User talk:Legoktm/January 2013

OTRS permission tags
Hi. :) Thanks for documenting the permission for Gene expression programming at Copyright problems/2012 October 14. I just wanted to let you know that the permission tag you placed on the article's talk page - PermissionOTRS - is for file pages. It doesn't include mention of the source, so it's not really usable for article talk pages. (Files name their source in the file description, of course.) ConfirmationOTRS was designed for article talk pages. It includes parameters to name the source and also identify which license applies. I've changed the template out, but just wanted to make the distinction for future reference. :) (And happy New Year!) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:52, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I wasn't aware of that template, thanks. I'll try and go back through a few other talk pages I might have used that template on. Legoktm (talk) 08:34, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #39
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 21:37, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Updates for selenium testenvironments (browsers, ruby, selenium-tools)
 * Extended tests for statements user interface
 * Refactored snakview user interface to handle other property-snak types than PropertyValueSnak
 * Layout improvements in the user interface
 * Several minor bugfixes in the user interface
 * Updated Vagrant for Wikidata
 * More work on AbuseFilter
 * Deployed new version of Wikibase and MediaWiki core to wikidata.org and test2.wikipedia (bugfixes - all Wikibase changes here)
 * Fix for bug 43595 which was seen on Wednesday during attempted deployment of the wmf7 version of MediaWiki core. Thanks Marius!
 * Discussions/Press
 * Created prototypes for parsing coordinates and time in Wikidata that need feedback
 * Bureaucrat support requirements
 * Defining administrators
 * Events
 * 29C3
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * We’ve reached item ID 2.000.000
 * You can now enable the SitelinkCheck gadget in your preferences that makes it easier to check if a certain link is already in use in an existing item
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Give feedback on prototypes for parsing time and coordinates
 * Help translate the client extension (especially to Hungarian in light of the upcoming deployment)
 * Hack on one of these

Running reports that make direct database queries on the toolserver
Hi Legoktm, you seem to be very bot-savvy, I'm hoping you can shed light on something. A project I'm doing some work for (WP:MEDICINE) would like to be able to write and customize its own reports. We've been using Mr.Z-man's popular pages report on the Toolserver, but we'd like to customize it further. Z-man's code is publicly available but it makes direct database calls and of course it's no use to run remotely. I see the instructions on how to ask for a Toolserver account. Do you have any more info on this process? Can just anyone who asks for a Toolserver account get one? Anything else one should know? (Is this even your area of interest or expertise?) Cheers... 05:08, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Essentially the toolserver roots/WMDE decide who gets a Toolserver account. AFAIK the criteria are being able to use the resources, and trustworthy enough not to violate any of the rules. If you know what you're doing, getting an account would be really beneficial. Otherwise, it might be easier to find a WP:MEDICINE user to run the queries for you. If you do need some help, I can try and point you in the right direction, but I don't think I would have enough time to help run queries for you. Hope this helps, Legoktm (talk) 17:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Working out the details at Today's article for improvement
The RFC for TAFI is nearing it's conclusion, and it's time to hammer out the details over at the project's talk page. There are several details of the project that would do well with wider input and participation, such as the article nomination and selection process, the amount and type of articles displayed, the implementation on the main page and other things. I would like to invite you to comment there if you continue to be interested in TAFI's development. -- Nick Penguin ( contribs ) 02:45, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #40
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 16:23, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Bene* developed a new tool to show existing or missing items for a given Wikipedia category
 * Selenium test-groups for (non)experimental features (43828)
 * Notification for IP edits that IP will be logged (42954)
 * Verified fix & added Selenium tests for broken error-reporting on label/description uniqueness constraint (43301)
 * Label-edit-button links to Special:SetLabel when JavaScript disabled (43814)
 * Updated PHP, MySQL, Ruby, Selenium, etc.. on internal test server and enabled APC + memcached
 * Work on AbuseFilter to make it work with Wikidata content (42064)
 * Implemented length constraint for labels, descriptions and aliases (configurable with a default of 2500 UTF8 characters)
 * Implementing a new mechanism for dispatching change notifications to client wikis
 * Worked more on how Wikidata changes are handled in the client watchlist (43124)
 * Some work went into using Solr for the search. Still very simple
 * Prepared improvements to our puppet files on labs
 * Worked on statements UI (snaktypes/references)
 * Fixed bugs in UI event handling of widgets
 * Put EntityId parsing code into a dedicated class
 * Finished EntityDiff cleanup
 * Discussions/Press
 * Reworked inclusion syntax completely 1 2
 * Updates to time and space model
 * Is there a need for bureaucrats?
 * Planned improvement to the search field
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia is still planned for Monday (Jan 14th)
 * Jens writes a bit about Wikidata’s mascots
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Give feedback on inclusion syntax draft version 3, the updated time and space model and the plans for improving the search field
 * Hack on one of these

