User talk:Lecen/Archive 21

Emily Dickinson
I see that you !voted Support of the original, but then reverted my addition of the original. First, is there a way that you can insert the original without the frame? Second, if the daguerrotype that is in Commons really is the original, then the copyright issue should be addressed because it is in the public domain due to its age. What do you want to do next? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

FAC: Juan Manuel de Rosas
Hi Lecen. My apologies that I was not able to help at the time. My head was in a different state. I made some small tweaks today. Please don't hesitate to call on me again, this time as I am now in a new frame of mind. Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 15:11, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Brazil
O que significa isto? Que comportamento amador é este? Essa sua reversão absurda contém erros gramaticais e apaga conteúdo válido e referenciado baseado em justificativa nenhuma! Isto é vandalismo! Minhas alterações não tornaram a seção demasiadamente extensa e alegar isto para reverte-la é simplesmente ridículo. Veja o que você está fazendo antes de se meter em uma discussão cujo teor você claramente desconhece. E escrevo em português porque você é brasileiro e ainda entende a tua língua materna, não? Seu comportamento é constrangedor! Chronus (talk) 02:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:00, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Empire of Brazil
Na primeira metade do século XIX, Recife era ainda a cidade mais rica do Brasil. Considero necessária a inserção de imagens da capital pernambucana naquele século; e inúmeros artigos destacados contam com imagens panorâmicas. Abraço.--Juniorpetjua (talk) 17:19, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/July 19, 2016
Hi Lecen. A summary of a Featured Article you nominated will appear on the Main Page soon. The TFA text mostly follows the lead section; how does it look? - Dank (push to talk) 20:30, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Precious again
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:32, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Your Governorate General of Bahia merger proposal of 2015: any discussion?
You marked the article Governorate General of Bahia for a merger proposal, but opened no discussion. Is there a rationale for the merger that you could put under "discussion", or should it just be erased? Thanks. Prburley (talk) 19:06, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear Prburley, that article, along with others which are related, was created by an user a few years ago. He started creating several articles there were nothing more than stubs and that would never grow larger than that. I thought that it would be wiser to simply erase it and redirect it to the main article: Colonial Brazil. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Per Proposed mergers each merger proposal should start with a discussion--then the "proposed merge" tag. Hence the confusion here. I recommend leaving the articles as they are and removing the merger tags. Or, you could start an individual discussion for each proposed merger and re-post the proposed merger tag. What's your opinion? Thanks! Prburley (talk) 20:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

