User talk:Lds/Archive3

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Question re: Dongtuna, Ahuinan
Hello. I noticed on the Dongtuna and Ahuinan articles that you moved them from "Dong Tuna" and "Ahui Nan" on the basis that "Dong" is not a surname (you provided no rationale for Ahuinan). CEDICT, for one, lists 董 as a surname, so can you provide any references to indicate that Dongtuna's "Dong" and Ahuinan's "Ahui" really aren't their surnames? Thanks. -Amake (talk) 02:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I can't provide any references. Both of them are fictional characters in the historical novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms. According to the story, they're Nanman people, a non Han Chinese ethnic group. The Chinese surnames that I was referring to are those of Han Chinese people and Sinicized Chinese ethnic groups. The Nanman of that time do not belong to either of these two. I believe that "Ahuinan" and "Dongtuna" are transcribed Nanman names in the Chinese language. The same applies for the other Nanman characters in the novel, such as Wutugu, Mangyachang etc. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 02:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Zhang Yi
Hi, I'm wondering why you made this move? I don't think there are other strategists in the disambig.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, there're a number of Zhang Yis in Chinese history, so I thought it'd be good to distinguish them in their respective article titles by using the period that they lived in. Exceptions would be the three Zhang Yis from the Three Kingdoms period, and the present day triathlete. I think the term "strategist" is too broad and generic. They're military strategists, political strategists, business strategists etc. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 02:12, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * From WP:QUALIFIER: 'The disambiguator is usually a noun indicating what the person is noted for being.'. Also, you added the other people tag, but the title has a clear disambiguator (WP:NAMB) so why is it necessary?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 04:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I find it odd if Zhang Yi (Warring States Period) is differentiated from the other four historical Zhang Yis by his occupation. And again, I think "strategist" is too broad. I also noticed that on Chinese Wikipedia, historical figures with the same names are usually differentiated by the period they lived in. I don't object to moving the page back to Zhang Yi (strategist), but still, I hope you can take my points into consideration.
 * Your second point makes sense, but I'll still keep the other people tag as a means of de-orphaning the dab page. The tag is useful because it also helps to increase awareness about similarly named articles (or people, in this case). Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 06:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If 'strategist' is too broad, maybe 'military strategist' would be better. IMO it's more important to comply with WP norms than to remove ambiguity, since the purpose of disambiguators is to disambiguate and the simplest way of disambiguating should be employed.
 * Please note that disambiguation pages can be orphaned (WP:ORPH). I agree that the tag may help to increase awareness about similarly named articles, but please consider this: would a person looking for warring states info care about the three kingdoms? Probably not. Also, people who come looking for this Zhang Yi and are unfamiliar to WP would likely type in 'Zhang Yi' in the search box, and that would lead to the disambig. Since we should put readers first, I believe any hatnotes that cannot aid the reader should be removed.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright then. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 17:11, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * By the way, I plan to expand Gaozu of Later Jin soon. You seem to be brilliant at Chinese history, so would you mind looking over it when I'm done? Or maybe even collaborate on the expansion.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 04:16, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your compliment and invitation. I've a very keen interest in Chinese history, but the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms Period is not one of my "specialties". I don't mind looking over the article if I've time. Keep up the good work! Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 06:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Empress Zhang's death year
Do you have a source for it? Nothing I have read so far suggests that she died at the time that her family was executed. --Nlu (talk) 16:23, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, I added the death year after checking out Chinese Wikipedia. You can remove it if you think it's wrong. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 16:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, I will remove it (apologies); I don't think there's enough reliable information here to indicate that she died that year.  --Nlu (talk) 16:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm currently working on User:Lonelydarksky/Sandbox/List of people of the Three Kingdoms as well. I'm planning to replace the current one with it when I'm done. What do you think? Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 16:49, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks very nice. Although I must say, I am pessimistic about list articles for the most part, because they tend to degenerate over time, but hopefully this will remain good.  --Nlu (talk) 16:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that it has a lot of room for improvement. I still haven't thought about what should be added in the description column. There's also a lot of misleading information about birth and death years and present-day locations of ancestral homes on the Internet. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 16:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

List of people of the Three Kingdoms
Hi there. I'm sorry to bother you, but just out of curiosity, why did you remove Zhai Yuan from Cao Wei's list? Is he under another name already or something? --Turner1987 (talk) 21:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, his name was written wrongly in Chinese as 翟淵. It should be 翟元 instead. No wonder I couldn't find any 翟淵 from the Three Kingdoms period elsewhere. I've added back the correct name. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 03:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for improving the template its much better. Dwanyewest (talk) 03:47, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Templates help
I appreciated your help with the previous template can you help with this template Template:Flipper Franchise. Dwanyewest (talk) 08:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I haven't watched any of the Flipper movies or TV series. I made some minor changes to the template, hope you find them useful. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 09:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Again an improvement on what I have done thank you. Dwanyewest (talk) 09:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 09:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Bryan Chan for deletion
The article Bryan Chan is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bryan Chan until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. J04n(talk page) 20:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

