User talk:Leahtwosaints/Archive 1

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Hi Leah. I moved your message here, your talk page, and formatted it a bit. Welcome to wikipedia. You don't need to know HTML, wikipedia doesn't use it. To start learning how to edit wikipedia, go to the Tutorial. If you want help with anything, just leave a message here and I'll answer it. --Hugh Charles Parker (talk - contribs) 08:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Wondering about Outlaw Country Music and how women artists are not mentioned
I honestly think that Outlaw Country should include women as well as men. Perhaps I've read that area wrong, but it seems a bit gender biased.--leahtwosaints 13:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Hot Band
A tag has been placed on Hot Band requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. — Jona  than  18:28, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Guthrie article
Thankfully there is more than enough information for the Woody Guthrie article, but thanks for your kind offer. Kmzundel (talk) 22:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Old Grey Whistle Test
Hi there. If this is the Emmylou special from 1977, Bob Harris (radio) would still have been presenting. Watched the YouTube but didn't see him, or anyone else I remember, on it. The only co-presenters were Mark Ellen & David Hepworth but they weren't around until the early 1980s. An actual date for the YouTube clip would be useful as I don't have a full list of OGWT appearances. Also left a coupla comments on Talk:Hot Band. Hope that helps. -- Rodhullandemu  (please reply here - contribs) 23:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The reason I included the link was because I have no idea how the clip, not in complete form ended up on You Tube, but it did have some nice quotes. I can't decide whether I am ready to complete a page or..  what?  I have given consideration to adding the information about the Hot Band to Emmylou's page instead.  Probably smarter just because although the members of the Hot Band were a great talent pool..  Ricky Skaggs and Rodney Crowell alone are good examples.. unlike other backup bands like The Band or The Eagles, the Hot Band did not perform solo.

I do remember the "whisperer" who I saw from the OGWT interviewing Elton John in 1971. Good way to describe him. LOL. As you can see, I've asked for a mentor, but I doubt people want to get involved in such stuff, so I'm just trying not to screw up in the wiki. Thanks for answering. --leahtwosaints 00:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I am confused by the descision on the talk page for merging the Hot Band piece with Emmylou's page. I thought it was agreed to merge the two, but the last comment confused me. --leahtwosaints (talk) 11:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Klezmatics
I don't see the problem, other than that the photo appears fairly large. It was great to hear them on NPR the other night, doing the Woody Guthrie stuff. If you think something is wrong with the article, feel free to fix it. Badagnani (talk) 01:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

WP:LGBT invitation
Hi Leah, I noticed your post on the talk page of the LGBT Studies project. Since you seem to be interested, I'm inviting you to join the project if you like. You can, of course, help without joining, but we'd welcome you! :) Aleta   (Sing)  15:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Citing references
Hey Leah, is it finding references you need help to do, or putting them in the article correctly? (Or both?) If it's putting them in, you might want to read WP:REF. I'll try to take a look and help out with what I can. If you've got any specific questions, I'll be glad to try to answer them if I can! :) Aleta   (Sing)  05:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Sharon Gilchrist
Hi Leah,

I have for now probably been the main contributor to the Sharon Gilchrist article and I see that you are doing a lot of editing there currently. It's good to see someone takes the time to improve it (especially since I am not a native English speaker). Would you mind to look into Uncle Earl as well, I'm sure it could use some brush up.

Thank you very much

--Krautmaster (talk) 22:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Leah,

I'm truly sorry I had never responded to you message. I haven't touched Wikipedia much in recent times and to be honest with you I really had forgotten about your message at some point.

I guess I will use the weekend and do some research on Sharon and Troy and see what I can update.

Update:

I have information on Troy, it's not a lot though. It is raw material, everything with sources, but not edited at all, merely a bunch of copy & paste snippets. Can I send this somehow to you?

--Krautmaster (talk) 22:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes!! Please, send the stuff about Troy.  It seems that although I'm always interested in stray articles, and feel a compulsion to edit the flow of the English prose, finding great references are not my best attribute.  I'll put the references in, if you want to send me the information.  Ask:  what is the best place?  Here is OK, I guess.  You can also reach me by email at: leah2saints@yahoo.com  I will be happy to help and learn this wikipedia editing with you! --leahtwosaints (talk) 21:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if you got my e-mail
 * --Krautmaster (talk) 22:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see it. I delete everything in the Bulk area, so it might have gone that way.  Check your talk page, OK?  I'm not sure I can help much right now.  I just found the Dixie Chicks page has been Plagiarized for the past two years.  OH GAWD!  --leahtwosaints (talk) 10:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Response
I have left you a response on the Blue Peter Badge article. Joshuarooney2008 (talk) 16:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Lowell George 1976 with slide.jpg
Thank you for uploading Image:Lowell George 1976 with slide.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 04:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I made a mistake trying to upload the photo. What must be done?  --leahtwosaints (talk) 04:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey Leah, that was a bot that posted that message. I don't think a human will be watching your page for questions.  I've never uploaded an image, so I can't help you with it. I suggest you repost your question at the media copyright questions page as suggested in the bot's message. Aleta  Sing  13:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Dixie Chicks changes
In reply to the note you left on my talk page asking two questions: how to make a separate page for a subject's political controversy, and where to find historical Dixie Chicks info. On the first, I have no idea -- you've spent more time on Wikipedia than I have in the past few months. However, I would suggest leaving the info about the political controversy in the main article, since the controversy redefined the group entirely. That's why I call this era "Dixie Chicks v3.0" on my site. As far as historical info (Dixie Chicks v1.0), that's what my site is about, so please feel free to use it as a reference as much as you would like. I only have a small "pictures" section, though, and I don't think most of the images would work under Wikipedia's strict copyright rules. --Robertb-dc (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Your request on my page
Hi Leah,

