User talk:Legoktm/December 2012

Wikidata weekly summary #34
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 08:22, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Added DirectSqlStore to client so that it can directly access the repository database, and not require creating any tables on the client
 * Bug fixing on the client extension, and preparing it for first deployment
 * Less edit conflicts due to a smarter conflict detection
 * Better recent changes comments on the client
 * Clean up on the backend for entity artefacts
 * The statement UI enables to create statements and displays them, but has still a few glitches
 * The client now accesses the data on the server directly, and the data is not replicated anymore
 * Added a number of profiler calls
 * Special:Contributions displays labels now
 * User preference on the client to hide Wikidata edits
 * Statements can be created and saved now
 * Statements are properly styled in JavaScript and non-JavaScript version
 * Improved JavaScript part of the templating engine
 * Improved entity selector widget
 * Client:Watchlist Selenium Tests
 * Client: RecentChanges Selenium tests
 * Added DataValues, DataTypes, jQuery.ui QUnit tests to Selenium
 * Some PHPUnit test fixes
 * Discussions/Press
 * Behaviour on null edits
 * Events
 * Linuxday
 * Open Sunday after Wikimedia Deutschland’s membership assembly
 * SWIB
 * foss.in
 * upcoming: intro and Q&A in Bangalore
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Chart of item creation progress
 * Demo system will be unavailable shortly next week
 * Code-base is now nearly 100 000 lines
 * You can now look up Wikidata identifiers on dbpedia lite and it shows up in the RDF
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Hack on one of these
 * Give the demo system a try

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Invalid Timestamp
I was changing invalid timestamps Koala15 (talk) 00:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)Koala15
 * I figured that out right afterwards. Thanks :) Legoktm (talk) 00:49, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
Hi Legoktm, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Rschen7754 10:20, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I guess this means I have to write a few more articles now Legoktm (talk) 20:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Sree kurumbakkav bhagavathy temple poickattussery
Thank you for your speedy deletion nomination for Sree kurumbakkav bhagavathy temple poickattussery, an article with many problems and lacking notability. I hope you will follow up with an AfD if there is objection to the deletion. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's a clear copyright violation so there is virtually no chance it will be kept. Legoktm (talk) 17:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

