User talk:Laveol/Archive Oct 2007

Source for Saint Clement
Здравей, добавих източник за произхода на Климент. Благодаря, че го издири &mdash; източникът е чудесен, защото нито е български, нито е съвременен, а ясно показва още навремето как се е разглеждал този въпрос. Можеш да погледнеш кода на страницата, за да разбереш как се добавят бележки под линия, и в бъдеще сам да го правиш :) Поздрави, Todor→Bozhinov 19:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Разбира се, винаги съм готов да помогна, ако се чудиш за нещо! Между другото, можеш да се запишеш и в уикипроект България, който служи за координация на всички, които работят по тази тема :) Todor→Bozhinov 20:03, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

OCS
Look further down on the Old Church Slavonic article: "Some scholars use these terms for tradition's sake but believe that Old Macedonian better reflects the language's basis in the dialect of Thessaloniki spoken by Cyril and Methodius. This name is unrelated to current ethnic and political polemics surrounding the Republic of Macedonia, and its use predates these issues." Schmalstieg and Nandris both mention the term in their handbooks of Old Church Slavonic. It is quite common in English-language scholarship. You can find these handbooks in any decent university library. If you do not have access to a decent university library, then don't argue with people who do. 82.181.205.224 11:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

bulgaro-huns
Not at all. Don't mind. Thanks. Chapultepec 13:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply
What sourced information did I remove?--Methodius 10:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply
You've obviously overlooked the link. See it well and you'll understand why it has to be there. It doesn't change the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spasete nha (talk • contribs) 22:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

Help on List of Bulgarian films
Вдъхнови се от решенията на подобни проблеми до момента :) Някои държави са оставили всичко в един списък, независимо колко дълъг: например List of French films, List of Spanish films. Други ги разделят по десетилетия, като List of Italian films (форматът е хубав, препоръчвам ти го), List of British films. При всяко положение гледай да не се получи прекалено кратък списък, ами ако се налага ги прави за две десетилетия или както прецениш, особено по-ранните. Todor→Bozhinov 14:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Нямам забележки :) Todor→Bozhinov 15:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ам, защо ти е пък да е в цветовете на знамето, ние тях си ги имаме вече по-горе в този шаблон... направи го по-стандартно, някакъв сив фон &mdash; тъкмо ще се чете по-добре. Todor→Bozhinov 16:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Your help on all the list of films would be very much apprecaited -please can you complete Blugaria 1960 -2007 in particular. I don't mind you delete the prexisiting table if you can complete it. Thanks -List of Romanian films is also very poor and these ar einmportant cinema lists . ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 22:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

List of Bulgarian films: 1950s
Could you double check the intro paragraph - I presume you meant to say Ditto for List of Bulgarian films: 1919-1949. SkierRMH 04:54, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * "For an alphabetical list of articles on Italian films see Category:Bulgarian films."
 * For an alphabetical list of articles on Bulgarian films see Category:Bulgarian films.

OK cool good work, But if you can wikify the years as e.g 1959 in film|1959 with a   -this way it links to themain pages for the years. Also remember the films wikipedia already has in the category. A Bulgarian user I am pals with created a few of them. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 18:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

PLease can you develop the List of Bulgarian film: 1960s and the others - the 1950s list looks great ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 14:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Dobervecher
Just a hello. ;-) NikoSilver 20:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks I hoped you wouldn't mind. My work on the Bulgarian films has been a little limited you should check out for the extent of the work!! Saludos! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 19:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I was going to take it out anyway - I wanted to see what I could do! Good luck with the studies anyway. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 16:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

hello
Hello brother. It's good to see other Bulgarians on wikipedia. I do not speak much Bulgarian, which part of Bulgaria are u from? Uuttyyrreess 20:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting!
Hi Laveol! Thanks a lot for that revert of vandalism. Daniel Šebesta (talk • contribs) 21:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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Калоян
Здрасти! Съгласен съм, че владетелите не трябва да имат имена на друг език освен на техните държави и това за Калоян е отвратително; трябва да направим нещо, да ги убедим че не са прави (румънците), може би трябва и Тодор да помогне. А засега съм написал името на Владислав I на български, тъй като е бил наш васал => свързан с нашата история; както казах на онзи Алекс, ако трябва ще добавя и на бесараб и дан... но пак е неприемливо, Калоян е велик цар и то Български а не някакъв мизерен местен владетел като влашкия. Освен това влашки не означава непременно румънски.

