User talk:Leeedy

Frankly, I hate the internet and the way this site is set up where anyone can say anything... or anyone can re-edit an edit without knowing the subject deeply. I did not offer my corrections to the rampant myths of the Anthony neon sign out of pure opinion.

There is no book on Earle C. Anthony. There is no title. There is no particular "author." I did not refer to a book. I only referred to an internal official biography put together in the early 1950s by Mr. Anthony's staff for P.R. purposes. I have that original item in my files. It is a bunch of stapled sheets out of Mr. Anthony's personal files. I would certainly refer and defer to this rather than myths on the internet and from opinions of the neon folk around today... who all repeat the same erroneous "history."

I was also a board member of ECAPMCC and I managed to save many of Mr. Anthony's personal papers and photo collection back in the early 1970s. This is a large amount of material–all of it original and all of it either first-hand or approved by Mr. Anthony himself. I have the only known existing 8 x 10 glossy photo of neon sign #2 as erected in San Francisco which was identical to neon sign #1 that was erected in downtown Los Angeles. The silly myths on the internet and elsewhere today continue to promote a fictional idea that the first sign was placed on the front of the Anthony building or on top of it. Neither is true. The building pictured often did not even exist at the time the sign was erected! Furthermore, the sign was huge, not the tiny thing they show today, which in fact was sign #3 which was quite small and put up last and on the front of the Anthony building at 1000 South Olympic Street in downtown Los Angeles. I don't have any reason to fabricate this information. I may go even further by saying I once worked in that very building in the post-Anthony era. I will go even further in stating that the actual location of the original Anthony neon was nowhere on his Packard dealership (contrary to today's myths) but in fact was several blocks away on the corner of 7th and Flower streets. How do I know this? Again, it says so in Mr. Anthony's papers... AND I interviewed two of the last surviving top execs of ECA, Inc. back in the 1970s who also verified this location.

Finally, the colors indicated today by both the City of Los Angeles and the so-called "replicas" of the sign are incorrect. The original sign lit up blue, not red. And it was a phenomenon to Angelinos back then.

I also spoke many times back then with Mr. Anthony's attorneys in the 1970s. If anyone would know this subject, it would be me, I can assure you. I (among other things) am a known historian and know this particular subject extremely well. And I have the papers to back it up. Anyone who truly knows my writings would tell you that I am a stickler for facts.

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Your contribution based on Anthony's biography is interesting and helpful. Could you also provide the details of the book (title, author, page #, etc.?). If you're not sure how to do that, you can pretty much enter anything and some other editor will fix it up for you. Or leave a message here or on my talk page with the info, and I'll enter it for you. Cheers, Easchiff (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Leedy, I came across the Neon sign page looking for info on luminance, and removed your addition. I'm afraid it's not very formal to state in an article "I have his autobiography and this information is there" or something similar. As Easchiff suggests above we need a title, an author and a few other details so others can verify this information. See WP:CITE for more info. There are plenty of people around to help so just ask if you need it. Happy editing! Bigger digger (talk) 09:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Frankly, I hate the internet and the way this site is set up where anyone can say anything... or anyone can re-edit an edit without knowing the subject deeply. I did not offer my corrections to the rampant myths of the Anthony neon sign out of pure opinion.

There is no book on Earle C. Anthony. There is no title. There is no particular "author." I did not refer to a book. I only referred to an internal official biography put together in the early 1950s by Mr. Anthony's staff for P.R. purposes. I have that original item in my files. It is a bunch of stapled sheets out of Mr. Anthony's personal files. I would certainly refer and defer to this rather than myths on the internet and from opinions of the neon folk around today... who all repeat the same erroneous "history."

I was also a board member of ECAPMCC and I managed to save many of Mr. Anthony's personal papers and photo collection back in the early 1970s. This is a large amount of material–all of it original and all of it either first-hand or approved by Mr. Anthony himself. I have the only known existing 8 x 10 glossy photo of neon sign #2 as erected in San Francisco which was identical to neon sign #1 that was erected in downtown Los Angeles. The silly myths on the internet and elsewhere today continue to promote a fictional idea that the first sign was placed on the front of the Anthony building or on top of it. Neither is true. The building pictured often did not even exist at the time the sign was erected! Furthermore, the sign was huge, not the tiny thing they show today, which in fact was sign #3 which was quite small and put up last and on the front of the Anthony building at 1000 South Olympic Street in downtown Los Angeles. I don't have any reason to fabricate this information. I may go even further by saying I once worked in that very building in the post-Anthony era. I will go even further in stating that the actual location of the original Anthony neon was nowhere on his Packard dealership (contrary to today's myths) but in fact was several blocks away on the corner of 7th and Flower streets. How do I know this? Again, it says so in Mr. Anthony's papers... AND I interviewed two of the last surviving top execs of ECA, Inc. back in the 1970s who also verified this location.

Finally, the colors indicated today by both the City of Los Angeles and the so-called "replicas" of the sign are incorrect. The original sign lit up blue, not red. And it was a phenomenon to Angelinos back then.

I also spoke many times back then with Mr. Anthony's attorneys in the 1970s. If anyone would know this subject, it would be me, I can assure you. I (among other things) am a known historian and know this particular subject extremely well. And I have the papers to back it up. Anyone who truly knows my writings would tell you that I am a stickler for facts.

By the way... "Leeedy" is with 3 "e" letters.