You might be amused
It seems only fitting that a few weeks before my visit to China I get an email from the Emperor of China - User:Himyaosui. He seems upset that people with less knowledge than he has are having more influence on deletions. Dougweller (talk) 19:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's indeed amusing. Egypt's modern pharaoh was overthrown just recently, and now I hear of a self-proclaimed modern Chinese emperor. I wonder if he's related in any way to HIM Yongle the Great. Yongle's been quiet for some time. :) Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * One question, what about the people listed on this page? Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think there are some BLP problems here. I've started Articles for deletion/Hengkai. I think the red-linked names should be removed as there are no sources, and I'm similarly concerned with some of the names at Aisin Gioro. Dougweller (talk) 14:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Is Zhu Yunzhong notable enough for an article? I can't find a source saying he is the Ming heir. Dougweller (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a ref on Zhu Yunzhong that says he's a descendant of the Hongwu Emperor. It's an article from TIME, so I think it should be reliable. As for Hengkai, I think you can give the article's creator some time to find sources. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Henkai was created almost 4 years ago, and its creator hardly ever edits anymore. As for Zhu Yunzhong, I can't find anything that says he is the Ming heir, although he is a descendant of the Hongwu emperor I agree. Is every descendant notable? But we'd need a RS to say he was the Ming heir. Dougweller (talk) 18:53, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Fictional people from the 3K
Should the fictional characters from the 3K era get List of fictional people of the Three Kingdoms in their see also sections instead of List of people of the Three Kingdoms?--Turner1987 (talk) 18:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes. I think it's good to include both lists in the see also sections instead of only the fictional one. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm on it. --Turner1987 (talk) 05:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Clan of Zhu
New article created mainly by copying other articles - without attribution, so copyvio problem but I'm also concerned about the sources. Not enough though to work on it myself right now I'm afraid. What do you think? Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:34, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:RED and other preferences
These are mostly a preference thing, but I prefer leaving the red links in articles so that new articles can be more easily created, and can reduce the linking workload when they do get created. I also prefer to leave Chinese names in full since the commonness of Chinese surnames can sometimes confuse readers. Thanks for hearing me out. _dk (talk) 17:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * As you wish. I'll revert some of my edits. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 17:15, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. On a more casual note, I'll soon be back from my very long vacation and I hope to be of assistance soon! _dk (talk) 17:28, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hope to see you again soon. Enjoy your vacation. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 17:30, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Song Dynasty
Please see the talk page for Song Dynasty-- some more information on the infobox removal is requested. siafu (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Service award level
 There has been a major revision of the the Service Awards: the edit requirements for the higher levels have been greatly reduced, to make them reasonably attainable. Because of this, your Service Award level has been changed, and you are now eligible for a higher level. I have taken the liberty of updating your award on your user page.

Herostratus (talk) 08:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the update. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:36, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

After almost 2 months of procrastination
I've finally finished expanding Emperor Gaozu of Later Jin. I'll appreciate if you could take a look at it. Thanks  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:53, 27 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks good, but don't you think something is missing? Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 15:09, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Could you help translate the names and add the era name if possible? Also, do you think the image from this source can be used for fair use (or is it good for the Commons because it's expired)? Again, thanks!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 15:33, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Done with the translations. I think that's the best I can do for now. Not sure about the image. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 16:34, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It looks great. Would you mind translating the bits of Chinese I left on the article as well? Again, thanks  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 16:15, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not easy to translate those Chinese ranks, appointments and titles. I referred to this page about translations of Han Dynasty titles, even though it's not relevant to the Five Dynasties Period. I've translated the Chinese references. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks a lot better now. Thanks!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:39, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

No Qian Nu You Hun
Hi Lonelydarksky,

In Lianzhai Zhiyi, there is no story called Qian Nu You Hun. There is however a piece that is usually entitled 聂小倩. See http://baike.baidu.com/view/47262.htm, for instance. The original piece I think is titleless. 220.255.1.22 (talk) 17:36, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Corrected. Thanks for notifying me. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Family
Hey there! I think you added a bit to Gan Ning's article, on his family, listing Gan Mao, Gan Zhuo, Gan Chang, etc as relatives. They all have the same surname but I can't find any indication that they were related, much less descendants of one another. Can you give me a source please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GuoBia (talk • contribs) 05:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I translated the family section from Chinese Wikipedia. You're free to revert those changes if you disagree. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 07:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Ouch. Major warning: the Chinese wikipedia is even more inaccurate about TK stuff than the English one! Irony, I know. But people keep on trying to put random stuff and folk legends as fact. Weird, isn't it?


