User talk:Lellins

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Hello, Lellins, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like it here and decide to stay. If you are looking for help, please do any of the following:
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Mr Ellins, I'm so glad to see another TEP interested in wikipedia! I hope you stick around and I look forward to your additions in the future. Having said that, there are a couple problems with your edit to the TEP page, namely Wikipedia's WP:Notability (People) policy and the WP:Primary policy. On the notability side, the Tau Epsilon Phi page editors have come to a consensus that people included in the list must have a Wikipedia biography page that survives the WP:Biographies of living persons guidelines - as a lawyer, you can appreciate the minefield of laws regarding what is said about people on the web. I would love to see a bio page for you created - your actions as court clerk in Doña Ana County Re: marriage licenses is something that I believe makes you notable - and on a personal note, Bravo to you Mr Ellins! However, a biography page for you must be created first (and survive review) before we can include you on the TEP page.

Regarding Wikipedia's rules of Primary sources, that is another minefield. Primary sources (you writing about yourself) MUST be accompanied by verifiable secondary sources, in order to keep bias out of our encyclopedia. This is part of our larger WP:No Original Research policy, which basically states that all content in Wikipedia must be attributed to a reliable source. For example, you note that you are a Regent of Colorado state university, however the regents website https://www.cu.edu/regents/ does not support your assertion - maybe the website is slow to be updated, or you were a past regent. An article from a reputable newspaper would suffice as a secondary source for this, and this should be noted on your future bio page, before we can allow you to appear on the TEP page.

I hope you understand that I personally think you are notable enough for inclusion my friend, but Wikipedia is guided by WP:Consensus and for now I am reverting your change until you meet our guidelines. I hope this reversion is short lived! Tau Gamma 703 Timmccloud (talk) 23:13, 12 December 2013 (UTC)