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Recent Vandalism
Hi - could you slow down and double check some of your recent AIV reports please? These include and, neither of which have any edits for over six months. The Cavalry (Message me) 20:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * About to post it on your talk page, but check the filter log button, you'll notice that they are actively trying to vandalize (not succeeding though), and my reports are correct. Legoktm (talk) 20:40, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If they can't get through the edit filter, there's really no reason to block them, since the edit filter is handling it neatly. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 20:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thats not entirely true though. Look at Special:Contributions/142.33.224.2 who's actively vandalizing. A few of their edits have gone through, and a few have been blocked by the filter. If we know they're vandalizing, and have made/tried to make enough edits that are our normal threshold for blocking, why should they not be blocked? Or what about registered accounts that are obviously vandalism-only-accounts? Should we just let them be and keep trying against the filter? That doesn't really make sense to me. Legoktm (talk) 20:46, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Addendum: Blocks are preventative. If we know (with a specified level of certainty) that they are going to vandalize (and that their intent is to vandalize), isn't a block the right solution? Legoktm (talk) 20:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No, because if they're not getting through the edit filter, they're not actually harming anything, so there's no preventative value in a block. Preventative not punitive means that it's not about what they want to do, it's about what they're actually doing, and an edit blocked by the filter does nothing. (Side note: I've become much more conservative about using the buttons after I gained the ability to do so. :) ) Side note 2: JamesBWatson overruled and blocked, which is perfectly fine, too, so carry on, I guess. :)Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 20:54, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. That's probably a more conservative interpretation than I would make, but still valid.
 * So then for future reports what should my threshold be? 5+ filter hits plus at least 1 real edit? 2 edits? Higher? Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 21:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm. So I'm guessing that there are different standards among the admin corp as well on what is blockable and what isnt. I think this discussion (how much a filtered edit is "worth" in the 4-warning system) should probably be brought to a bigger audience then. Legoktm (talk) 21:03, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh, probably not a real division; Cavalry and I are probably just being oversensitive. That would be an interesting conversation to have, though, if you want to start it. Purely for myself, I'd say one real vandal edit and a bunch (three or four-ish?) of filter hits would do it. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 21:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Once I have time in a few weeks after finals
 * I'll try and see if I can follow that, my current "standards" are 5+ filter hits, and depending on the seriousness of the edits (BLP vs "fuck shit bitch") I might wait for a few more hits.
 * One of the things I mentioned on IRC recently was that the edit filter merely throws up the same level warning over and over again, not escalating them based on repeated triggers. I'm planning on filing a bug about it (as a feature request), and I think if that could be implemented, it would make the two systems much more comparable. Legoktm (talk) 21:23, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The standard I've dealt with - which is really the standard for AIV - is a level 4 warning, which necessitates that vandalistic edits are actually made. You asked, "Blocks are preventative. If we know (with a specified level of certainty) that they are going to vandalize (and that their intent is to vandalize), isn't a block the right solution?" - the answer is no, unless the level of certainty is 100%. This is because we must always err on the side of letting people edit. Even if vandalism happens, it's rapidly reverted, and no harm is done - but one (admittedly immature) vandal has learned that he can edit Wikipedia - and in ten years, he'll add something useful. That's why we need to go lightly on vandals, IMO. The Cavalry (Message me) 22:06, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I see the difference. If the editor vandalizes the "traditional" way, he hits the save button after each edit, which is promptly reverted by a human or bot, sees the orange banner, ignores it, repeat 4+ times. Now lets say they vandalize today, hit the save button, and see a warning that tells them that their edit is probably vandalism. They try hitting save again, at which point the filter tells them that their edit has been disallowed, repeat 4+ times. There are two major differences in that scenario, first, that it was the software that warned and prevented their edits, not humans. And secondly, their edits never made it to the history, so a human/bot didn't have to revert them. In both cases, the vandal's intentions were exactly the same, and performed the same actions. Why should those two scenarios have different outcomes? That's what I'm not following. Legoktm (talk) 22:27, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Think about it in the context of a prisoner in a police cell: if they keep throwing themselves against the cell door, trying to escape, you don't take any action until they actually break through the door. The edit filter (or cell door) is in itself preventative; until they break through, there's no need to spend admin time on it. Does that make sense? The Cavalry (Message me) 00:29, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand your analogy, but I'm not convinced by it. My first thought would be to just get a better door if you know they will be able to get through it. I'll take some time to think about it. For now I'm only reporting editors who actually breached the door (making an actual edit), BLP violations, or LTAs. Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts. Legoktm (talk) 02:31, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Lists of churches
Talkback at the MWException fatal error section of WP:VP/T. Thanks as always for the help! Nyttend (talk) 05:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like Anomie figured it out! Legoktm (talk) 14:39, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

From AIV

 * I'm referring to edit filter log events as recent as "12:12, 7 December 2012". Legoktm (talk) 12:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * At the time you posted that report, there was ONE edit since May. That's insufficient recent vandalism, yes. KillerChihuahua ?!? 12:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * IOW, your AIV report was declined due to insufficient not due to recent. KillerChihuahua ?!? 12:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that one, I missed that they hadn't actually bypassed the edit filter.
 * Regarding the "Broadway hoaxer" one, that's an LTA (see Long-term abuse/Broadway Hoaxer), and my understanding is you block LTA's on sight, simply because they're long term abuse. If that's not correct, please let me know. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 12:26, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