Important
Hey I know this is completely off topic but if i copy and paste a part of a wiki article into my essay and include reference is it still plagiarizing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobby55412 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably. This article has more information and can give you a better answer. Legoktm (talk) 05:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Start date
Just curious: would you mind requesting approval for the Start date bot request for Infobox NRHP? What opposition exists was either opposition to the concept (Doncram) or someone telling us to get approval before deploying this microformat (Hellknowz), and since community consensus supported deploying the microformat, neither one is particularly relevant. Thanks for all of your bot-coding work! Nyttend (talk) 05:59, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I haven't been able to follow all the discussion on the botreq, so I would like to read through that and the RfC's just to make sure I'm not missing anything and up to speed on everything.
 * As it stands, I have the code written for the first stage (wrapping just years with the template), and I'd like to implement the month part too before going ahead and requesting approval.
 * I'd also like to have the bot scan the database dump to reduce server load, however that should be easy to implement. Legoktm (talk) 07:41, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Mark a lot of pages for microformatting
May I remind you about WP:BOTREQ? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * See above. I'll try and get to it by the end of the week. Legoktm (talk) 17:45, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry; I missed that. And thank you. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Nudge ;-) Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:51, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry, the semester just started and I'm rather busy right now trying to get some of my existing tasks back online. This is rather low on my priorities list right now, so it will be a while until I can get to it. If you would like it done sooner rather than later, it might be worth getting another bot op to take it on. :/ Legoktm (talk) 17:55, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

What stats
restoring ITN template, used for stats, etc ? What stats? - You  really  can  08:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The most obvious one: how many pages have been on the ITN section. I'm not sure why it's an advantage to not have it there though. Legoktm (talk) 17:57, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Bot treats
Thanks for your help emptying that stub category with Legobot. Please give it these treats for me. delldot  &nabla;.  03:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem! :) Legoktm (talk) 17:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Simple English proposal at the Pump
Hello,

As one of the participants in the Bot Request about getting the Simple Wiki to the top of the Languages, you are invited to participate in the reopened discussion of the same. Your feedback will be appreciated.

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:00, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, I commented there. Legoktm (talk) 17:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #41
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 15:53, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * We are live on the Hungarian Wikipedia \o/
 * We have an intern for a week, Marius aka User:Hoo man. He’ll be working on the wizard for linking a new Wikipedia article to an existing item or creating a new item for it if none exists yet. (the first two stories here)
 * Refactored sites code to improve design
 * Changed item datatype to use entityid as datavalue rather than string
 * Added lots of new Selenium tests
 * Changed AbuseFilter so Wikibase can hook into it
 * Implemented new change dispatcher script
 * ~=[,,_,,]:3
 * Working on combining successive changes to avoid watchlist clutter
 * Claims error handling (i.e. they now show error messages when needed)
 * Implemented initial version of Solr-based search for Wikidata in extension WikibaseSolr
 * Started investigating use of Lua/Scribunto for the Wikibase client
 * Updated the Wikidata Vagrant development machine
 * Improved the setup via puppet on Labs
 * Discussions/Press
 * Latest updates on time and coordinate datatypes
 * Schedule for the reconfirmation of the first round of admins
 * RFC on en:wp about the transition to language links from Wikidata
 * Signpost, among others, covers the deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Congrats to our sister Wikivoyage on their official launch
 * There’s now a manual for using the Pywikipediabot on Wikidata
 * Deployed new code on wikidata.org
 * Community Portal got a rework
 * Tried to drop www from Wikidata URLs but that was more difficult than expected. Sorry for the issues it caused. We're working on resolving the remaining ones.
 * Open Tasks for You
 * d:Wikidata:Press coverage needs some love and attention
 * Hack on one of these

Navbox rationales
Is there a way to tweak the bot so it auto-reviews these?