10,000 Challenge
Hi, I was wondering if you would like to collaborate long term in trying to reach a 10,000 article improvement/creation drive for Brazil/South/Latin America at WikiProject Latin America/The 10,000 Challenge like we're doing for the UK at The 10,000 Challenge? Regional contests fuel the drive but it's a permanent goal now. Would you and Brazilian wikipedians be interested in running a similar thing and some country contests/editathons to increase output? We could do a 1000 Challenge for Brazil to start with? Comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South America if interested.♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:09, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Brazil
Hello. You are at 3 reverts currently. Coupled with the other 3 reverts of Chronus, this makes 6 for your side of the argument. This cannot continue. Thanks. Dr.  K.  04:58, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Latin American 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Latin America/The 10,000 Challenge ‎ has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Brazil, Mexico, Peru and Argentina etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Latin American content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 350 articles in just six days. If you would like to see this happening for Latin America, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Latin America, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thankyou.♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Economy of the Empire of Brazil e Politics of the Empire of Brazil
Você tem algum problema com Pernambuco? Pernambuco foi a capitania/província mais rica do Brasil na primeira metade do século XIX, e Recife era a cidade mais importante economicamente e politicamente no Brasil durante todo o século XIX atrás apenas do Rio de Janeiro (por motivos óbvios). Por que os dois artigos não têm nada a respeito e nenhuma foto de Pernambuco? Muito injusto. Muito estranho.--Juniorpetjua (talk) 03:14, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Empire of Brazil
Não estou entendendo a sua resistência. Eu estou inserindo uma fotografia maravilhosa da mesma época e em alta resolução. Conheço bem o Recife e sua história, e a área retratada na foto de 1851 não era tão relevante, isso não bastasse o tamanho da imagem.--Juniorpetjua (talk) 03:03, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * , o que mais me admira é a sua teimosia em manter no artigo aquele trecho sobre a população escrava, mesmo após a inserção de uma fonte absolutamente fidedigna (IBGE), que você desprestigia em favor de um historiador irrelevante mesmo sabendo que o IBGE constitui a principal fonte para historiadores em se tratando de estatísticas populacionais. E até pela lógica... a gente sabe que no Rio de Janeiro e na Bahia havia mesmo muitos escravos ociosos a espera de compradores, mas dizer que até o Rio Grande do Sul tinha mais escravos que Pernambuco, sendo que Pernambuco era o maior produtor de açúcar e algodão do Império? É um completo despautério. Não creio que você, historiador que é, manterá no artigo um trecho incorreto mesmo ciente de que ele está errado. Abraço.--Juniorpetjua (talk) 20:48, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Titles of nobility
Hi Lecen. Hope you are well. Just out of curiosity, I would like to pick your brain. I came across this Palácio Burnay, which I see is named after the Henrique Burnay, 1.º conde de Burnay. What I find odd is being called "of Brunay", when Burnay is in fact the person's surname. Normally such titles are named after a region, such as Conde de Portela, Duque de blabla, etc. Would you have any idea why the complement of this guy's title is his own surname? Thanks, Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 19:09, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Rui, is good to hear from you. The count you mentioned was a noble from Portugal, but it's safe to presume that nobility worked there and in Brazil essentially the same (except that in Brazil was not hereditary). People were granted noble titles according to deeds or places related to their deeds. Thus you have the Baron of Passagem, who made the passage of Humaitá during the Paraguayan War or the Duke of Caxias, named after the town in Maranhão he recaptured from rebels. There are curious cases such as the famous general Osório, who became Baron and later Marquis of Erval because he found a beautiful field of herbs ("Herval" in old Portuguese), during military maneuvers in his younger years, even though he became a noble not because of that, but because of his role as accomplished leader during the Paraguayan War. The last case are nobles who are given their last names. That occurred indeed. Remember the Viscount of Taunay? His surname was Taunay. It all depended of the emperor. He was the one who chose the names. --Lecen (talk) 19:36, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks Lecen. Quite a fount of knowledge on nobility and monarchies. I confess my ignorance, I had not heard of Taunay, and quite an accomplished gentleman he was - "escritor, músico, professor, engenheiro militar, político, historiador e sociólogo brasileiro". Interesting also to read about Erval. I see that "erval" refers to a field of erva-mate, in this dictionary identified as congonha. Regards, Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 10:14, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Congrats
I spotted Decline and fall of Pedro II of Brazil on the main page in "On this day." :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 08:25, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Explanation
I placed the flags in order to standardize with other monarchs as Franz Joseph I of Austria, Nicholas II of Russia, Isabel II of Spain, Victor Emmanuel III of Italy, etc, and even current Head of Royal Houses's wikipedia pages. I intend to do the same with other pages of monarchs. Arthur Brum —Preceding undated comment added 21:46, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * None of which are featured articles. Nowhere it is said that we need little flags around in articles. --Lecen (talk) 21:54, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * MOS:FLAG seems applicable here. Generally speaking, I'd be against using flags without good reason—like South American dreadnought race, where the flags are a way to keep the table narrower. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Multiple sources in one ref
Had never seen this way of placing multipple sources. Brilliant. I wonder who came up with it. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 02:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion
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You are a fuckіng PIG
Dirty brazilian SCUM
 * The IP shows that you're... Argentine, from Buenos Aires. Very reasonable. --Lecen (talk) 15:47, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Dark, dark
Well, it is not centre, is it? Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 11:46, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Nice photo
Is your doctoral department aware that you created a phony citation to back up a troll point on this article? Happy trails to you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luís_Alves_de_Lima_e_Silva,_Duke_of_Caxias — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drickfire (talk • contribs) 04:18, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre
Hi Licínio, how's it going? Jim has told me he plans to run this article at TFA on May 12. Does that work for you? I'm having trouble reducing the lead to 1175 characters ... I'm not sure which are the most important points. Which sentences from the lead should we keep? (If you mention the first few words from each sentence here, I'll copy it to my sandbox and work on it.) - Dank (push to talk) 22:25, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you wait until Monday? I'm right now at the airport taking a flight from the US to Brazil. On Monday I'll have time to work on it with care. In case you can't wait, simply mention that he had distinguished military career, fighting in several wars (X, Y, Z...) and also was a politician, serving as general deputy and minister of war. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
 * We've got plenty of time, enjoy your trip. - Dank (push to talk) 22:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre article has been scheduled as today's featured article for May 13, 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/May 13, 2017, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1100 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Thanks!

I've seen Dan's comment above, so ignore the TFA link for now, he will replace my text Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Ping. I'll need to get to work on this in the next few days, Lecen, did you have any suggestions? - Dank (push to talk) 14:42, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
 * "Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre (1804–1875) was an army officer, politician, abolitionist and monarchist of the Empire of Brazil. His military career began in the late 1810s, and he later joined the struggle for the  Brazilian independence and fought  in the Cisplatine War during the 1820s. When his native province of Rio Grande do Sul was engulfed in a major secessionist rebellion from 1835 until 1845, he distinguished himself by remaining loyal to his country. In 1852, he led an army division during the Platine War in the invasion of the Argentine Confederation that overthrew its dictator. Porto Alegre also had a distinguished career in politics, being elected to the provincial legislature of Rio Grande do Sul, and founding the provincial Progressive-Liberal Party. He later entered the lower house of the Brazilian parliament and was briefly Minister of War. After returning to the military as one of the chief Brazilian commanders during the Paraguayan War (1864) and achieving important victories, he became an active advocate for the abolition of slavery and a patron in the fields of literature and science." push to talk, perhaps this? I'm sorry for being so late, my past weeks have been hard. I trust your judgement, my friend. --Lecen (talk) 10:25, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! I'll get to this later today. - Dank (push to talk) 11:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I incorporated some of your language, but I'd prefer to keep most of my wording ... your version is fine, but mine uses wording more typical for TFA. It's a different thing. - Dank (push to talk) 20:25, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your part to today's Manuel Marques de Sousa, Count of Porto Alegre, "a key figure in the Brazilian victory in the War of the Ragamuffins, Platine War and Paraguayan War", "also a politician, member of the Liberal Party, and fought for the abolition of slavery"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Joaquim José Inácio, Viscount of Inhaúma scheduled for TFA
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Joaquim José Inácio, Viscount of Inhaúma
Thank you for the TFA, Joaquim José Inácio, Viscount of Inhaúma! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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