DOn't leave talkback notices on my talkpage unless I have failed to respond for several days. Did you even bother to read my talk page editnotice? Or the big notice at the top? I'm beginning to wonder if you pause to read any directions, as you are repeatedly failing to follow the clear instructions on AIV and now have ignored utterly my clear editnotice. Slow down and read a little, it is at least as important as doing. Re the rest, I'm not going to waste my time explaining what others have already explained in the section Recent vandalism, above. KillerChihuahua ?!? 12:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I did read your edit notice, and as far as I can see there is nothing about waiting a few days before posting a note. I apologize if that is what you wanted.
 * The AIV instructions don't include info about LTA's nor users given warnings by the edit filter, which show up in logs, but not on their talk page. Legoktm (talk) 12:45, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as the other section goes in relation to this one, I already stated that I messed up on reporting the first one. I also said the second one was an LTA, which was able to bypass the edit filter. I'm not sure what was wrong with that report. Legoktm (talk) 12:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I was polite. Please read it again. It clearly states: If I messaged you on your page, please reply there. If you message me here, I will reply here. There is no need to place a talkback notice if you are replying to me on your page. . DO you think I should rephrase, like Don't spam me with those moronic notices, do me the courtesy of thinking I'm competent enough to watch where I posted to someone"? Do you think that would help? Because you see, I don't. I think if people give a shit, they'll read that and not leave one without me having to spell it out or get nasty. KillerChihuahua 12:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, I didn't follow your editnotice as you had spelled it out. By my count I waited 6 minutes before posting on your talk page. I've seen the damage a LTA can do in only 1 minute and how much resulting time and effort it takes to clean up. I wasn't sure if you had seen the note I left, so I left the note to make sure you would get the banner. I'm sorry if that upset you/pissed you off/etc. That wasn't my intention, I only wanted to make sure a potential LTA was being addressed and taken care of. Legoktm (talk) 13:05, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * You just don't pay attention, do you? The IP was blocked by me for 3 months before I ever posted the first message here. Even if I had not, it might help you to remember the world will not end if something isn't done right this second. Killer Chihuahua 13:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to Special:Contributions/71.183.185.96 which has an empty block log and your comment [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=526854103&oldid=526854094 here]. Legoktm (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hadn't read that essay before, thanks. Legoktm (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, the IP of the still-just-one-edit whom you still haven't warned? Yeah, I'd say we're ok there. He's not exactly destroying Wikipedia, and you failing to follow the instructions on AIV still applies. The essay is legend, like TIGER. I'm glad I linked it; didn't know if you'd read it or not, but thought you probably had and just weren't applying it. Killer Chihuahua 13:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes that one. From what I've always seen, you don't bother warning a LTA per WP:DENY and all that, it's just WP:RBI for them. Seeing as they've probably moved on, that IP is stale now.
 * Nope, I had never read that before. I think its a good expansion on WP:NORUSH and WP:PANIC. Legoktm (talk) 13:43, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, DENY is an essay, and can run a little bit counter to VAND, as VAND calls for clear warnings. The edit isn't clearly enough a marker of a LTV to me to be certain whether the IP is a repeater or someone who just tripped a filter, and given that I prefer to AGF and err on the side of caution, I'm not inclined to pronounce judgment on that IP. It's sometimes like sock investigations. Might be the same person, might be someone who just agrees. Sometimes RI is the best approach. Killer Chihuahua 13:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. As a somewhat tangent, whats your opinion on edit-filter warnings (an example) counting as one of the 4 warnings typically given by humans? It's a bit different since (most of the time) they still have the ability to save the edit, and the warnings don't escalate in severity. I had previously held the opinion that they should be equal, however based on comments from you and the section above, I'm not sure that's a widely held view. Legoktm (talk) 13:59, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I