User talk:Legoktm/February 2013

Adminship
Hi Legoktm! Are you by any chance interested in running for adminship? I noticed you while patrolling CAT:CSD and from my quick look it seems you are more than ready. If you like I can do a more in-depth review of your contribs, and if everything looks good, I can nominate you. Let me know what you think. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Go for it Lego. You've got my support.— cyberpower ChatLimited Access 14:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I had already talked to a few other editors about doing an RfA rather soon, I guess I'll go poke them again. Though if you do have some free time and are willing to take a look, I would appreciate it :)
 * And thanks Cyber :) Legoktm (talk) 18:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, the kerfluffle about username policy would lead to an "oppose" from me right now (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Kerflufle about username policy? When?— cyberpower ChatOnline 22:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * See above. He answered a helpme totally wrong, got a new editor totally mixed up ... they ended up filing an RFC/N which meant a lot more work for others.  Basics like the username policy are, like, basic. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 23:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Admins aren't expected to be perfect... I wonder how many admins are aware that email addresses are no longer permitted. --Rschen7754 00:14, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Just going to footnote that even though I've been an admin for over 7 years, I still have to glance over policies a lot of the time (especially considering that several came well after I passed RFA). What matters more is how an admin responds to a mistake, in my book. As long as they have proved themselves reasonably competent, we don't expect perfection; we expect admins to be teachable. --Rschen7754 08:08, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, admins who don't learn from their mistakes are what are bad. Everyone makes mistakes, basic, complex, large, small... it's a wiki. We fix them, we learn, we move on, and we do not bite people for honest mistakes when they are acting in good faith, even if they broke the entire site. It's only if they don't learn that it becomes an issue, which is why it's also good to see a potential candidate make mistakes ahead of time so we have some idea if that's going to happen when it can really matter. -— Isarra ༆ 08:45, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hence the words "right now" at the end of my sentence. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:09, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And yet the matter in question was already handled, and relatively well, I'd say. -— Isarra ༆ 18:07, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * @Bwilkins: I'm sorry a mistake like that would lead to an oppose from you. I wasn't aware that my mistake led to more work by others, if there's anyway I can reduce that please let me know. At least one positive thing came out of all of that, I spent a good amount of time reading and re-reading the username policy the other day, so I can safely say I won't make a mistake like that again :) Legoktm (talk) 07:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi! You've got mail. :) — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 11:40, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello again. Did you have a think about what I said in that email? Let me know what conclusion you come to. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 08:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been a bit busy IRL. Responded back. Legoktm (talk) 12:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Hegins

 * Hegins, Pennsylvania

Hello, when you say not available to anyone else, does this mean, no one can view them? Sorry I'm still new at this, just making sure. Do I need another reference? Thanks for the input. βrỴḇṛỹ1999 (talk) 10:28, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok I figured it out, I believe you were meaning, that my reference just went to the home page, but then you had to search from there. I figured it out. βrỴḇṛỹ1999 (talk) 10:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup, thanks for fixing it :) Legoktm (talk) 12:32, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Question
What's Wikimedia I? A google search didn't turn up anything for me. Also the noticeboard is designed to support English Wikipedia requests for WMF attention/collaboration, not Wikimedia in whole. Biosthmors (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It's the Wikimedia mailing list, see [//lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l this] for more info. Legoktm (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's only for the english Wikipedia, would you propose also having one on every other language and project that the WMF community liaisons would need to follow as well? -— Isarra ༆ 07:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #43
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 13:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Deployment on the Hebrew and Italian Wikipedia
 * Switched the Wikipedias over to a new, more scalable dispatching changes script for propagating changes from the repository to the clients
 * Fixing various deeply buried bugs and a few minor bugs reported after deployment
 * Preparations for next deployment on wikidata.org
 * Working on property parser function for the client
 * Implemented robust serialization of changes for dispatching
 * Resumed work on linked data interface
 * References can now be created, edited and removed on existing statements
 * Several minor user interface fixes
 * Styling of the user interface for statements
 * Selenium tests for references
 * Selenium tests for non-JS SpecialPages
 * Worked on puppet
 * Discussions/Press
 * Abuse filter guidelines
 * Policy on properties
 * First external tool for output in RDF: and
 * Running your own instance of Wikibase (for science!)
 * Events
 * We’ve set the date for the next office hours
 * upcoming: FOSDEM
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Admin reconfirmation is still ongoing
 * Deployment of first parts of phase 2 on wikidata.org are planned for February 4 and deployment on English Wikipedia for February 11. See this blog post for details and more dates.
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Test statements on the [demo system before the roll-out to wikidata.org on February 4
 * Hack on one of these

The Signpost: 04 February 2013

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Bots project on Labs
Hello, Legoktm. I want to join the Bots project and you are a member of it. A simple reason can be found here. Would you please add me to the project? Thanks. -- Make  cat  06:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

