User talk:Lepricavark/Archive 10

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RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
 * Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
 * Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
 * Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
 * Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
 * Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
 * Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
 * Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

listas
Hi, thanks for adding the listas parameter. Just a note that it is now preferable to add this parameter to the WikiProject banner shell template rather than individual project banners. Regards &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I had wondered about that. Thank you for letting me know. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 18:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

BNN Breaking
FYI, there was a very damning article about BNN Breaking in the New York Times today ("It Looked Like a Reliable News Site. It Was an A.I. Chop Shop"). From the article: "(Mr. Chahal) used his news service to exercise grudges, publishing slanted stories about a politician from San Francisco he disliked, Wikipedia after it published a negative entry about BNN Breaking and Elon Musk after accounts belonging to Mr. Chahal, his wife and his companies were suspended on X." BNN Breaking is no more. Chisme (talk) 19:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the information. I can't say I'm particularly surprised by any of that. I wonder what his next move will be. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 20:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Request for opinion
Hello @Lepricavark, I would like to request your opinion at Chairperson. PadFoot2008 04:25, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

MOS:ORDER
Thank you for added dating tags but please read MOS:ORDER before doing any more. The short description always goes before that dating tag. Please go back and fix those. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Does it make any difference which comes first? L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 17:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The MOS thinks so. And I agree Masterhatch (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Surely you can provide an actual answer. I'm willing to make the switch for the time being, but I need an actual reason. This is not something that affects the reader in any way. If you're going to ask me to make my own job more difficult, then I'd appreciate a little courtesy. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 17:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

MOS:ORDER is important so we don't get stupid stuff like stub tags and categories put at the top and short descriptions put at the bottom. Masterhatch (talk) 17:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't put stub tags or categories at the top, nor do I put short descriptions at the bottom. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 17:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I didn't say you did. I was giving an example of why MOS:ORDER is important. And, really, is it that hard to put it below the SD? Masterhatch (talk) 17:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It adds an extra step to every edit, which I find especially annoying given that you still haven't taken the step of substantively answering my original question. I didn't ask why the MOS is so important; I asked whether it makes any actually difference whether the template comes before or after the SD. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 17:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

It's been discussed at length here and here. If you don't think its important enough to take one extra step then i suggest you start up a new discussion Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout. Masterhatch (talk) 18:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for linking those discussions, although I doubt they can answer my question of whether it actually makes any difference. In fact, it makes essentially no difference whether the dates template comes before the SD. It will not affect readers in any way, nor will it affect anything else. I am not interested in talking with other editors who share the inflexible commitment to the MOS that you've displayed here, so I will not be starting any new discussions. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 18:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Upon further consideration, thank you for bringing this issue to my attention, and I apologize for the surliness of my original replies. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 18:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's all good. Masterhatch (talk) 19:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Please also do not blindly mass-add MDY tags to articles, otherwise you end up with nonsense like this. You appear to be making one edit every 4/5 seconds on average, are you checking properly before you save? GiantSnowman 13:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I've implemented a workaround to skip pages with the DMY tag, and I will be more careful in the future. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 13:34, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Just to add to this. I'd got this list of down to just 17 articles. It's now 68. Can you fix the ones you've added please. - X201 (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've begun working on those. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 12:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks - X201 (talk) 07:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No problem. I think my accidental additions to that list are all resolved now. L EPRICAVARK ( talk ) 11:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)