 * It's both tragic and ironic to learn that Chinese Wikipedia is even more inaccurate on Three Kingdoms articles than the English one. Actually, some of the English articles used to be translated from Chinese Wikipedia, or directly copied and pasted from unreliable websites such as kongming.net. It was due to the efforts of User:EkmanLi and others that the quality of Three Kingdoms articles has improved by a lot. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 16:13, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

The Return of the Condor Heroes (Singaporean TV series)
I've added a soundtrack sextion of The Return of the Condor Heroes (Singaporean TV series) but it needs translation. Hope you don't mind.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 18:00, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

清宫专家
- new topics, but is this YtG? Dougweller (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reporting this - still a sock, and the edit I just checked looked like vandalism, deleting a link to Commons. Dougweller (talk) 08:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

template:infobox chinese-language singer and actor
Hello friend! I would like to add Asian Television Award, Shanghai Television Festival and New York Television Festival to the template:infobox chinese-language singer and actor as the awards. I've tried but unfortunately failed. Could you please kindly help me? Thanks a lot! --Naiveandsilly (talk) 10:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I'm not sure about how to do that. You may wish to check out Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or approach somebody else for assistance. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 10:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Images for The Legend of the Condor Heroes 1988 and 2008
Hi, I've added images on the The Legend of the Condor Heroes (1988 TV series) and The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2008 TV series). Hope that they are okay. --NeoBatfreak (talk) 01:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I've looked through. The logos and the couple's picture in The Legend of the Condor Heroes (1988 TV series) don't seem to go well together. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 09:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I've separated the logos from the couple's picture. Feel free to look.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

禮尚往來
Hi, I haven't created articles in the longest time and I just finished one! Since you've been so kind as to show me your final drafts I thought I should ask you to look over my new Three Kingdoms articles. Here it is, Battle of Liyang, please don't hesitate to point out any problems you see =D (and yes, the red links will turn blue in the near future) _dk (talk) 04:47, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks quite detailed. It'd be good if you can include the original Chinese text from SGZ (in the form of a footnote or ref) for the quote by Guo Jia. Keep up the good work and let me know if you need any help on the four red links. :) Oh yes, and I think you might be interested in taking a look at this list. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 05:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, added the Chinese for the quote. For that list...whoa, are you planning to have an article for all those? _dk (talk) 05:50, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Apparently, de Crespigny didn't translate the quote fully, but never mind. And for that list, I don't think it's possible to create an article for every single one, but we'll keep that for reference. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 05:58, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Battle of Ye is finished, any comments? =D _dk (talk) 06:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks good. I'll make some minor changes. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 09:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I realized that the last two articles I wrote didn't have a fiction section about what went on in the novel, do you think a section like that is necessary, and would you like to write it? _dk (talk) 21:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If I didn't remember wrongly, Romance of the Three Kingdoms only mentioned those battles briefly. I'll check those chapters again. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 06:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Here they are: Chapter 32 and Chapter 33. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 06:22, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

The Deer and the Cauldron
I've added a little information and cited little info a the new movie The Deer and the Cauldron, which reunites The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2008 TV series) stars Hu Ge and Cecilia Liu


 * Ok. Don't you think it seems a bit odd for Liu to act as the Russian queen? Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 06:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I admit, it is odd. But who knows?  These days, where I'm from (United States), make-up artists in Hollywood are very good these days, and perhaps the same on the mainland as well. I only read the article, but I've never read the novel before.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:08, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've also added production companies' on the television series as well.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:30, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you going to create an article of the movie right now, despite it still filming? By the way, do you have the soundtrack of Chinese Paladin? Any chance you can rip your CD's tracks and send them to me, because it is out of print right now?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not going to create an article for the movie yet, let's wait until more information about it is released. Sorry, I don't have the Chinese Paladin soundtrack. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yet? So you going to make both English and CHinese versions once more info is avaliable?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 16:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably yes. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 17:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just added the name of who's going to play Kangxi. Thought you might want to know.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:53, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for informing me. Actually, you don't need to post messages here to notify me about new changes you've made. I've added most, if not all, of the Jin Yong wuxia related articles to my watchlist. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 04:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't believe that they cast Nicky Wu as a Manchu emperor again, since he was just finished playing Yongzhen in the television series Startling by Each Step with Cecilia Liu. I thought Wu would move on later. To tell you the truth, I much rather Liu works with Yuan Hong, they have much better chemistry since The Legend of the Condor Heroes and A Weaver on the Horizon,- and now they work together again in this movie?  Cecilia works with Hu Ge as a couple, yeah, I can see that, since I saw a music video they made together a year ago.-NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've added a title to the upcoming film, which needs to be translate.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Trailer and info, and more info. The trailer suggests that the movie is a prequel to the television series Startling by Each Step.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:55, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Book covers
I see that you resized the images I've added on each of the Condor Trilogy novels. I also added them on the general section as well, feel free to take a look. If you think these images can add to the Chinese versions of the articles, feel free to use them too.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:55, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Chinese Paladin
Hey, you told me that you don't have Chinese Paladin TV soundtrack. Well, you can download all the songs from this link Megaupload.com: Chinese Paladin (TV soundtrack). Today, I gone to http://mp3.sogou.com/ to compile all the songs as the complete soundtrack according to what we put of Wikipedia and yesasia.com--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)


 * ALso, here the Chinese Paladin 3 soundtrack--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:57, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

The Young Warriors

and The Little Fairy

Hope you enjoy these soundtracks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:03, 23 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 15:30, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. Since these soundtracks are out of prints, I've downloaded them and burn them into CDs, and put put them togethers with the TV series' DVDs. I also have a CD labal designs allowing me to use the TV series' promotional arts (posters, CD covers, photos etc.) to make the soundtrack labels. Let me know if you enounters problems of trying  to extracting these files.  Al the files of the soundtracks are zipped, I don't know about your computer system, but you may need to install a compressing and extracting software--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:05, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