http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?categories=Non-free+images+for+NFUR+review&ns%5B6%5D=1&templates_any=Navbox

which in many cases have perfectly valid NFUR Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey
I saw your recent edit where you removed the https prefix on some URLS and you mentioned protocol-relative links. Will this always work? I'm often annoyed when I see padlocked diffs that go to a URL beginning with 'https://'. Your scheme may avoid the issue and allow everyone to have what they want. If it's safe to do so I would start submitting diffs in protocol-relative form wherever diffs are expected. Is this documented anywhere? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:04, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup, it'll always work since the protocol is actually chosen by your browser. I found MediaWiki_1.18 which explains it well. Legoktm (talk) 19:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Article feedback
Hi. Thanks for opening and advertising Requests for comment/Article feedback; I appreciate it. :-) And I hope you post a view of your own, if you feel up to it. I'm interested in your thoughts on the future of this tool. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'm nearly done with drafting it and will post shortly :) Legoktm (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas (2)
  "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,   I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."  Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)  Moe Epsilon is wishing you a  Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

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Legoktm (talk) 11:53, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Uncyclopedia
Hey boss,

Have a slight issue with this article, as you're aware, which you may be able to help with. Recently “Uncyclopedia” has split into two different entities. As a very quick history lesson: Which has meant that the community at the “new” domain is trying to pimp out their own variant of it, while the community at the “old” domain has been trying to keep their existing status alive. This has led to some more hawkish elements trying to create competition between the two. I'm definitely not impartial - neither is K7L(?), Isarra, Aimsplode, or numerous others who I've had edit wars on this article with in the past. But I'm trying to find an agreeable compromise where both domains are equally reflected. With the exception of me mistyping the URI of the new domain, I'd been trying to have the links relating back to both. I had changed back the sources to where they had originally been linked as well.
 * Site was originally opened at Uncyclopedia.org
 * Domain was purchased by Wikia a few years back, and had been moved over to Wikia servers piecemeal, so that the original site closed and became Uncyclopedia.wikia.com
 * The community has recently forked, so that there is almost identical content at Wikia sub-domain, and en.uncyclopedia.co

While this secondary aspect is unimportant - and fairness suggests that having half go one way and half go the other, as they lead to equally viable sources - having both domains reflected in the info box and in the “external links” section is relevant. And given the content of both sites is near identical, and both have a claim to being Uncyclopedia - because they both are - stripping this page of one or the other URI is inaccurate. Alexa doesn't help in determining which is more “popular” as the newer domain has only been in place for a short period (realistically only a fortnight since it has been “open”), and the older domain reflects the entirety of wikia.com, of which Uncyclopedia is 1.10% of the total.

I want to have as little as possible to do with keeping the Wikipedia entry accurate and equitable. But as there is an active element trying to remove all links to the Wikia sub-domain from every source possible and replace it with the newer domain, being inactive on this means allowing in accuracy and inconsistency to become part of the page relating back to the twin communities. And create two separate entries for this page is ridiculous at this stage.

Can I rely upon the Wikipedian community to come to an agreeable compromise on this - ideally those that have no vested interest in one side of the other, and maintain the page as NPOV as possible? If so, I'm happy to walk away and leave it in your capable hands.

As an aside - do you have a semi-automated method by which I can go through the Wikia based site and remove all hard-coded links written as “ http://Uncyclopedia.wikia.com… ” with “ [{{fullurl:… ”? Your coding knowledge and ability to create a decent bot is obviously superior to mine. PuppyOnTheRadio  talk   —Preceding undated comment added 23:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately I'm a tad busy right now, so I think it's best if you re-post this (preferably in an abbreviated version :P) on Talk:Uncyclopedia under what K7L wrote. A third opinion has been requested, so hopefully that will be able to resolve the dispute as well.
 * As far as your bot question is, yes, you could probably look into using replace.py combined with Special:LinkSearch, however I would caution with doing an automated mass-replacement since it can interfere with system messages, javascript, and other things. Legoktm (talk) 09:11, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

A starbarn for you!

 * You're welcome :) Legoktm (talk) 09:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Pending edits!
Do they count "rejecting pending edits" too under 3RR? And can you give me the coding guide of freenode chat (how to ping someone etc)?--Tito Dutta (talk) 12:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm. I would probably say yes, since it technically makes an edit. I suppose one way around that is simply not to approve it :P
 * IRC/Tutorial has some helpful information. To ping someone you can just type their username, so right now mine is "duh", so just say "duh: hello". I've also set my client up so if you use my real username, "legoktm", that notifies me as well. Legoktm (talk) 12:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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X!
That can't be my address or yours, please see the response on X!'s page.— cyberpower ChatOffline 00:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup I goofed :( Legoktm (talk) 00:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It happens. :)— cyberpower ChatOffline 00:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