А пък за глупавия темплейт "former countries" се оказа че го има на Третата република във Франция, Кралство румъния, Обединено кралсво великобритания и Ирландия и всицки подобни. Тъй че не означава, че нашите царства са били други държави. Ако е така, то Франция съществува от 1959, а сърбия от 2006... --Gligan 13:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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THIS SOURCE SAYS HE IS AN ETHNIC MACEDONIAN (GLOBE AND MAIL NEWSPAPER) Uuttyyrreess 03:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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Румънската националистическа война за цар Калоян
Драги Laveol, лицето Alex:Dat в последното денонощие три пъти направи една и съща редакция, която според мен няма никакво отношение към историческата документация, свързана с цар Калоян. Имах дълъг разговор в лични съобщения с него и той призна, че името на Калоян на румънски няма документирана средновековна влахоезична/румъноезична форма по простата причина, че няма нито един документ на влашки/румънски от тази епоха. Всъщност във Влахия и Молдова до 17 век като основен писмен език е бил използван средновековният славянски или старобългарският. Той обаче настоява в англоезичната статия за цар Калоян да присъства форма на това име, документирана в румънския фолклор от ново време, което едва ли е пряко свързано с историческия персонаж на този средновековен владетел. Освен това той използва като етимологичен източник и... формата на името, използвана от модерната румънска историография! Поисках от него да обясни кога точно са били записани и публикувани тези фолклорни записи, тъй като такива по-ранни от 18 век няма, но той продължи да шикалкави без да признае, че дава името на владетел от 12 и 13 векове според фолклор, документиран най-вероятно в 19 или дори 20 век! Според мен това е спекулативен опит анахронично да се "румънизира" цар Калоян като статията за него се насити с възможно повече информация за имагинерна негова връзка с румънската национална история. Лицето Alex:Dat продължава да настоява, че теориите за влашки произход на Асеневата династия, отхвърлени от болшинството нерумънски изследователи, са доказателство за връзка с румънската етничност. В действителност не всички власи по презумпция може да бъдат определяни като румънци. Има исторически влашки общности, които не са участвали в създаването на румънската нация, например в момента в България живеят около 10,000 души, които се самоопределят като власи, и около 1,000 румънци, деклариращи се като отделен от първите етнос. Румънската нация е модерен конструкт, продукт на нейшън-билдинг, протекъл от 18 век насетне, етнически абсорбирал само част от балканските романоезични власи. Вследствие на предлаганото натъртване на влашко и румънско се създава илюзорното впечатление за паритет между влашко и българско във Второто българско царство, което е и целта на румънските националисти. Това не е обосновано нито езиково, нито относно политическата и етническа доктрина на тази безспорно българска държава, нито спрямо население и територии - по времето на Калоян в състава на държавата са Мизия, Тракия, по-голямата част от Македония, значителна част от днешна източна Сърбия и... неопределен точно в изворите дял от Влахия. Искам да попитам трябва ли да се търпи това положение и не бива ли това лице да бъде наказано за нарушение на правилото за три редакции в едно денонощие? Естествено, подобни опити не могат да променят историческата наука, нито да повлияят на съдържанието на справочници като Енциклопедия Британика, но компрометират Уикипедия. Статии като тези за Добруджа и Добротица са сериозно повлияни от същите шовинистични румънски концепции за дебългаризация на определени периоди и територии от балканското минало. Приеми моите поздрави! - Jackanapes 09:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Драги Laveol, омръзна ми да чета румънски наглости и реших да се погавря. Като толкова иска комшията румънско име - да го прочете заедно с обяснение за историческия му контекст:

In Romanian folklore tradition, recorded in modern times (which isn't connected with the concrete historical figure of this medieval ruler), and in modern Romanian historiography the name Kaloyan is known as Ioniţă Caloian. There isn't Romanian form of this name recorded during the Middle Ages because there isn't even a single document, written in Romanian language from this epoch.

