User talk:LeadSongDog/Archives/2011/August

Suggestion
Hi -- it might make your life a little easier to know that you can link to Pubmed items simply by typing PMID followed by the number, i.e. PMID 4952918. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:12, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, forgot. Thank you. LeadSongDog come howl!  02:07, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

AF447 copy edit
Patelurology2 (talk) 00:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC) Patelurology2 (talk) 00:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Recognising input for copyedit from User:LeadSongDog and User:Moonriddengirl, two of the above passages and respective input on the main page is also corrected. Thanks.

The Bugle: Issue LXV, July 2011
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SODIS important information
Hi, I am an Italian boy and in this period I am reading many informations about water purification systems that could be useful for many people who haven't got drinking water. I added the new section "warning" in the voice "SODIS", but McGeddon deleted it because there is the "cautions" section. But he didn't write it in the other place, he simply deleted it, so I writed it again to see what would be happened and you deleted it again, without writing it in another part. Why? Is it a "false" information? Isn't it an important information? I'd like to know what will happen now. I wrote it again in the section "cautions". Have I got to look the page every day to see what happens? This is what I wrote: "It is important to check the material of the bottle, because some plastic materials, if exposed to the sun, release chemical substances in the water that could be dangerous for humans' health or even carcinogenic. A solution could be to use a container that has the upper half in plastic, so that the light can pass, and the lower half in another material that isn't dangerous." I'd like to know if you think that it isn't true. If you think it is true, you will understand that it is VERY important, so I'd like to know what will happen now, if I have to check every day that it isn't deleted and to write to all the people of Wikipedia to convince them that it is important of if someone will check if it is true and then will check that it will not be deleted. Thank you! --93.151.154.142 (talk) 18:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi! I'm sorry, I didn't noticed that the information was already discussed! I wrote that because I read about generic substances that could be released in the water, I found in particular "Bisphenol A": maybe it is not the case of the PET bottles, but this could be useful for people that doesn't know about "Bisphenol A", and it could be useful to let the people know that there could be risks also for other substances. I am looking for many informations on water purification systems for volunteering pojects, I am not an expert, so I read about UV lamps to have drinking water, I thought it could be better than SODIS, but now I am realizing that SODIS could be more important: both of them could be very useful, UV lamps are more rapid, but SODIS could be useful where there isn't an UV lamp. I "attacked" strongly the SODIS method becouse I read about toxic subtances and I thought it could be dangerous. Now I realized that it was already discussed, so it is all right. I'd like to know if you all could be interested in discuss about this outside Wikipedia, an exchange of informations about water purification systems. I am interested in this, I read on WHO's website that UV lamps could get drinking water with a cost of 2 dollar cents for 1,000 liters of water. OK, maybe I am doing something "illegal", but I am looking for people interested in sharing informations about drinking water, for example, it is very encouraging the fact that with an UV lamp and, for example, a sand filter you could get drinking water very easily. I don't know if I could ask you to discuss about this outside Wikipedia, but I am happy for now that you can see that I writed that information because it is VERY important.
 * I wrote this to you 3 that I met in this discussion.
 * If it is not possible to discuss about these systems outside Wikipedia, than I hope that I will write something else that could be useful to get drinking water, and so we could meet again and collaborate for drinking water. --93.150.52.156 (talk) 20:01, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you read through the article carefully, and the references at the bottom. Several are available in other languages if that helps. They make it clear that the technique works when followed, its success hinges on user education. The capital cost is just empty PET bottles, which are nearly free. As such it is suited to places where electricity is not available or affordable.
 * Wikipedia is not a place for original research, we work only with content that has already been published. If you have reliable sources about other techniques of Water treatment such as Ultraviolet disinfection it is certainly reasonable to use them at the relevant articles. LeadSongDog come howl!  13:21, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm a bit puzzled by your revert here - the editor wanting to add a new "caution" to the SODIS article realised their oversight and reverted their own edit yesterday. Did you overlook this action? So far as I can see you've just reverted some copyediting, one dropped image and a comparison to metal containers. --McGeddon (talk) 14:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Right, there was no reason given for either edit. The deleted image was relevant information: it shows the way that PET containers are recognized (by the numeral 1 in the recycling icon). Perhaps it would be better located furthe down the page, but deletion made no sense. The metal containers text was of marginal relevance and was not supported by ref. But this belongs on the article talkpage, not mine.LeadSongDog come howl!  16:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I just thought I'd save some time by checking you hadn't reverted in error. Will raise it now. --McGeddon (talk) 16:12, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, if those are your only objections and you just decided to revert the whole thing rather than work around the other edits, I'll just restore the bits you didn't object to, and explain the PET image. --McGeddon (talk) 16:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a reasonable way to procede. Now please take it to article talkspace.LeadSongDog come howl!  16:26, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

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