WMLabs Tag
Thanks for that WMLabs Cluster tag at User:VoxelBot Legoktm... just being helpful as usual. Didn't even know it existed. Vaca tion  9  02:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

CCI update
-- Wizardman 04:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #44
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 16:08, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Deployment of the first parts of phase 2 (infoboxes/statements) on wikidata.org done - see it live for example here, here and here
 * Diffs for statement edits can now be shown
 * Started work on query definitions
 * Edit links are now disabled in the interface when the user does not have the rights to edit
 * Edit links are now hidden when viewing old revision
 * Worked on search field for WikibaseSolr
 * More work on Lua templates for Wikibase entities
 * Worked on bugfixes in the statement user interface
 * New features in the statement user interface (references counter/heading)
 * JavaScript editing for table showing labels and description of the same item in different languages
 * Repaired and updated the demo system
 * Resumed work on Linked Data interface
 * Support for enhanced recent changes format in client
 * There are automatic comments for statement edits as well in the history now
 * Special page for unconnected pages, that is pages on the client that are not connected to items on the repository
 * Added permission checks for statements, so a user that can not edit will not be able to edit or that only a group can be allowed to do some changes like creating statements
 * Discussions/Press
 * Signpost
 * Lots of discussions about the usage details and policies of phase 2 on d:Wikidata:Project chat
 * Events
 * FOSDEM
 * upcoming: office hour (English; German later)
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Deployment of phase 1 (language links) on the English language Wikipedia is still planned for Monday late evening UTC (pending a performance review)
 * List of existing properties and their usage
 * List of new proposed properties
 * Open Tasks for You
 * d:User:PinkAmpersand is looking for someone to write a script that once someone has been made an autopatroller, retroactively patrols all of their prior edits
 * d:Wikidata:Press coverage could use some love and care
 * Hack on one of these

Help me
Hi! I could use some help. I just got a message from someone who said I've been over-linking. Here's a page for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mary%27s_Anglican_Girls%27_School What are the rules or guidelines for linking? I thought I should link people in case a page is made for them later on but I wasn't sure.

Thank you.

TheWisestOfFools (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


 * The guideline you're looking for is Red link. In a nutshell, you are encouraged to make red links when you intend to write a new article on a notable subject, or when you feel a subject is notable enough that someone else will create the article.  There are other important parts of that guideline that you may also want to read.  Hope this helps. –  P AINE E LLSWORTH  C L I M A X !  01:08, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Stendan
I've taken your warnings off the author's page, and GB fan has restored the article. It's very unlikely that characters from Hollyoaks would sue us for libel. It wasn't very clear in the article that this was about a soap opera, however. I've prodded it as being unencyclopaedic (if it's a real plot line) or made up (if it hasn't appeared on screen). Peridon (talk) 13:42, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata is here; please disable any interwiki bots on the English Wikipedia
Thanks for the info, i update my bot quickly --GdGourou - °o°  -  Talk to me  10:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome thanks :) Legoktm (talk) 10:52, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems that my bot has updated automatically and stopped working on interwikis here. Thanks for your notification. -- Make  cat  02:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! Legoktm (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Legoktm, I saw your note on the user talk pages for two or three bots, . I don't think is aware, because I just came across . -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I notified User:Masti on their [//pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dyskusja_wikipedysty%3AMasti&diff=34734651&oldid=34708694 plwiki talk page] (most were contacted on a different project, see [//en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=538203440 this list]). If the bot is actively causing problems, I would block it, but from a quick glance this doesn't seem to be the case. In the note I sent around, I said we would start blocking on Saturday (11 hours from now), however there is some relevant discussion on WP:BON about what interwiki tasks are still needed. Legoktm (talk) 13:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I've been threatened
Future Perfect at Sunrise has threatened to block me if I edit a word he doesn't like. In other words, it's ok for some people to edit an article as many times as they want and threaten others who change it, but when I ask him not to threaten me, then I'M the one who threatens????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitrakana (talk • contribs) 14:18, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You created a category called Category:Stop harassing the site, effectively saying FPaS is harrassing you, when s/he isn't (WP:Harassment). They gave you a legitimate warning for edit warring. You should read WP:EW and use the talk page to discuss your changes before making them. Legoktm (talk) 14:20, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #45
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 21:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Deployment to English Wikipedia
 * Fix various minor bugs in client, including watchlist toggle with preference to default to always show Wikidata edits
 * Added the new Baso Minangkabau Wikipedia (min)
 * Fixed wrong revision of statements being shown in diff and old revision view
 * Diff visualization for claims (simple version for main snak)
 * Diff visualization for claims (extended version for references, qualifiers, ranks)
 * Tooltip that notifies about the license your contributions will be covered by while editing (can be disabled by each user)
 * Started with valueview refactoring
 * Started with user interface handling of deleted properties
 * Started with refactoring of local partial entity lookup
 * Started with refactoring of toolbar usage in jQuery.wikibase view widgets
 * Finished improvement on jQuery.wikibase.claimview’s edit mode handling
 * Improved search by using entity selector in search field instead of normal MediaWiki search field
 * More work on Lua-based templates for entities
 * Specified the capabilities of the query language we need
 * Created query object
 * Proper bot-flagging of edits (44857)
 * Use of ID to directly address an item or property
 * Search should give more of the complete matches now
 * Special:ItemByTitle should work for canonical namespaces and later on for local namespaces
 * More robust format for notifications of changes on the repository to the client
 * Started work on refactoring API and autocomments code
 * Started to maintain documentation of configuration options in git
 * Discussions/Press
 * List of currently existing properties
 * Proposals for new properties
 * Events
 * Upcoming: Wikipedia Day NYC
 * Upcoming: office hour in English tomorrow
 * Note: changed day of next German office hour to March 8
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * We have a time scheduled when Wikidata will be read-only for a database migration. The window for that is Feb 20 19:00 to Feb 21 2:00 UTC.
 * New features and bugfixes on Wikidata are planned to be deployed on Monday (Feb 18). This should among other things include:
 * Showing useful diffs for edits of claims (they’re currently empty)
 * Automatic comments for editing of claims (there are currently none)
 * Ability to add items to claims by their ID
 * Better handling of deleted properties
 * More results in the entity selector (that’s the thing that lets you select properties, items and so on) so you can add everything and not just the first few matches that are shown
 * We’re still working on the issue that sometimes editing of certain parts of items or properties isn’t possible. If you’re running into it try to reload the page and/or change the URL to the www. version or the non-www. version respectively.
 * Deployment on all other Wikipedias is currently planned for March 6 (a note to the Village Pumps of all affected projects will follow soon)
 * Check out a well-done item
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Help expand en:Wikipedia:Wikidata
 * Help expand and translate Wikidata/Deployment Questions
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Legobot on bots-nr1
Dear Lego. I noticed that you added a legobot to bots-nr1. Last time, on bots-3, there was an issue with your bot and my bots fighting for memory (well, your bot was eating it all :-/, which was the reason to move my bots to another instance ...), and I have also noticed some strange crashes on bots-nr1 lately, and I did not find a real cause.