Като ще е неадекветно, поне да е докрай. Поздрави! - Jackanapes 23:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

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I hear the woods
this is the first and last time im communicating with you. your text file that you want to sneak-in as a "source" along with the agendas that you obviously try to push behind it will not go through. Same for your acts of vandalism and most of all, hypocrisy (you warn me about the rules while you are breaking them constantly). I can agree that an audio file is not sufficient per se as a source, but its certainly better than nothing, at least cause its performed by internationaly acclaimed folklore institution (Tanec). Also, that questionable macedonian website that you are reffering to is removed long ago and is no longer a subject. Regarding the history of my edits, you didnt check them well, cause you would see im mostly involved with balkan folk/pop/rock music-related articles and not in political/ nationalist agenda-pushing like you. Regarding your great "concerns" about the song 'naming conventions', here are some examples for you, first lets begin with popular themes: Guantanamera (Girl from Guantanamo, Spanish title), La Bamba (song) (again spansih title), then national anthems: La Marseillaise (French title), Deutschlandlied (German title), Mila Rodino (Bulgarian title, its not "Dear Motherland"), then Eurovision songs: Insieme: 1992 (1990 winner, Italian title), Ein Bißchen Frieden (1982 winner, German title), Ne Partez Pas Sans Moi (1988 winner, French title), Molitva (2007 winner, Serbian title) and so on. The only exception I found so far among the song titles is the famous Brazilian song Girl from Ipanema, the article has an english title. The conversation is over.--Chajeshukarie 14:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Симпатичната статия
Хммм... трябва много да мислим откъде да започнем наистина... Това нещо трябва да се унищожи или най-малкото да се поправи хубаво. Действително такова движение за съжаление е имало, водено от промити мозъци; обаче според мен по-голямата част от населението е подкрепчло българската власт, което трябва да се отбележи. Резултата със сигурност не е "македонска" победа, защото нашите войски се изтеглят сами. Освен това "източникът" споменава Самуил като мак. цар и дори има нахалството да обяви братът на Борил, Стрез, за мак. владетел (вече и Асеневци май станаха македонци: ) => не трябва да му се има доверие.

Според мен това цялото е мак. пропаганда, като издигат борбата на комунистическите партизани до някаква грандиозна освободителна война. Май забравят, че в много случаи това означава борба срещу фашизма, а не срещу българската власт; по тази логика и борбата на партизаните в старите граници трябва да е "осв. война", макар да си е чист бунт (и пак според мен предателство).

Обаче за тези промени ще ни трябват източници, а откакто почнах работа не мога да отида до библиотеката, за да потърся. Ако библиотеката работи в събота, ще отида. Трябва обаче да се съгласуваме и да направим нещо по въпроса, защото неблагодарните ни сънародници на запад понякога ме изкарват извън релси. Във всички войни сме се били за тях, за тяхното освобождение... --Gligan 09:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Excuse my, coud you pleace get a pictures in Wikipedia's articles? I beg you to take one of following pictures and replace it in Macedonism - National Liberation War of Macedonia!  Meeting by German invasion in Vardar Banovina. or this one:  Meeting by Bulgarian annexation in Vardar Banovina. Thank you! Jingby 16:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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re. Metodija Andonov - Čento
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Battle of Pliska
Благодаря, така е по-добре. Ще ти бъда благодарен, ако редактираш този мой пръв опит за историческо писание (по-добре съм в математиката, физиката и биологията) също и за съдържание. Lantonov 10:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Вж. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Abuse_reports#User|203.59.82.217. Всички адреси там водят към Пърт.