consider Cluebot warnings equal, although they don't escalate and Cluebot makes mistakes. But no, not Abusefilter. Abusefilter is like a Hey, are you SURE you want to do that? It is a caution, not a warning per se. I realize they generally say "warning" but they immediately follow it up with MIGHT be (whatever problem.) It is not the same as "you did wrong" it is "hey, that might be wrong.. not sure... whatevs" You see what I mean? I realize I'm paraphrasing madly here but hopefully you'll catch my drift. Killer Chihuahua 14:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I follow you. I see how that makes sense. How about when the a filter explicitly disallows an edit? The example message shown to users is at MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed. Legoktm (talk) 14:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Then the abusefilter is working and we don't need to do a thing, but it's still not a warning. OTH, if someone attempted three disallowed edits in a row, then managed to get a vandal edit through, I'd probably skip ahead to a level 3 warning, or add the problemIP welcome to their page. Killer Chihuahua 14:29, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, final question (hopefully)! Would you consider blocking a user if kept making edits that were getting disallowed by the filter but wasn't able to make an edit? Take for example a newly registered user who tries to blank an article 10 times by replacing it with "poop" and gets disallowed each time. (Assuming this isnt LTA, obvious sock, etc). Legoktm (talk) 14:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This is someone whose edits aren't getting through, right? It's less of Would I block, than it is Why would anyone bother? The idea of blocking is to prevent damage to the encyclopedia. No damage, no block. Now, if someone else blocked, I wouldn't quibble (more waste of my time and their) unless they made a habit of it, but I'd think they were wasting their time and effort and server load and so on to basically do what we are specifically instructed not to do in the blocking policy; preemptive blocks. You simply are not supposed to do them, it is against policy. (With the exception of open proxies.) And should you ever become an admin here, I advise you not to block preemptively either, for while I may ignore such blocks that may not be the case for everyone, and blocking against policy has led to admins losing their bit, because they're not doing their job correctly. Killer Chihuahua 15:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Gotcha, thanks for the advice. And thanks as well for taking the time to discuss this with me. I really do appreciate it. Legoktm (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, ping me anytime. Always happy to answer reasonable questions. Killer Chihuahua 15:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #35
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 13:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Deployed new code on wikidata.org with a lot of bug fixes and a new Special:EntitiesWithoutLabel (all changes here)
 * http://test2.wikipedia.org now uses Wikidata (click “edit links” at the bottom of the page), and we are working to enable the synchronization of changes to test2 and display links from the repository
 * Added wbsetqualifier API module
 * Added wbremovequalifiers API module
 * New JavaScript wb.Api now used for labels, descriptions, aliases and sitelinks
 * Improved Selenium tests and PHPUnit tests
 * Selenium tests now independent from ULS
 * Selenium tests for statements UI
 * Existing statements can be edited now
 * Filtering anons and Wikidata in RecentChanges on client now works correctly
 * Added extra checks on client RecentChange save point to avoid duplicate entries
 * Started an experimental branch with API methods for claims
 * Link to Commons Media displayed for Snak values of related data type
 * Improved styling of statements in JavaScript mode
 * Improvements in templating engine
 * Started working on adding Statements to existing section of Statements
 * Set up a fresh dev server for testing
 * Discussions/Press
 * Publicity for Wikidata and Wikivoyage
 * “Importing data is hard: a rant about integrating open data projects”
 * Disallowing links to locked wikis
 * Sourcing of every statement
 * Events
 * Foss.in
 * Intro and Q&A in Bangalore
 * WhereCamp Berlin
 * Upcoming: Wikidata talk as part of a lecture on knowledge management, Karlsruhe
 * Announced next office hours
 * Still looking for people/projects to join us for the mass collaboration assembly
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * New mockups for phase 2: 1 and 2
 * New admin notice board
 * “How to Edit Wikidata” presentation by Sven
 * “Working With MediaWiki” has been released. First book to mention Wikidata!
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Give feedback on phase 2 mockups
 * Code on one of these
 * Have a look at Wikidata:Contribute

