for the same reason Laveol started reverting KZL1948's edits - fan trolling, but "in the other sector", the one of a Levski fan. However BG89 turned out to be far more aggressive and stubborn with his actions than KZL, going as far as manipulating and twisting my accusations for him, trying to turn them against me as he saw that I won't give up on reverting his controversial edits. Explaning on the talk page dosen't work for now as no progression can be made with him so far, as he tries his best to put the name "CSKA - Sofia" as the name of the article, and make the one of PFC CSKA Sofia "closed", i.e. the club is bankrupted and no longer existing at all. He refuses to take anything about what I say about the trademark, and the restructure on how the overall controlling and operation body was kept during the restructure, but he declines that. If I leave him like this at 100% one week later the article about PFC Litex Lovech would be renamed to PFC CSKA - Sofia, with a large visible gap around the dash, and in it full of POV on how Grisha Ganchev was a criminal ganster, killing and threating people, etc. I think the current version reflects best the situation as we talked on the talk page of the article.--The TV Boy (talk · contribs) 05:00, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

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