User talk:Legoktm/December 2022

Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Eddie891 · Euryalus · TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex.muller · Excirial · RedWordSmith · Ron Ritzman · TheresNoTime · Stephen

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
 * The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
 * An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

Technical news
 * A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget.

Arbitration
 * Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
 * The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
 * A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add  to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-49
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikisources use a tool called ProofreadPage. ProofreadPage uses OpenSeadragon which is an open source tool. The OpenSeadragon JavaScript API has been significantly re-written to support dynamically loading images. The functionality provided by the older version of the API should still work but it is no longer supported. User scripts and gadgets should migrate over to the newer version of the API. The functionality provided by the newer version of the API is documented on MediaWiki.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

AfD Closure
Hi there, you closed Articles for deletion/Gwaun Troed-rhiw-seiri a Llyn Mynydd-gorddu as no consensus, which, on the one hand, is understandable because there were no other !votes expressed at all, but on the other hand I find deeply frustrating. I attempted to PROD this and a PROD patroller deprodded it without any good reason, but then did not participate in the deletion discussion. Then, because it had been prodded, it seems it is ineligible for soft delete at AfD? But this means that deprodding of articles armours them, which surely is not the intent of the policy. There is almost nothing on that page. The title (as explained) shows that it is not one place but two, neither notable. The only commentator tacitly admits there is no information out there to develop an article. Surely this is a case where WP:SILENCE is a consensus, and the nominator's rationale should hold sway?

So, what to do now? Do I nominate it again? Should I take to deletion review? Can I PROD it again? Or should I just bold redirect the page? What would be your advice as to how to clean this up? Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:03, 6 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Sirfurboy, I can totally see how this is frustrating. PROD can only be used once, so once the tag was removed, it is ineligible for PROD and soft deletion ever again (so it's effectively armored from a single editor unilaterally getting it deleted). That's mostly why I don't think WP:SILENCE would apply here, because someone has objected by removing the PROD.
 * My recommendation would be to just wait 2-3 months and if the situation hasn't changed, nominate it again. I can't think of any reason why boldly redirecting would be inappropriate, so that's an option too. Legoktm (talk) 16:40, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you for your time and advice. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:24, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for 2022 University of California academic workers' strike
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Sakkiliyar
Can you relist WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 24 unless you have strong opinion that it should have been deleted? Jay 💬 02:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Jay: no strong opinions, ✅. Legoktm (talk) 02:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It would have been good to let another admin close this, as nothing has changed since the last close, unless you have a stronger rationale to delete this time. I'm not contesting this, but you can enhance your closing statement with the rationale. Jay  💬 08:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I clearly didn't spend enough time reading it before closing as I both forgot that this is the one we had already discussed, and I glossed over your comment. I've left it for someone else to close. Legoktm (talk) 08:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-50
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Recent changes
 * An A/B test has begun at 15 Wikipedias for DiscussionTools on mobile. Half of the editors on the mobile web site will have access to the  tool and other features.
 * The character  cannot be used in new usernames, to make usernames work better with templates. Existing usernames are not affected.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The HTML markup used by DiscussionTools to show discussion metadata below section headings will be inserted after these headings, not inside of them. This change improves the accessibility of discussion pages for screen reader software.

Events
 * The fourth edition of the Coolest Tool Award will happen online on Friday 16 December 2022 at 17:00 UTC! The event will be live-streamed on YouTube in the MediaWiki channel and added to Commons afterwards.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:32, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your reversion on WP:Alternative outlets
I read the edit summary for this reversion, it says "we don't recommend this site run by WMF-banned users" or something like that. This begs two questions: 36.72.46.16 (talk) 01:25, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * What the WMF-banned user(s) are responsible for running Miraheze?
 * Isn't it unacceptable to remove or in this case, revert the addition of the site on alternate outlets page just because it is ran by WMF-banned users?


 * This has been previously discussed, e.g. m:Talk:Interwiki_map/Archives/2019. If someone isn't welcome here for very good reasons, I don't see why we'd intentionally direct other people their way. Legoktm (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree with the removal. The essay only includes websites that we recommend. Listing, say, Quora doesn't mean that Quora is excellent in every regard (far from it; Wikipedia isn't perfect in every regard either), but it's a popular, not a marginal, website, with much good content. Therefore it can be recommended. Including or not a mention of Miraheze in the essay rests on consensus, now that it has been disputed. Those who advocate inclusion can start a discussion that can lead to such a consensus. From my angle, the site is marginal and not worthy of a recomendation. —Alalch E. 14:46, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

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Tech News
 * Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 9 January 2023.

Recent changes
 * On a user's contributions page, you can filter it for edits with a tag like 'reverted'. Now, you can also filter for all edits that are not tagged like that. This was part of a Community Wishlist 2022 request.
 * Octicons-tools.svg A new function has been used for gadget developers to add content underneath the title on article pages. This is considered a stable API that should work across all skins. Documentation is available.
 * Octicons-tools.svg One of our test wikis is now being served from a new infrastructure powered by Kubernetes (read more). More Wikis will switch to this new infrastructure in early 2023. Please test and let us know of any issues.

Problems
 * Last week, all wikis had no edit access for 9 minutes. This was caused by a database problem.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.
 * The word "" is very short in some languages, such as Arabic (" ردّ "). This makes the button on talk pages difficult to use. An arrow icon will be added to those languages. This will only be visible to editors who have the Beta Feature turned on.

Future changes
 * Edits can be automatically "tagged" by the system software or the system. Those tags link to a help page about the tags. Soon they will also link to Recent Changes to let you see other edits tagged this way. This was a Community Wishlist 2022 request.
 * The Trust & Safety tools team have shared new plans for building the Private Incident Reporting System. The system will make it easier for editors to ask for help if they are harassed or abused.
 * Realtime Preview for Wikitext is coming out of beta as an enabled feature for every user of the 2010 Wikitext editor in the week of January 9, 2023. It will be available to use via the toolbar in the 2010 Wikitext editor. The feature was the 4th most popular wish of the Community Wishlist Survey 2021.

Events
 * You can now register for the Wikimedia Hackathon 2023, taking place on May 19–21 in Athens, Greece. You can also apply for a scholarship until January 14th.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:58, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, Lego!

The other day, I was having a conversation with someone about holiday cards and social media. It occurred to me that, in the years since I left Facebook, the site I use most to communicate with people I like isn't actually a social media site at all. If you're receiving this, it's pretty likely I've talked with you more recently than I have my distant relatives and college friends on FB, at very least, and we may have even collaborated on something useful. So here's a holiday "card", Wikipedia friend. :) Hope the next couple weeks bring some fun and/or rest. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 18:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Rhododendrites: same to you! Looking forward to more collaborations in 2023 :) Legoktm (talk) 03:10, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights
-- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)