A Weaver on the Horizon
Hi, Lonelydarksky. Thanks for the minor edits of the articles I've made. Can you help me a little further with A Weaver on the Horizon article, please? I made a few more today on the summary, and nor sure I made a right grammatical correction. --NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm busy cleaning up other film and television articles now. I'll edit the article later. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 07:54, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Also, you like the soundtracks I've sent you?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:57, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 08:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * So now you have two of the Chinese Paladin TV soundtracks, and probably by now burned them to CD and place them with your DVDs as I did. I'm guessing you are a fan, right?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Not quite. I saved the tracks in my computer. I played Chinese Paladin and enjoyed it even though I didn't complete the game. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 08:16, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, so you didn't watched the TV shows?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've watched season 1 only so far. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 08:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, again thanks for helping me edit my articles. Good night.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:28, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks--NeoBatfreak (talk) 16:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Singapore
Hi there. Some Singaporean Wikipedians have initiated discussion about a local charter for some time. If you are interested in participating or would like to take a look, you can visit Wikimedia Singapore. Regards--Ben.MQ (talk) 13:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The Little Fairy
I've added another detail on The Litte Fairy. Can you help me proofread it, please? --NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Jedi Knight level list
I've reverted your edit to Jedi Academy to include the level list and I wanted to let you know why. I'm using the Video games article guidelines, specifically the inappropriate content list. Thanks --Bill (talk 19:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Editing 'Yung Quyun" article
I am the person who first posted the "Yeung Kui Wan (Yang Quyun)" article, which you transferred to 'Yang Quyun'.

While I applaud you in much that you have done to improve it, I query why did you cut out all the text which covers the story after the death of Yang Quyun:


 * The fact that his memorial is un-named - with just a number, at his request
 * The attempt to get his remains reburied along with those of other revolutionists
 * The fascinating insight that Chiang Kai-shek may well have offered a large sum for the photo(s) showing Sun Yat-sen in a lower position than Yang Quyun
 * The campaign by his nephew for recognition of the role that Yang Quyun played in early revolution.

Rather than my simply putting these sections back in only for you to delete them, can we find a solution to having these 'aspects' posted somewhere/somehow on Wikipedia. I ask this out of respect for your obvious erudition. Duncan.france (talk)


 * Thank you for your comments on my editing. When I first saw the page as it was on 10 July 2011, I was quite taken aback by its untidy state. I decided to clean it up (as I usually do to untidy articles that are of interest to me), using Chinese Wikipedia as a basic reference. In the process, I inadvertently eliminated certain details, which include those you've listed above. Of course, you're free to make any changes to the article at any time you wish. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 07:29, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

The Deer & The Cauldron
Hey. Here's a music video I think you might enjoy, of promoting Hu Ge's The Deer & the Cauldron. Also, I made a mistake, it is not a theatrical movie, but a online film featuring cast and crew members of the two tv shows Startling by Each Step and The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2008 TV series), trying to pomote both series with this online movie. Also, I hope you like the new version of the DVD cover of The Return of the Condor Heroes (2006 TV series) -NeoBatfreak (talk) 23:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Two more songs on The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2003 TV series)
I've added two more songs featured in The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2003 TV series). Hope you like it.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Women Generals of the Yangs
I removed two of the Women Generals of the Yangs related tv serie titles from Yang Jia Jiang and placed them to the other article. Feel free to take a look.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Merged with Yang Jia Jiang. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 09:13, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Hong Kong meetup
You're invited to the next Hong Kong meetup on 19 August in Think Cafe, Causeway Bay. Please sign up to the meetup on the meta meetup page. Hope to see you there! Deryck C. 16:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Fengshen Yanyi / Fengshen Bang
I don't necessary object to the name Fengshen Bang, and I know it is a common name, and most television adaptations use this name, but the article is about "a book", and most printed editions use the name Fengshen Yanyi, and searching google books also shows this. Thus I think it is a far more suitable title for an article about a book. It would be wrong to rename a book's title to its colloquial version, and not its printed name.--Sevilledade (talk) 09:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)


 * You've a point there about Fengshen Yanyi being the official title, but I'm afraid WP:COMMONNAME overrides that. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 10:15, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain template
Shouldn't The Book and the Sword be part of the new template? I mean, chronologically, it is a first part of the next two books.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:08, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No, the link between The Book and the Sword and the Flying Fox novels isn't that straightforward. We can't say they're linked just because characters from one novel appear in another. If we go by the same reasoning, shouldn't we say that Sword Stained with Royal Blood and The Deer and the Cauldron are linked? I prefer to keep the The Book and the Sword and Flying Fox templates separate from each other. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

