User talk:Legoktm/June 2021

Tech News: 2021-23
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia movement uses Phabricator for technical tasks. This is where we collect technical suggestions, bugs and what developers are working on. The company behind Phabricator will stop working on it. This will not change anything for the Wikimedia movement now. It could lead to changes in the future.
 * Searching on Wikipedia will find more results in some languages. This is mainly true for when those who search do not use the correct diacritics because they are not seen as necessary in that language. For example searching for  doesn't find   on German Wikipedia. The character   isn't used in German so many would write   instead. This will work better in the future in some languages.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The CSRF token parameters in the action API were changed in 2014. The old parameters from before 2014 will stop working soon. This can affect bots, gadgets and user scripts that still use the old parameters.

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20:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2021). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ashleyyoursmile • Less Unless
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Husond • MattWade • MJCdetroit • Carioca • Vague Rant • Kingboyk • Thunderboltz • Gwen Gale • AniMate • SlimVirgin (deceased)

Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus was reached to deprecate Editor assistance.
 * Following a Request for Comment the Book namespace was deprecated.

Technical news
 * Wikimedia previously used the IRC network Freenode. However, due to changes over who controlled the network with reports of a forceful takeover by several ex-staff members, the Wikimedia IRC Group Contacts decided to move to the new Libera Chat network. It has been reported that Wikimedia related channels on Freenode have been forcibly taken over if they pointed members to Libera. There is a migration guide and Wikimedia discussions about this.

Arbitration
 * After a Clarification request, the Arbitration Committee modified Remedy 5 of the Antisemitism in Poland case. This means sourcing expectations are a discretionary sanction instead of being present on all articles. It also details using the talk page or the Reliable Sources Noticeboard to discuss disputed sources.

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Tech News: 2021-24
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Logged-in users on the mobile web can choose to use the advanced mobile mode. They now see categories in a similar way as users on desktop do. This means that some gadgets that have just been for desktop users could work for users of the mobile site too. If your wiki has such gadgets you could decide to turn them on for the mobile site too. Some gadgets probably need to be fixed to look good on mobile.
 * Language links on Wikidata now works for multilingual Wikisource.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * In the future we can't show the IP of unregistered editors to everyone. This is because privacy regulations and norms have changed. There is now a rough draft of how showing the IP to those who need to see it could work.
 * German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC.
 * All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 28 June. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks.

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20:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

RfC listing difficulties
Hello,

I just listed a new RfC: Talk:Ilhan_Omar. Unfortunately, I made a mistake and LegoBot is listing both the RfC question and some of the discussion below: Requests_for_comment/Wikipedia_policies_and_guidelines. This isn't your fault or Legobot's, I made some mistake. Would you be open to giving feedback? Benevolent human (talk) 03:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You didn't sign your statement with either  (name, time and date) or   (just the time and date), as required by WP:RFCST. I've  even though the RfC is now closed. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 07:57, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Benevolent human (talk) 13:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-25
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  group name is now  . This could affect abuse filters.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit German Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage and 29 smaller wikis for a few minutes on 22 June. This is planned between 5:00 and 5:30 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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15:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Sign-language films has been nominated for renaming
Category:Sign-language films has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:51, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 June 2021
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Deleting the book namespace
Hello! I plan on deleting the entire book namespace (~6800 pages + ~6500 talk pages) per Village pump (proposals)/Archive 181. Given the large number of pages I was wondering if there are problems with me doing this using Twinkle dbatch (probably divided in a few groups). Also pinging as they may know stuff about this as well. --Trialpears (talk) 20:04, 27 June 2021 (UTC)


 * @Trialpears I don't think it will cause any problems server-side (assuming books aren't very popular pages with many revisions), but Twinkle d-batch will occasionally fail when you attempt a very large number of pages in one go. When I did this in the past, I would do about a hundred or so at a time. Twinkle would miss a few, so I'd simply let it finish what it could, hit refresh, and do it again until all were deleted. Alternatively we can write a bot or a simple user script to do this synchronously. I could write a bot task for this in ~10 minutes... but tag on several days for the BRFA + admin bot bureaucracy, etc. Twinkle will do just fine, but it will probably take many tries to get all ~12,000 deleted. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:23, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Though I echo some of the concerns from the linked discussion. After we delete all the pages, and remove the namespace from the MediaWiki configuration, I'm not certain we can restore or even see the content. Shouldn't we move them to subpages of say Book archive just like we did for the Education namespace at Education program archive? This is sounding more like a job for a bot or maybe AWB if it's capable. We'd simply move all the pages without leaving a redirect. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * That's currently in progress as discussed at Village pump (technical). --Trialpears (talk) 21:47, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I realize I forgot to mention the rest of what you said (was kind of focused on the discussion mentioned above).
 * I would definitely have made a bot to do it if it wasn't for all the admin bot bureaucracy, if Twinkle should work fine I'm going to use Twinkle probably with 100 page batches. I can also confirm from my experience implementing the Education program deletion that no history, log entries or deleted revisions are accessible for uninstalled namespaces through normal means (perhaps using the API or something though, haven't tested). --Trialpears (talk) 22:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * @Trialpears basically what MusikAnimal said, more important than the # of pages is the # of revisions. But I doubt it'll cause any issues. My recommendation would be to use Pywikibot's delete.py script, which will take pauses in between each deletion and check for server lag correctly.
 * It's a bit worrying to me that stuff just becomes inaccessible once a namespace is removed, MediaWiki should handle that better. Seems like this is already filed as T12171. Legoktm (talk) 23:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Definitely unfortunate mediawiki doesn't handle it better. I just realized that there quite often are significant numbers of revisions to book talk pages because we've had a bot updating these pages every time the quality assessment of any article linked from the book changes. This means the average book talk page probably has like 100 revisions. Perhaps best to actually get a bot and do it properly then. It looks like there will be some delay for other reasons as well so the bureaucracy won't matter too much. --Trialpears (talk) 23:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Definitely unfortunate mediawiki doesn't handle it better. I just realized that there quite often are significant numbers of revisions to book talk pages because we've had a bot updating these pages every time the quality assessment of any article linked from the book changes. This means the average book talk page probably has like 100 revisions. Perhaps best to actually get a bot and do it properly then. It looks like there will be some delay for other reasons as well so the bureaucracy won't matter too much. --Trialpears (talk) 23:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Category:Techstars alumni has been nominated for listification
Category:Techstars alumni has been nominated for listification. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-26
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Wikis with the Growth features now can configure Growth features directly on their wiki. This uses the new special page.
 * Wikisources have a new OCR tool. If you don't want to see the "extract text" button on Wikisource you can add  to your common.css page.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia wikis for a few minutes on 29 June. This is planned at 14:00 UTC.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * ,  and   can be set in preferences. They are expensive to maintain and few editors use them. The developers are planning to remove them. Removing them will make pages load faster. You can read more and give feedback.
 * A toolbar will be added to the Reply tool's wikitext source mode. This will make it easier to link to pages and to ping other users.

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16:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)