User talk:LeadSongDog/Archives/2016/March

A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
Hi, dog, thank for keeping an eye on the above page. May I ask your reasoning for removing the external link I placed there today. That link was originally placed there on 04:54, 14 September 2012 by Madhu Gopal and was to: A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Source material but was removed on Jan 1st 2016 along with a recently added misc. external link.

Previously, there was a link to:

"Vanipedia - The encyclopedia of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda's teachings since 11:38, 13 May 2010 Sahadeva

The Vanipedia.org wiki including Vanisource.org are licensed by and approved by ISKCON and the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. They contains all available material on A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada ie not only books (as in the case of the other external link Vedabase.com) but all lectures, conversation, audio and video.

I noticed that you also reverted the date of his Initiation/Diksa which he refers to in his lecture as being in 1932 not 1933. That lecture was linked to in the comments at the time I made the change and is also in the official archives' release of the CD version of the Bhaktivedanta Vedabase Folio as used by all of ISKCON.

I look forward to your feedback and continued interest Sahadeva 20:56, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That is precisely why they are unsuitable for inclusion in Wikipedia: we avoid relying on or promoting any particular group's wp:POV. The guideline is wp:ELNO. I suppose the Vedabase link should also come out, I just noticed the change, and missed the existing entry.LeadSongDog come howl!  21:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)


 * OK, I can respect that. Yes, the Vedabase.com site is run by an individual. How about the date of Srila Prabhupada's Diksa which is wrong if left as 1933? Sahadeva 21:14, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Got an independent reliable source? I'm not sure where either date came from.LeadSongDog come howl!  21:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Will see what I can come up with and will let you know :) As neither date can be independently verified ATM and due to the fact that there is audio on the page I linked to in the comments (1976 Lecture) where Srila Prabhupada himself stated his diksa was in 1932, would you accept that change from 1933 to 1932 for now? Sahadeva 21:57, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks that it has gone back and forth several times since 2006. It was at one time attributed to Goswami (1983), but since that was only put out by the Book Trust, I don't really see that as being more or less reliable than vanisource, just another for-the-believers kind of "reference". Certainly a better source would be welcome, but then it likely is not that important a point. Perhaps "1932 or 1933" would suffice? LeadSongDog come howl!  22:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your time on this. I will make the change back to 1932 then tomorrow if that's all right. Sahadeva 22:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!
For your persistence in research. I'm so happy to be able to read the Arctic book you found for me. Thank you! Carbon Caryatid (talk) 12:34, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXX, March 2016
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Don't do this again
Please review my edit history before before posting warnings, I am currently in a discussion on other page after the second revert. Valoem talk  contrib  17:59, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Good. Next time, how about discussing after the first revert? WP:BRD is not WP:BRRRD. The first revert should be all the cue one needs to start a discussion at the relevant talkpage.LeadSongDog come howl!  18:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * How about if you went through my edit history and looks at the edit summary and AfD discussion you will see I did. The request was to not remove reliable sources during an AfD so other can judge the article neutrally. Don't get bitey with me, I left a nice enough message, do your homework next time and we won't have this issue. Valoem  talk  contrib  18:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Bitey? You didn't seem to be a newcomer. Just calm down, and we can have a civilized discussion at the relevant article talkpage. Interfering with other's ability to edit constructively goes nowhere fast. LeadSongDog come howl!  18:22, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * On the talk page User:Valoem wrote "There is no issue with using primary sources, they can not be used for notability, but can be used for information." If the primary sources can not be used for notability then they should not be kept during the AFD and since they are unreliable should not be restored. QuackGuru  ( talk ) 18:24, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Those are not primary sources. I made that pretty clear and keep the discussion where it is. Valoem  talk  contrib  18:26, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Studies, primary sources, and corporate websites are not MEDRS or RS. QuackGuru  ( talk ) 18:28, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Enough, both of you. This does not belong on my talkpage. Say it at the article talk or the AFD talk. LeadSongDog come howl!  19:04, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

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