催雲公主
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.minkuan.org.tw/index.php/works/performance/105-drama2&hl=en&strip=1--NeoBatfreak (talk) 17:21, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Very well, you can add back the removed content, but don't forget to include the source as well. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 18:33, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2008 TV series)
Sorry of uploading a new DVD cover of The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2008 TV series) from Tai Seng over what you originally downloaded. It just that someone took yours and put it one a Vietnamese version, and I feels to differntiate the pages, I've put the Tai Seng version.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 01:51, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's fine. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 05:10, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Category:Television series set in the Yuan Dynasty
Hi, I've created the Category:Television series set in the Yuan Dynasty, and if you got some televsion series that can be added to it, feel free to do so.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:48, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Startling by Each Step OST
Startling by Each Step (步步驚心) OST Five tracks, including a singing debut of Cecilia Liu.Can you please also check some of the new details I've made on the article as well? Thanks --NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:04, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:30, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Renaming 'Yang Quyun' article
As the main editor of the above article, I am asking your advice re. how to change Yang Quyun's name (and consequently the article) to 'Yeung Kui-wan'.

I have been approached very strongly by Yeung's nephew, Yeung Hing-on, who asked me to get Yeung Kui-wan (Yang Quyun)'s name better known. His position is that Yeung Kui-wan's name reflects his South China origin. I can understand his sensibility in that all his family is known as 'Yeung' and the wholesale transformation of this into 'Yang' is really cultural piracy! I can also quote that Sun Yat-sen is known by that name, not by 'Sun Zhong-shan' nor by 'Sun Wen'.

I have already prepared a replacement article wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Duncan.france/sandbox which will have a section on Names. I have also prepared corrections for the relevant parts of the Sun Yat-sen, Chiang Kai-shek, and Furen Literary Society articles.

As a Redirect already exists for Yeung Kui-wan, please advise how I can change that to the full-fledged 'Yeung Kui Wan' article. I will then convert the 'Yang Quyun' article to a Redirect to the new 'Yeung Kui-wan' article. It would be great if you would advise me soon as I am meeting with Yeung Kui-wan's nephew very soon. Duncan.france (talk) 20:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Would you like me to help you with the move instead? I've no objections to using "Yeung Kui-wan" as the article's title, but it would be great if you can produce some evidence on Yeung Hing-on's preference in using "Yeung Kui-wan".   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:08, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Evidence for Yeung Kui-wan descendent preferring that spelling
I have a couple of e-mails from descendents of Yeung Kui-wan which underline the preference for the usage of that romanisation.

The text of a old e-mail is as follows:
 * On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Adrian Yeung [brother of Yeung Hing-on] 
 * > wrote:
 * > Dear Duncan,
 * > My brother remind me that the corrected name for Yang should be Yeung
 * > Kui-wan same as Prof. Luo Hui advised. see below:
 * > The details to be filled in in your article:
 * > 1. Yang's Wade-Giles spelling: Yeung Kui-wan
 * > The main reason is that you can chase after
 * > from history with original name, hope you can change it back
 * > Regards / Adrian
 * > from history with original name, hope you can change it back
 * > Regards / Adrian

The last one (see below) includes an image of a memo to Tse Tsan-tai (謝纘泰; pinyin: Xie Zuantai), the treasurer of the Furen Literary Society, from Yeung Kui-wan using the 'Yeung Kui-wan' spelling.


 * >2011/9/10 Adrian Yeung 
 * >Dear Duncan,
 * >1, please see photo 1 showing Yeung 's letter to Tse with his own signature by Yeung kui-wan
 * >2, The other two enclosed South China Morning Post for your update reference showing SCMP using same original name
 * >   Adrian
 * > 主題︰ 寫給謝纘泰信中的簽名


 * > 今傳上附件證明楊衢雲的英文名寫法，其中最重要的證明是他寫給謝纘泰信中的簽名. 南華早報已用他簽名的串法.

As you can see from the above, Yeung's descendents' position is really that the spelling of his name should respect historic usage (rather than avoiding "cultural piracy". That was my spin...).

Hope that this is sufficient to convince you that the spelling change should hold. If so, I will be grateful for your help in carrying out the 'Name of article change' Duncan.france (talk) 07:10, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please copy the evidence you've provided above to the article, or maybe the talk page. I've renamed the article as per your request, and made some minor changes as well. There are certain parts that still need citations though.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 08:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

星 (Star) or (精) (Jing) ?
Hi Lonelydarksky, I believe it is best that I leave a message here rather than keep changing what each thinks is correct.

You stick to your 吸星大法, despite that it does not correlate to the explanation that follows, which you consistently ignore, because you can't sweep it under the carpet explicitly. I can see that the article is mainly written by you, so understandably you have an attachment to its integrity as you see it. However, one should not be chained to a single printed word as gospel. Reading the novel for its meaning, not for it misspelled printed words. It may be inconsequential to Western readers of Wiki as an obscure snippet of Chinese's mysticism, but what I am trying here is to promote a better understanding of a piece of Chinese's concept. As a Chinese as you said, you should be intimately familiar with the concept of Jing 精. How does one "sucking up star" has meaning in this (fictional) martial arts context? A westerner who read your word will say:" Wow! the Chinese martial artists who practice 吸星大法 are awesome! They sucking up the stars in the sky, and their opponents mysteriously drained of energy!" (rigorous head scratching follows). Don't you agree? I leave it to you, including consultation with 查良, to know what HE meant. I already knew. otherwise, all I can do is to shake my head in your obvious stubbornness to portrait the true meaning of his creation, and misled Wiki readers..no harm done in the real world, right? Who cares what Westerners may learn, right?.