Can you inform me of the next couple of times that your bot will run (mine run continuous) - I'd like to see where the issue is (whether it is my bots which are the problem, or whether .. we are incompatible on the same instance).

Hope to hear from you. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:35, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Dirk, right now none of my bots are running on nr1 because of a weird issue with my python-virtualenv (I don't think they've run at all actually). The script that was an issue on bots-3 is staying on bots-3 since it hasn't brought down the instance again, nor do I have time to fix it. All the scripts that I copied over to nr1 are very simple, and should be less than 10 minutes of run time. I usually try and keep User:Legobot/cron up to date, so that should give you an idea when my scripts will run (after I fix the virtualenv issue). Legoktm (talk) 13:49, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
 * OK .. so it is something else (memory leak somewhere in my bots ..?). Thanks for the link to the cron, I'll see if I see a match there if and when it happens again.  Cheers.  --Dirk Beetstra T  C 06:19, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Notice to talk page stalkers: New tool
I have been working on a new tool, wikidata/checker.py. It takes a "Q##" as input, and gives information whether it is ok to remove the langlinks. It can even detect if the local link is a redirect pointing to the wikidata one. An example is [//toolserver.org/~legoktm/cgi-bin/wikidata/checker.py?id=Q1 Q1], which states that Legobot will automatically process the page (this doesn't work yet). If you look at [//toolserver.org/~legoktm/cgi-bin/wikidata/checker.py?id=Q42 Q42], it says the page has been migrated to Wikidata. [//toolserver.org/~legoktm/cgi-bin/wikidata/checker.py?id=Q8454 Q8454] has errors, and are highlighted in red.

Please treat it gently for now, it hasn't been optimized yet. It's quite possible it has bugs, if you do find any, please report them :) Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 15:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 February 2013
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Question
You were trying to help me with the CSDHelper - mind coming back to my talk page and answering the Q there? Thanks much! Killer Chihuahua 21:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata and the WP:EN article Enclave and exclave
Hi. I've been experimenting with Wikidata, adding various statements and correcting interwiki links were necessary. But I've come across an issue with the WP:EN article Enclave and exclave, which covers two linked concepts in one article. This makes it very hard to provide links for the Wikidata concepts of enclave and exclave, especially as Wikidata does not appear to let me set up interwiki links pointing at redirect pages. I've discused this further at Talk:Enclave and exclave, mostly from the perspective of whether we should demerge the article. As somebody who seems to be involved in the integration of Wikidata and WP:EN, you may like to comment there. -- chris_j_wood (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sadly this is more common of a problem than it seems. If I have some extra time today (I doubt it : I'll try and take a look. Legoktm (talk) 18:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you
For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. I appreciate it. :) Greengreengreen  red  02:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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