User talk:Lemonshiv

December 2022
Hello! I'm Favonian. Your recent edit(s) to the page Bertrand Russell appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Favonian (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there; will follow up on the article and your own talk pages as needs be – my change was to amend the article description to accurately reflect information already expounded and cited in the introduction to the article, replacing a description that seemed to be erroneous on several grounds. Lemonshiv (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The objectionable part was the years of birth and death in the short description, which were rather different from those in the body of the article – not to mention real life. Favonian (talk) 20:07, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you by any change use the short description from Aldous Huxley as a starting point? Favonian (talk) 20:09, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I did, yes – to work off something already published that was in the right format and for consistency I chose someone associated with Russell – I apologise for the error, I must have missed it as their birth years are similar on a passing glance, and their year of death is very close. Editing from mobile can be awkward for proofreading I’m afraid, would be nice to have tabs as a feature but that’s entirely tangential…
 * That all being said, the article description does need to be rewritten. Lemonshiv (talk) 20:17, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Glad we got that settled. I have no objections to the other changes, though, this being Wikipedia, others might. Philosophers are a cantankerous lot. Favonian (talk) 20:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Indeed – my PhD area, for my sins. Lemonshiv (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

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Once again, welcome! Sariel Xilo (talk) 05:35, 11 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Sariel – the link I provided is from the game developer’s official website. Two of the three secondary sources currently published refer to this website as a primary source, with the most detailed article (by The Verge) referring to the page linked specifically. Lemonshiv (talk) 10:04, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Unlike academia, Wikipedia prefers secondary sources over primary sources; in some situations, a secondary source is required (ex: establishing notability). See the two links above after the green quoted text which go more in-depth into this. One of the ways Wikipedia editors come to a consensus on policy guidelines, article content, etc is by doing a Request for Comment (RfC). A 2015 RfC established that secondary sources are "required in almost all cases" for "in popular culture" sections; see more on these sections here: "In popular culture" content. You can also see the 2021 RfC on the inclusion of similar pop culture info in the Zagreus article. Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:01, 11 December 2022 (UTC)