Tony Evers
I had to revert edits in the Tony Evers article; Evers is seeking reelection for the Wisconsin Superintendent of Public Instruction in the Wisconsin 2013 Spring Election. Thanks-RFD (talk) 00:06, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Watchlisted. Thanks for the heads up. Legoktm (talk) 00:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

AAAAGHH
OH GODS THE BORKENNESS EVERYWHERE SO MUCH BROKENNESS WHY AM I BREAKING EVERYTHING WHAT IS THIS ohai legoktm.

-— Isarra ༆ 06:25, 9 December 2012 (UTC) 

Seriously, though, your talkpage is totally broken with this black skin. Not that that would necessarily be an issue, but there is just so much partially-defined inline css everywhere that I just don't know what to do with it all. -— Isarra ༆ 06:27, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Make me a better one! Now. Legoktm (talk) 06:27, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A better what, wikipedia? Can I replace all the wikipedians? That wouldn't actually help, but it would make making a skin work with the content a lot easier. Less content = less completely stupid style conflicting. So many parsers and templates and html bits everywhere... -— Isarra ༆ 06:29, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A better talk page please. Legoktm (talk) 06:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, you want to be pink, eh? What are you, an uncyclopedian? You should know I went out of the pinkifying other people's userpages business years ago. Like... two years ago. Or possibly one. I dunno; I kind of wandered off at some point and then everything exploded and there was FIRE. FIRE, man. -— Isarra ༆ 06:35, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm re-hiring you. Fire is also acceptable, however it shouldn't slow down page loading time nor affect usability for other editors (blaring colors, etc). Legoktm (talk) 06:43, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * In that case remind me in february. -— Isarra ༆ 07:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit filter/False positives/Reports
Regarding this:
 * Just a suggestion, it might be best to leave hidden filters to Edit Filter Managers as they can see if the filter has been correctly triggered. I am not saying this is the exact case but false positives do happen. Another thing, how do you know the edit was correctly blocked? (this) If you somehow had access to examine the attempted edits (asked someone to look into it), sorry for leaving this message. -- Cheers, Ri l ey   15:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * In order not to stuff means up my nose, I'll PM you on IRC. Legoktm (talk) 23:44, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * You're welcome! Legoktm (talk) 03:44, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

English Defense League have no place on the page
the page is about islam not the english defence league it is totally in-appropriate. so what is the point of it being mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.194.183 (talk) 09:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Why not? The English Defence League is relevant to Islam in the UK and should stay in the article. Legoktm (talk) 09:59, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I did not make any changes in any page i think there might be someone piggybacking on my wi-fi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.41.22 (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

153.110.241.230
The IP is a shared IP used by several people, possibly in more then one country. I'm afraid that there is little use in adding any comments on this IPs talk page. If you believe that the change made should be reverted or edited it's probably best to just do so and then just leave a message on the articles talk page in stead as the user responsible for the edit presumably will revisit the article and possibly also the talk page. At any rate, have a nice day. :-) Yours truly, 153.110.241.230 (talk) 12:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC) unus ex multis

Wikidata weekly summary #36
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 14:47, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Deployed new code on wikidata.org. All changes can be found here
 * Updated demo system
 * http://test2.wikipedia.org now uses http://wikidata.org for getting language links and wikidata.org edits affecting the existing articles on test2 show up in RecentChanges (if they are not hidden)
 * Statements (think of “population: 2.000.000” and similar things) are taking shape in the interface. They are still pretty buggy though at this point.
 * It is now possible to link to images on Wikimedia Commons in a statement (think of “image: sundown_at_the_beach.png” for example)
 * Links are now protocol-relative (42534)
 * No longer possible to create new items and set labels when database is set to read-only
 * Added more tests to the GeoCoordinate parser
 * Make use of EditEntity in removeclaims API
 * Removed many singletons to reduce global state
 * Made SpecialSetLabel work with non-item entities
 * Improved settings system
 * Improved options of ValueFormatters
 * Improved options of ValueParsers
 * Moved label+description uniqueness check out of transaction to avoid deadlocks and changed it to only be enforced for edits changing any violating values
 * Fixed serialization of SiteArray
 * ~=[,,_,,]:3
 * Had to fix reporting of aliases in wbsearchentities again
 * Implemented integration of baserevids for statements UI API calls for editconflict detection for statements/claims/snaks
 * Universal Language Selector fallback fix for Selenium tests
 * Report URL to entity in wbsearchentites API module
 * Moved the demo system to a larger server
 * Fixed several bugs in Statements user interface, most notably, adding Statements to existing sections and layout fixes
 * Added wikibase API module on the client to provide information about the associated repo (e.g. url, script path, article path)
 * A bunch of messages for autocomments were fixed (they are automatically added as an edit summary for edits on items and co in Wikidata - for example: “‎Changed [en] description: Finnish rock band”)
 * Discussions/Press
 * “Wikidata: Summing the sum of human knowledge“
 * Events
 * WhereCamp
 * Wikidata talk as part of a lecture on knowledge management in Karlsruhe
 * upcoming: 29C3
 * upcoming: Office hours
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * More pretty Wikidata artwork
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Want to help Lydia write the next weekly summary? Let her know.
 * Hack on one of these

Hand-coding
Hey all :).

