User talk:Legion Duke


 * 1) Thank you for experimenting with the page Legion of the Damned on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.  Lowris 11:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Legion of the Damned. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox.  --Pak21 12:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

The Legion of the Damned exists. It is an organisation with objectives and an agenda. It is not a game for children. Kindly show me where Wiki places the needs of children playing RPGs above the dissemination of information?

Legion Duke


 * Please show some evidence that the Legion of the Damned are notable. They don't seem to show up anywhere on the first few pages of Google hits for "legion of the damned". Also, you should not simply add random text to other articles without any care for the article you are damaging: that is vandalism, whatever the content you are adding. You should consider creating a separate article for "your" Legion of the Damned (although you should probably read WP:VANITY first) and adding a link there from the current article, or possibly creating a disambiguation page in place of the current page which could be moved to another title. I would however oppose both those unless evidence of the Legion of the Damned's notability can be shown. --Pak21 16:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Pak21

OK, here we go

"A topic has notability if it is known outside a narrow interest group or constituency, or should be because of its particular importance or impact."

The LotD is of vital interest to anyone using the internet who has had it with spammers, trolls and lame gits who believe LOL constitutes intelligent discussion. And that’s an awful lot of people.

So a Google search is a determination of notability is it? Well that’s us banjaxed isn’t it? We aint a knitting circle, we don’t recruit, we don’t engage in public debate and you couldn’t find us if you had the entire resources of a tiny little software consultancy in a small village just outside Cambridge at your disposal.

But we’re notable all right. You want testimonials from some of the boards we’ve cleaned up at the request of Admins? You want us to launch a website? Clamber up Google? What?


 * If you have some reliable sources which confirm what you're saying, please feel very free to point me to them. Until then, I remain unconvinced, especially as you appear to be well... spamming Wikipedia. You should probably also read Wikipedia's policy on no personal attacks, particularly the bit about "comment[ing] on content, not the contributor." --Pak21 10:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

posting what I believe to be a short article of interest to readers, twice, then stopping when someone pointed out why it was being deleted is SPAMMING? My my. And if I had personally attacked anyone they would know about it, trust me on that. I have commented on no contributor. I am simply trying to discover what criteria you apply to delete a piece about a real, flesh & blood entity of note, in favour of a game?


 * You may not personally be spamming Wikipedia, but the actions of yourself, 38.115.148.92, 82.93.226.198 (twice) and Evil Blood (twice) definitely add up to spamming in my opinion. While trying to assume good faith, I find it very hard to believe these actions are not being coordinated. --Pak21 12:10, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Evil Blood and myself are members of the Legion of the Damned. We share an interest in informing the world this august body exists. Are we coordinated? Well, we do talk to each other. As to evidence of Good Intent, I could cite the fact that you are able to read this? But that might be construed as a personal attack, so I wont. Fact is Pak, we have not spammed, we have not attacked anybody, we have simply tried to get a Legion of the Damned included on the Legion of the Damned page. Would it hep if we all started playing Warhammer?


 * Let's loose the spamming debate; it's not helping. Where is the verifiable evidence from reliable sources that the Legion of the Damned are notable? Without that, the Legion of the Damned are not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. --Pak21 14:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)