I sent the mail again to the other address. Regarding the subject of adoption I had left you a message on my page a while ago

Take care

--Krautmaster (talk) 17:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Dixie Chicks and your message to me
Check your mail

--Krautmaster (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Re adoption/mentoring
Hey there, got your message earlier, but was unable to reply until now. I would be more than happy to help you out/assist you with anything Wikipedia related. If you wish to make it a formal adoption, just let me know. If not, then you are more than welcome to bug the heck out of me with questions : )  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 05:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello again! What I'll do is set up a subpage on my userpage for adoption. There you and I can get acquainted and see what your goals are for Wikipedia. Sorry it took me a day or two to respond, I've been a little busy, but that should change this week, don't worry. I'll let you know when the page is ready. In the meantime, if you have any other questions, you may drop them on my talk page. I'll probably answer them there. I'm leaving you this message here just in case you didn't have my talk page watchlisted. Cheers matey.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 00:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

UMCP Motto
According to the University of Maryland Archives pages, http://www.lib.umd.edu/univarchives/macmil/letm.html, the State motto *is* the university motto. I marked your changes as good faith, and reverted with the additional reference.Naraht (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, Miss Julie, and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Wikipedia weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has tumbleweeds blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the talk page of the project, you can let us know you're still around.

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

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Your message to me
Please see Talk:Dixie Chicks: Shut Up and Sing. You have it backwards! I wrote the material first, then some other website copied it without Wikipedia attribution. Wasted Time R (talk) 03:01, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Martie Maguire scope
I see you are still working on Dixie Chicks history in the Martie Maguire article ... Please read what I posted at Talk:Martie Maguire and respond there. Wasted Time R (talk) 12:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Emily Robison scope
See Talk:Emily Robison, for what was wrong with it, for what I have done, and for areas where it still needs improvement. Respond there if you have any concerns. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Flickr question
To respond to your question, I'm not quite sure how Flickr image importing works. The topic is discussed at WP:Image, and as I understand it, some Flickr images are licensed in a way that we can use them, and some aren't. If you look at Flickr images that are used on WP, like Image:Pete Yorn in Austin, Texas.jpg, you'll see that they have a big green checkmark in them, signifying that someone has approved their licensing for WP use. I'm not sure what the process is that gets that. I myself have never brought in any Flickr images; the Dixie Chicks photos you see that I uploaded are all ones that I took myself at concerts (not great, but better than nothing), so I just uploaded them directly from my computer, selecting one of the WP licenses. Sorry I can't be more help on this one. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright. I have been watching for images of musical artists who are missing from the english wikipedia, or who can surely use more photographs to grace their page, and have found some folks with great photos. I emailed "ViVi" (a pro photographer) who uploaded a Pete Yorn photo (who opened and/or performed before the Dixie Chicks a few times), as well as at least one good band photo of Dixie Chicks together, plus some individual pics of the trio individually.  I noticed photos of Derek Trucks and the Derek Trucks Band, which needs a stub, BTW, separately from his own page.  I've also found a guy with two great photos of Lowell George playing up close with the slide which won him fame, but he can't recall who sold him those photos, so does that mean they aren't usable?  It's been 30 years now!  And finally, one of Lisa Fischer, who sings backing vocals with the Rolling Stones but I think that pic isn't OK, b/c the poster doesn't remember where she got it from. Since I'm disabled, I can't get out to places anymore to enjoy concerts or take my own photos. I found this page:  for uploading pics. I think it helps to take the time out to contact people with Flickr photos to either wikipedia or wikimedia! --leahtwosaints (talk) 18:00, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Page with Flickr copyright info is here: --leahtwosaints (talk) 18:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * At a guess, if somebody buys a print of the photograph, they don't own the copyright, the original photographer still does (think Ansel Adams prints, etc.). If somebody buys the negative of the photograph, then maybe they now own the copyright too.  How does it work with digital photography?  No clue!  As for Flickr image use, at this point you know more about it than I do.  It's never easy with images and Wikipedia ... Wasted Time R (talk) 13:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your prior questions, the Dixie Chicks infobox genre list formatting seems to be correct. (People will always disagree over what the genres should be, but that's another matter.) Regarding new people, band, or song articles, the best way is to find an existing article that's close to the one you want to add and modify it. So for example if you want to create You Were Mine, start with either There's Your Trouble or Wide Open Spaces (song), both of which were also #1 country singles from the same album and thus will use a lot of the same boxes and fields and categories. Do "edit this page" on one of them, copy the whole contents, then start the new article by clicking the above redlink, and paste everything into that. Then start editing to change all the names and other details and everything else to describe the new song. Then when it looks semi-reasonable, "save page" it and then keep doing further work on it, etc. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your query on my page
Hey Leah, I've never tried to bring images over here from Commons. It's probably not a big deal, but since I've never tried to do it, I reiterated your query, asking those who have to please help you. With luck, someone will respond soon. :) Aleta  Sing 19:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, Moni and I have been "talking" in the thread on my page. It apparently is trivial to use an image once it's on Commons. Read through what Moni says, and see if that gives you what you need to run with this now. Aleta  Sing 19:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter (July 2008)

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