User talk:Legoktm/October 2013

User talk:71.126.152.253
I don't think that the logged out edits are to evade scrutiny; it looks like the user is just not bothered to log in because it's unnecessary. If not unblocked, the settings should be changed to allow logged in editing, as you've said "please login and use your account". Peter&#160;James (talk) 18:26, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-40
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features
 * Special:Listfiles can now display old versions of files a user has uploaded. A new link was also added (Special:AllMyFiles) that gives a list of all files the current user has ever uploaded (that haven't been deleted).
 * There is now an Android application to contribute to translatewiki.net from mobile devices.

VisualEditor news
 * VisualEditor now has a new toolbar with drop-down menus for advanced tools.
 * Many bugs were fixed, some related to copy-and-paste.
 * You can now move references, list of references, templates and other elements with the mouse ("drag-and-drop").
 * You are invited to comment on designs for the interface to add references in VisualEditor.

Future
 * Developers are looking for ideas of small technical projects that new developers could work on. Please add your ideas.
 * Developers are looking for wikis who would accept to try using secure links (HTTPS) for all users.
 * You can join an IRC discussion about "Beta features", a tool to try new features, on October 3.
 * You can join an IRC discussion about Flow, the new wiki discussion tool, on October 17.

Tech news prepared by tech ambassadors and posted by Global message delivery • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. 19:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Note
When you said "Revoking talk page access" on user:Buttwipe101, you didn't really revoke their talk page access. 76.226.60.52 (talk) 00:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops, fixed. Thanks for the heads up. Legoktm (talk) 00:41, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 October 2013

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 * EdwardsBot (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

BACKLOG OF THE WEEK Category:Pages with broken reference names
Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names (more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a "Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.

Only with WikiBlame Search it is possible to find and repair such errors.

Best wishes & thanks --Frze > talk  09:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 October 2013

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 * EdwardsBot (talk) 14:21, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Legobot?
Legobot does not appear to have edited in over 4 hours, which has left the WP:GAN page a bit behind. Has something gone wonky? (BTW, thank you for your AWESOME work on this bot. I know you probably mostly get complained at for issues like the one I am bringing here today, but even with minor mis-steps now and then, having your bot makes reviewing SO much easier.) Dana boomer (talk) 21:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Labs is currently down, see . When it comes back, the bot should automatically restart and catch up with the backlog. :) Legoktm (talk) 23:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Damn. OK, thanks, obviously nothing you can do about it then. Good to know. Dana boomer (talk) 23:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Need help
Hi. I've seen Your bot is archiving talk pages. Same task I'm trying to do on sr.wiki, but archive.py simply does not find anything worthy archiving. I asked Misza and folks on pywikipedia mailing list, but my problem is not solved. Would you run your bot through sr.wiki to see whether I properly configured parameters for template archive? -- Bojan   Talk  07:30, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, are you setting your locale properly? I'm not that familiar with running it on non-English based wikis unfortunately. Legoktm (talk) 20:48, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I tried, but simply doesn't work. Thanks, anyway. -- Bojan   Talk  09:06, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

One more thing...
In case you didn't see this. ʍw 13:37, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Could you help with AN3 archiving?
Hello Legoktm. You've been helping to fill some of the gap left by MiszaBot. Can you recommend a solution for archiving WP:AN3? It seems to need the 'key feature' since the archives are not subpages of the noticeboard. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:20, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I generated my own key and ran the script manually. Hopefully Bots/Requests for approval/Lowercase sigmabot III 2 will be approved soon so we'll have a real replacement. Legoktm (talk) 16:51, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Your BRFAs
You have currently two open BRFAs. Bots/Requests for approval/TFA Protector Bot needs your attention since over more than 3 weeks and Bots/Requests for approval/Legobot 35 was approved for 1 scheduled run. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 06:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm behind on those. Thanks for the reminder. Legoktm (talk) 18:37, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * You mean he didn't have one already? :-)  Greetings from me as well. –  SJ  +  20:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Trolling?
Someone thanked me for the opportunity to provide commentary and we got a redirect out of it. That's an odd accusation. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 16:54, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how else to interpret "I think it will be healthy for the community to vent and occasionally poke fun at the WMF". You realize that the WMF are actually people who try and do good things? And most of them are members of "the community"? Why the hell would you want to poke fun of people like Anomie, ^demon, Kaldari, etc? Legoktm (talk) 16:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I just had a nice email exchange with ^demon (two days ago, was it?) with a project I've proposed and of course I wouldn't want to poke fun at those individuals. There is a big difference between the organization and the individuals who work there. And yes, I agree, many of them are community members. (I think they should all get 20% time, in an ideal world.) It's unfortunate, but understandable, that the WMF hires up some of the best talent around here. It's not an ideal situation. The WMF deserves to have some fun poked at it, after the confrontation over VE, in my opinion. I think it's a sign of growing maturity to be able to handle this stuff in stride. I hope you can see that what I wrote at WP:VPPR was not blatant trolling. I understand why that might have been your first reaction, but I've been the primary author of WP:WMF and if anything it can be seen as an opportunity to have a mature discussion and to propose changes to that piece. I hope you can see I was sincerely trying to be helpful, even if my method wasn't normal. I can be bold sometimes, as we're supposed to be. I think Wikipedia has lost some of its fun and creative edge, and I see only see the blanking (and what I perceive as mis-labeling of my contribution) as just another data point about this unfortunate tendency. Best regards. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 17:22, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And there were really quite nasty comments directed to the WMF after the VE thing, and I think having a playful name like wp:the kids will give a more meaningful and more mature "stress" valve for name calling to be directed more productively. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 17:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * wp:thekids is much better than "pen pushers and incompetents", in my opinion. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 17:27, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * What is the difference between the organization and the people who work there? Do you think the board is responsible? Sue? Erik? Yes, the WMF made a mistake in the VE deployment, so they attempted to fix it by making it opt-out, adding the disable option back, etc. I'm not sure why you think we should continue poking fun at it. Is that going to be constructive somehow? Is that going to better the project? I don't think my initial labeling of your comments as trolling was correct anymore, so sorry about that, however I do think it would not have been productive to let that discussion continue on.
 * And just because people made nasty comments during the VE debate doesn't give you the right to make less-worse but still unacceptable comments. Legoktm (talk) 19:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for explaining. I can't say I agree with everything said but I can't say we're definitely going to improve anything tangible by discussing it further either. Thanks for the reply. Best. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 19:47, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


 * And honestly, the key is to insult the corporate personhood rather than the people who work there. That's the key difference. I love people. But the bureaucracies people are forced into due to economic pressures result in corporate actions that can be constructively and healthily insulted, IMO. What if person X said this: "I own shares in Coca-Cola. But **** Coca-Cola because they sell poison [sugar]." You wouldn't honestly think person X was insulting all the people at Coca-Cola if they said that, would you? Because that would be quite silly. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 09:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Just a small note: rather than "etc" (which is a misspelled form of "etc."), you want "et al." "Et al." is reserved for people. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 18:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Heh, thanks :) Legoktm (talk) 19:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)