I rest my case. Life is short, but the years are long! (talk) 18:33, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm relieved to see that you've agreed to back out from what appears to be an edit war between the two of us. I'm afraid I must disappoint you because I'm not familiar with the concept of Jing (精), or Qi, which I think is a more accurate term that suits your definition of Jing. I believe every person with a rational mind who reads that part on 吸星大法 in the article would not simply just read the name of that skill and come to a conclusion without reading the accompanying explanation. As I've said earlier, 吸星大法 is just a name for that skill. I don't see any point in making a big fuss out of it just because the name doesn't fit the description of how the skill is used. Besides, the description does not say anything about the practitioner using the skill to suck up stars in the sky. Yes, of course, there's no harm done in the real world. After all, 吸星大法 is probably just an additional piece of knowledge for fans of wuxia novels. If any Westerner does attempt to use 吸星大法 in real life after reading the article, then he or she may need to visit a psychiatrist.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 19:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to barge in like this, I couldn't help but notice the discussion about "吸星大法", mayhaps I could interest 两位大侠 to read up on the Chinese Wikipedia article for zh:吸星大法? 再见了，我飘. . . -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 19:23, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Dave! This isn't the first time you appeared out of nowhere on my talk page, am I right? Is my talk page on your watchlist or something? Thanks for your comment anyway. Yes, I know how 吸星大法 works in 笑傲江湖. The whole issue started at Linghu Chong, when a certain (skeptical) editor insisted on changing text directly quoted from a novel that has been published since the 1960s so as to cater to the alleged ignorance of Western readers.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 04:13, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow! I really didn't know that skeptics could actually read novels?!? BTW, I have never, ever heard of “吸精大法” (but I've heard of “吸金大法”！), apart from those I've heard about from my firends who went (starlight... starbright...) to Taiwan. According to the actual sources, the whole process takes place in the middle of nowhere, in a small van with mattressess placed inside and directly involving a woman and a man in... whoops! Got carried away there but you get the picture, I think. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 13:01, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * When I first saw the change from 吸星大法 to 吸精大法 I thought it was a deliberate error, because 吸精, well, translates to "sucking 精". And where does a man's 精 come from? I believe you know what I mean. It's a pity that I don't have a chance to go for ex starlight. Yeah, I heard a lot of stories from the regulars about the xmms there.    Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:26, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, there are only a few others I can think of besides that obvious one, examples like 味精、鸡精、糖精，奶精、咖啡精 or maybe/perhaps 狐狸精？ O(∩_∩)O哈哈哈. . . Cheers~!  -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 16:56, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Mishaps at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 September 1
Some of the redirects created by User:Sinosphere that you added on September 1 to RfD did not come through on the discussion page, because they were somehow overwritten by subsequent additions (see, e.g., this diff). As far as I saw this concerns the following pages: Additionally, it seems that you never actually listed 中华文化, which I've now proposed for speedy deletion. --Lambiam 09:50, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * 中式餐桌禮儀
 * 寧夏枸杞
 * 梁静茹
 * 郭令燦


 * Thanks for informing me. So what's going to happen to these redirects?   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 09:54, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Nothing, unless someone effectively puts them up for deletion. FYI, speedy deletion of 中华文化 was declined for reasons I don't understand – I would think that all redirects to Culture of China have materially the same content. --Lambiam 18:17, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Quite so, as we can see here.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 18:49, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Message from User:NNU-10-03100303
Hi guy! Why did you just replaced my translation of Song of strong wind? I do aprreciate your work to improve my idea,but I don't think your translation is better than me and also I find some mistakes in it. Do you really get the real meaning of the poem?


 * Greetings to you, friend. It appears that you're new to Wikipedia, so I assume you're not familiar with WP:MOS. Here's the reasons why I changed your edit. First, you inserted information about the poem as a subsection under "Reign", which I don't agree with. It should be a section by itself, just like Xiang Yu's Song of Gaixia. Second, the source you provided (http://www.guoxue.com/art/ss000/hvsc001/dfg005.htm) is in Chinese, which gives me an impression that you translated the text yourself. Although it is not wrong for editors to translate text from a non-English source to a page on English Wikipedia, there is a possibility that other editors may disagree with the translation and this results in some form of dispute. Third, your translation doesn't seem grammatically correct, even though there are Chinese translations on Wikipedia that face this problem as well, but are ignored or accepted. Returning to hometown while my power covers the way sounds weird, because it's not possible for power to cover the way, and returning to hometown is missing a "my" (should be returning to my hometown instead). As for How can I make the vigorous men to guard the four frontiers all obey?, I'd prefer it to be something like How can I make the vigorous men who guard the four frontiers all obey?. Yes, I do understand the meaning of the song. Can you point out the mistakes you find in my translation? One more thing, as User:Wctaiwan had pointed out in the edit summary, a published, citable translation would solve the problem. Perhaps you'd like to find one? We'll then stick to it. I'll do it.  Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:44, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Who's Wanyan Ping's father?
If she's a Jin royal family descendant, which makes her related to Wanyan Honglie, either as a niece or grandniece. I look at the books and can't find anything about it. Do you know?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:17, 8 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've no idea. You can direct the question to Jin Yong himself.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 03:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

How to contact him?--NeoBatfreak (talk) 17:18, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * No idea. What? You're serious about contacting him? LOL   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 02:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Not really. Have no idea, even if I write through his publishers, no guarantee he'll reply. I've wrote to mystery novelist Andrew Vachess before years ago, and nothing happen.

