User talk:Leaky caldron/Archives/2020/February

BLUDGEONing
I saw your comments at the proposed decision. I have a few thoughts on BLUDGEON more generally. I spent a fair amount of time last month really diving into bludgeoning and I have to tell you I find it a mess. In most areas there's enough out there that a determined sysop can figure out where the lines are drawn and what the community has and hasn't supported in the past. Bludgeon seems to exist far more in a "I know it when I see it" category. Which isn't too surprising because it's an essay and not even one of those essays that is linked to by guidelines/policies in a way that means it's not "just" an essay. This makes it really hard to explain to someone where the line is and to otherwise justify some administrative/clerking action against a good faith editor just trying their best. Not disputing in anyway the frustration you feel but thought you might be interested in this perspective/thought. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * . Thanks. As far as my personal impression is concerned the editor concerned had disruption in mind from the start. I have not seen a Workshop where a recently revived account has appeared, created a section listing everyone's evidence, set out to refute that evidence and then do the same to the genuine Workshop sections created by others. On top of that, refuting every point, adding inaccurate POV interpretation and THEN going through the whole destructive cycle again when the originator attempts to clarify. They have created a long, confusing mess basically dismissing everyone's evidence and saying "Kudpung has no case to answer, you're all making it up". Assuming the best of faith that it was not deliberate, it has left the workshop page in a shambles and has muddied the waters. An early intervention asking for the separate "repeated evidence" section to be removed and to stick to the standard page format using the "comments by others" would have certainly helped. Leaky caldron (talk) 08:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)