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Bulgarian films
I'm quite disappointed you gave up on the Bulgarian film list. You were off to such a great start. It looks rather odd now that the pre 1960 is complete and 1960 to present is empty. I would be deeply grateful if you could have a go some time. All the best ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you?" Contribs 10:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Right I've started. List of Bulgarian films: 1960s. Two or three months past and you didn't do anything. It took me five minutes to start this page. I just wished there was one list that I could rely on somebody to do rather than always having to do it myself. Please feel free to add the Bulgarian and details. Hope you are well ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you?" Contribs 10:43, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

According to National Liberation War of Macedonia
Лавеоле, заключиха заради анонимни Фироми Uhrana и National Liberation War of Macedonia в неприятна ситуация! Ако можеш да направиш нещо ще съм ти благодарен !Jingby 16:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Frightner evading his ban
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History of the Macedonian language
Edit War!!! Jingby 18:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Проблем
Драги Laveol, в статията за Добруджа двама румънци водят война срещу информацията за българската история в региона. Трият реферирани сведения за наличие на български знаци по архитектурни паметвици, които румънската наука се опитва да представи за византиййски, откъсват епохата на Самуил от периода на Първото царство и го включват към Византийското владичество, не искат да се включи периода на Второто царство в името на раздел, не позволяват да се каже, че след 1878 всички български екзархийски църкви са били румънизирани с изключение на само две, в които се е служело на български, т. н. Опасявам се, че там се очертава националистическа редакторска война. Приеми поздравите ми, Jackanapes 01:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Jovano, Jovanke
I put Sarievski first as he was performing the song for a long time (this singer is not amongst us anymore) and far earlier than the performance made by Trifunov (it is pretty much new thing).MatriX 10:21, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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I've had to block you (24h) for your revert-warring on Aleksandar Donski. This article is protected by the rules of WP:BLP. You were repeatedly re-introducing poorly sourced negative POV material about a living person, about which there had been multiple prior complaints to Wikipedia, with related admin interventions and warnings.

I'll unblock you if you give me some confirmation you've understood what this is about and will not continue with this editing. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, actually I was reverting Frightner. NOt more and not less. I surely won't do it again, but I was under the impression he should be reverted. -- L a v e o l  T 11:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * So he really is invincible - too sad :( -- L a v e o l  T 11:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, actually, the 79.* anon (and "Ireland101") seem not to have been Frightner after all. And even if, I guess WP:BLP beats WP:BAN in such a case. But okay, I'll accept your explanation and unblock. Can you then please help keeping an eye on the article to keep it clean? It's a shame it was in this state for so long. Apparently the original guilty party was FunkyFly, as it now turns out, and a Greek anon who restored the junk after Swatjester removed it. -- About Frightner's invincibility, well, we'll see. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'll help. I might even clean it up a bit. No more reinstating of the previous POV though - understood. -- L a v e o l  T 20:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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Map
Well, first of all - are we sure that Simeon didn't rule those coastal areas to the southwest?

Second of all, Croatian Duke Trpimir acquired Bosnian territory up to the Drina (from Serbia?) - "King" Tomislav defeated Simeon's Army (his only major and complete defeat) at the Battle of the Bosnian Highlands, but the border moved back from Drina to Bosna. Before Bulgaria abolished Serbia in act in 924, Rascia was periodically vassalaged to Bulgaria since the late 9th century, which included the Bosnian plain between Drina and Bosna.

And lastly, Syrmia seems a bit too expanded westwards - wasn't that big. --PaxEquilibrium 13:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll have to check it up - but as far as I remember he might have ruled them for a short period. -- L a v e o l  T 14:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Well sure - Simeon invaded Croatia in 926, and the Battle of the Bosnian Highlands was on 27 May 927. --PaxEquilibrium 19:52, 19 October 2007 (UTC)