I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at and I'll set you up with an account :).

If you'd like to chat with us about the research, or want live tutoring on the software, there will be an office hours session on Monday 17 December at 23:00 UTC in. Hope to see some of you there! Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:23, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

2012112110012332
FYI, I've nominated the image covered by this ticket for deletion since their release was Wikipedia only. You can see the brief discussion so far at File talk:Vicky Beeching Headshot.jpg. Should you get a new email for this ticket, now you know who to blame. ^_^ VernoWhitney (talk) 00:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I re-looked at this ticket, and I probably shouldn't have approved it since it didnt meet the NFCC. Thanks for taking action on it. Legoktm (talk) 09:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Articles with missing files
Good luck with the exams! When you are back can you clean out the errant articles in Category:Articles with missing files? Ta. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:06, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll start the bot up now. Legoktm (talk) 17:15, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #37
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
 * Development
 * Deployed fix for 42956 on wikidata.org that caused problems when using the site in French in Firefox
 * Updated demo system
 * Fixed some bugs in wbsearchentities
 * Removed empty aliases structure from wbsearchentities
 * Heavy Selenium testing of statements UI
 * Improved overall usability and responsiveness of the statements UI
 * Implemented remove functionality for statements in the UI
 * Refactored and added tests for language links handler in the client
 * Bug fixes in the client
 * Improved SiteLinkTable class in WikibaseLib and added tests
 * Started work to improve AbuseFIlter integration
 * Added logic to find all referenced entities for a given set of claims
 * Added serialization of referenced claims to output of entity pages
 * Diff Extension: Split off diffing code from MapDiff and ListDiff to dedicated Differ classes
 * Diff Extension: Added dedicated patcher classes, which are used for the getApplicableDiff functionality
 * Discussions/Press
 * Representing values 1 2 (including a prototype to try out the current state of discussions)
 * "Wikidata: People And Bots Busy Filling The System In Phase One"
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 * Wikidata talk as part of a lecture on knowledge management in Karlsruhe
 * upcoming: 29C3
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Announced the expected date for deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia
 * Wikidata has been added to the Wikimedia stats site
 * Video of the Wikidata talks at Wikimania 2012 is online now
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Have a great holiday season!

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2012 Delhi gang rape case
Could you please review this article once again, as I have merged my article with his one. I don't think that it is a stub category article. Regards,  theTigerKing   12:38, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, much better. Awesome job! Legoktm (talk) 06:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply at VPT
Here. I haven't heard anything at User talk:Mr.Z-man yet. And this page still says the same thing. Any ideas on when the Toolserver page will be fixed, or is this page controlled by Mr.Z.-man? I don't know hardly anything about Toolserver. How might I ask someone who knows more about Toolserver? Thanks! Biosthmors (talk) 18:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2012
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Bot request for MILHIST showcase updates
A quick question: did you ever get the chance to finish setting up Legobot to update the MILHIST showcase pages (see User talk:Kirill Lokshin/Archive 14)? It's not urgent by any stretch of the imagination, obviously; but if it's not something you'll have time for in the near future, then we could potentially try to set something up with JL-Bot instead. In any case, please let me know your thoughts. Cheers! Kirill [talk] 01:11, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. I was able to get it done, I just never scheduled it to run. Unfortunately I won't have access to a computer until after new years, so I can do it then. Legoktm (talk) 02:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That's good to hear; thanks again for all of your help on this! Kirill [talk] 21:43, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #38
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">''Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. It's rather short this time because pretty much everyone enjoys some well-deserved vacation.'' <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 19:47, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Some of us unwrapped gifts (-:
 * Started working on supporting different kinds of Snaks in the user interface
 * Fixing support for PostgreSQL in core, which was broken with introduction of the sites stuff
 * Code reviewing of changes in MediaWiki core
 * Adding watchlist filter in client for Wikidata changes
 * Discussions/Press
 * Ranking of Items
 * Events
 * right now: 29C3
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