Also, how to translate 王公公 to English? --NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:29, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * How about Eunuch Wang?   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 11:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks--NeoBatfreak (talk) 16:45, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Headache time...

 * ... FYI, was back briefly but has been blocked (per checkuser confirmation) after I got suspicious of his two latest sock (1.  & 2. ), even though I had no idea it was actually him. On another note, I think it's a curse that my nose is becoming too sensitive to these smelly socks, honestly I'm getting headaches very easily these days~!  So, if you don't mind, could I ask you to help in reverting all his nonsense, please? Thanks and best. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 08:26, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * OMG, it's really a BIG problem. This guy has made tons of edits on dozens (maybe hundreds) of different pages, it won't be an easy task to revert everything. I wonder if he's connected in any way to Yongle the Great (a regular on SPI who hasn't been active for a very long time)? I'll see what I can do.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 11:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually I don't see any major fault with his edits, except that I disapprove of his unnecessary linking of Chinese characters and creation of Chinese language redirects.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 11:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * BINGO~! Reverting his nonsense will help add to your edit count but as for Yongle and Calvin, I have no idea if they might be linked in any way. Maybe you could speak to the checkuser/blocking Admin instead? TBH, when I was asking Tiptoety about the potential problem, never did I expect it to be so big. Had to take an aspirin to sooth my throbbing headache! Looking at his nonsensical edits again gives me a bigger headache, hence my approaching you for help. Lastly, I can never understand why these clowns like to waste our time in doing these nonsense. Good luck with the reverting, I'm taking a short break until tomorrow. Cheers~! -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:26, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll try to do it over the weekend. I recently came back from abroad and don't want to immediately jump into doing this tedious job.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 11:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Take your time, I'm counting on you. -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adaptations of Fengshen Bang
Category:Adaptations of Fengshen Bang, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adaptations of Water Margin
Category:Adaptations of Water Margin, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 20:36, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adaptations of works by Gu Long
Category:Adaptations of works by Gu Long, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 14:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adaptations of works by Huang Yi
Category:Adaptations of works by Huang Yi, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 14:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adaptations of works by Liang Yusheng
Category:Adaptations of works by Liang Yusheng, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adaptations of works by Wen Ruian
Category:Adaptations of works by Wen Ruian, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 15:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Redirects for Discussion
Can you provide translations for any of the articles that you just listed on RfD? I think that would be helpful! It's hard to discuss their appropriateness when I don't know what the redirect says. — m a k o ๛  17:22, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Isn't it obvious that these redirects are the titles of their respective target articles in Chinese and Korean? The blocked user has a habit of creating such redirects, which I think are highly unlikely to be entered into the search toolbar on English Wikipedia.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 17:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

New catagory
Hi,

I created Category:The Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber. Feel free to use it. Also, can you help me on the new template Chinese version of the Condor Trilogy? --NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

zh:Template:射鵰三部曲


 * Looks fine to me.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 05:21, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:00, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've reverted your additions to the template on the backgrounds of the novels. The novels are fiction anyway and shouldn't be linked too much to historical facts, as this may mislead readers.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 07:15, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

The Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber (1984 TV series)
I've created a page for The Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber (1984 TV series), but in need of translation. I would try to do it my self, but I have a schedule conflicts. Hope you can do it.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the translate. Here's more information of the show from this link, and from what I read, TTV is going to reair the show.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:56, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Xuanyuan Jian: The Scar in the Sky and The Fairies of Liaozhai
I've made pagea for the upcoming 2012 Chinese TV series Xuanyuan Jian: The Scar in the Sky and The Fairies of Liaozhai. Feel free to check it out.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 22:59, 4 November 2011 (UTC) Thanks--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:RED
Re: Red links are good. Unless you have grounds to believe those persons are not notable (and actors, composers and producers usually are), they should be restored (which I did). Please don't remove red links because they are red. Red is good. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 16:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Chinese Paladin and Chinese Paladin 3
Well, aren't both series have antagonists who are so powerful that nearly destroyed the world? It kinda reminds me of the American TV series Buffy the Vampire Slayer.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:58, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Apocalyptic fiction is under the broader category of science fiction. Works in this genre usually go along the lines of something scientific that causes the end of the world, things like natural disasters, nuclear war, alien attack, zombie holocaust etc. Chinese Paladin is more related to mythology, fantasy and wuxia rather than science fiction, therefore it does not belong to apocalyptic fiction. Anything that has something to do with the end of the world does not necessarily falls under this genre.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 07:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Category:Feminist television series
Hi. I've created a new catagory Category:Feminist television series. If you have some television series you know have feminism theme, please feel free to contributes.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Startling by Each Step
Hi, someone (not me, because I have not watch all the episodes due to I haven't got the DVDs), has written a plot summary of Startling by Each Step. However, it is too long, full of grammer errors, and so on. Think you can shorten it out and makes it more concised? Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I haven't watched it either. Why don't you start trimming it first? I feel that about half of its current length should do fine.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll try, if I can stop the fans from adding more. From what I read, they have serious problems with grammer than me. When I first seeing it, I got an impression that they use their knowledge from the novel than from the TV show, since most of it reported to be faithful to the original story by Tong Hua excepts the ending. I just wish that they put it on the novel's page instead.  At least I didn't put the exact details of how Huang Qiao'er decides to accepts her widowhood after her husband's death or how Lin Mufei would move and find love with Zhao Jiayi on A Weaver on the Horizon.    I'm gonna print it and figure out how to generalize the summary this weekend. I'll try to made it five paragrahs long as I did with A Weaver on the Horizon.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:28, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I've shorten it out. Hopefully no one will be added more unnecesary details.  Can you also do some grammer check for me, please? --NeoBatfreak (talk) 13:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm busy this week. Will look at it later.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 15:05, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Qing dynasty princes
I appreciate the initiative you've been taking in moving the article names - I have wanted to do it myself for quite a while. But I do want to invite you to take part in the discussion that I began here on Qing Dynasty titles so we can all reach some sort of stable consensus on this matter. Colipon+ (Talk) 01:00, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

New frontlines in the war against erroneous and unsourced birth and death years
Hi Lonelydarksky, since we have been working together in reverting unsourced birth and death years for Three Kingdoms people, I should tell you that the IPs who have been inserting these years have spread their evil influences to the articles for year numbers as well (like 192, 234, etc). I have reverted them as best I can, but since I can foresee myself being busy for the next month, I ask you to keep an eye on those IPs (it's easier if you check their user contributions when they insert the fictional years into the biographical articles) and revert their edits on year articles if their additions don't match up with the biographical articles' birth and death years. Thank you! and ask me if you have any doubts =) _dk (talk) 16:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. I've a habit of checking user contributions, especially for IP editors and vandals.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 03:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

How to create family tree template?
Hi, I'm just wondering, how did you made those family tree template of Guo Jing on the Condor Trilogy pages, because I think The Yang family should be included as well. I want to make one but don't know how. Can you how me the link of a page how to make it? Thanks.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 03:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I didn't make those templates. My friend Newfraferz87 did. Anyway, you can check out Template:Family tree.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 02:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I just added the family tree template on the Condor Trilogy related pages. Feel free to check them all out, maybe having your friend Newfraferz87 make them better or something.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:54, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, hope you like it.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 07:01, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Greetings!
I just joined your Water Margin project! I have been wanting to work on Chinese literature (and philosophy) on wikipedia. Maybe if I help you with your project you can help me 三国演义 later? That is my favorite classical Chinese book! I am a new editor but I know Wikipedia's process pretty well, I just need somebody to help me to figure out where to start and how to go about things. I figured your project might be able :) --Shadowy Sorcerer (talk) 05:33, 13 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello there, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for joining WikiProject Water Margin! There's already a WikiProject Three Kingdoms that you can join. I look forward to working closely with you in future.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 03:06, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Hope it is okay for you
Of creating new subcategories within Category:Films set in the Song Dynasty and Category:Television series set in the Song Dynasty. Also, of the Condor Trilogy characters pages, I've made minor edits.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 06:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, almost everything is fine. I've already made edits to those areas that I don't agree with. As I've mentioned earlier, almost all the pages related to Condor Trilogy are on my watchlist. You don't need to leave messages on my talk page all the time to keep me updated on any changes to the articles.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

步步驚心 電視劇原聲音樂大碟
Here the download for Startling by Each Step OST (步步驚心 電視劇原聲音樂大碟) You can find the tracklist from the article, both English and Chinese version. Hope you like it. Also, I am increasingly frustrated that other people edited the article's summary without proper grammar, spelling, and details. I did not write the summary, because I'm waiting to get the Taiwanese version DVDs, yet did my best to correct it, and resort with my word processor to do grammar check. I don't know what to do.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link. That's exactly the problem when there's a lengthy and quite detailed plot summary. This opens up more "exposed areas" for people to randomly add redundant and superfluous details. Good luck with the corrections.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've another piece of advice for you: Creating too many categories for the same subject is not necessarily helpful to readers. Over-categorisation may sometimes confuse people.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 14:09, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope you like the soundtrack, because right now you can't get it on YesAsia.com. I just e-mail with them, and they said that their suppliers do not have it despites its already release around Asia.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:49, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

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 * Fixed.   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 13:03, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you too!   Lonelydarksky (暗無天日)  contact me (聯絡) 04:10, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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