OTRS comment
Not sure if you were aware of it or not, but we have the OTRS received template specifically for this purpose. VernoWhitney (talk) 23:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I know about that template now, but I might have not back then. Thanks regardless :) Legoktm (talk) 03:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm running for what now?
Thanks for swiftly disappearificating my surprise RfB... whilst it's nice to be appreciated, I think most people would just go with a barnstar... Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  21:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, I can tell you got quite a shock :P Legoktm (talk) 03:58, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks but no thanks. I'm rather tangentially involved and don't have an opinion either way really. Legoktm (talk) 03:59, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #42
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Global message delivery 14:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Development
 * Updated demo system
 * Improved design of sites code in core
 * Fixed SQLite compatibility
 * Worked on implementing references handling in statements user interface
 * Useful error messages will be shown in statements user interface in case of data value mismatches
 * Switched the demo system to Labs’ puppet
 * Selenium tests for length constraint, claim edit-conflicts
 * Setting up dispatcher script on internal test machine
 * More work on wikibase.getEntities function for Scribunto/Lua-Templates
 * AbuseFilter is now working with Wikibase
 * The change dispatcher script is now ready for use on the WMF cluster
 * Initial implementation of parser function for the client
 * Created a widget for the client to connect a page to a Wikidata item and add interwiki language links to a page
 * Preparing a page to list unconnected pages on the clients
 * Discussions/Press
 * VIAF
 * Events
 * InfoLunch at Hasso-Plattner-Institut
 * Deutscher Sprachtechnologietag
 * upcoming: FOSDEM
 * upcoming: talk about MediaWiki groups
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Reconfirmation of temporary admins
 * Next deployment (Hebrew and Italian Wikipedia) still scheduled for 30th of January as planned
 * Planning for Wikimania in Hong Kong
 * Wikimedia data center move went rather smoothly
 * Request from the Bosnian Wikipedia community to be among the next to use Wikidata
 * Project about paid editing that might also become relevant for Wikidata at some point
 * Open Tasks for You
 * Hack on one of these

My username
Because of the disagreement, I've placed a request for comment up. You are welcome to discuss it here: Requests_for_comment/User_names (yes I did copy that straight out of a URL).--90.217.236.85 (talk) 11:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, please do not give 100% wrong advice to people. If you do not know policies, please do not respond to help requests. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You're right, I misread the policy. The [//en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=534809996 version] I read said:

Email addresses and URLs (such as "Alice@example.com" and "Example.com"). Plain domain names (without .com, .co.kr, etc.) are sometimes acceptable, such as when the purpose is simply to identify the user as a person, but they are inappropriate if they promote a commercial Web page.
 * I misread the period after the ) as a, which would have implied that emails are ok in limited circumstances, which I believed the user met. However this wasn't the case, and my reading of the policy was inaccurate. wctaiwan has [//en.wikipedia.org/?diff=534924408&diffonly=1 reworded] that section, so it will be less likely to misread. I will leave a comment at the RfCN about my confusion and mistake. Sorry about that, Legoktm (talk) 05:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Bot updates for MILHIST showcase
Hey, I was wondering if you'd had a chance to add the MILHIST showcase page update tasks to Legobot's schedule? Like I said before, it's not urgent, but I wanted to make sure it doesn't drop off the radar. Thanks! Kirill [talk] 14:54, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops. I finished the code, and never scheduled it run. Will do tonight. Sorry about that. Legoktm (talk) 18:41, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks again for all your help with this! Kirill [talk] 19:21, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

thank you
thank you for removing the tag.

I have nothing else to contribute to Dead Linger right now. I remember when new pages were encouraged - how times have changed!

thank you again. Igottheconch (talk) 09:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * No worries, glad to see you've added more content to it. I also noticed that it's currently 474B, are you interested in making it a DYK? Just needs a 3x expansion :) Legoktm (talk) 18:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion on the AFT5 Request for Comment
Hey - this is to notify you that there is a discussion starting on the Article Feedback RfC talkpage that has ramifications for the RfC itself. Your input is much appreciated :). Thanks! and apologies if I've missed anyone Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:43, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I'll comment there shortly. Legoktm (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Again for your help!
Thanks again for your help squashing the vandalism on my talk page. You should be rewarded for being polite, helpful, and diligent. --Thomas (The Lord of Time) (talk) 20:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem! Let me know on IRC or here if you ever need any other help! Legoktm (talk) 07:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

CCI push
Hey. I'm sending you this since you helped out during the initial rush at Contributor copyright investigations/Ktr101. It's now down to the final 200 articles, less then that technically, and if we were to all do a few a day we could probably wrap this one up in a week. Hopefully you'll be able to help out again. Wizardman 04:22, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yay! Will take a look. Legoktm (talk) 07:57, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

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