User talk:Les-chouettes

October 2023
Hello, I'm MrOllie. An edit that you recently made seemed to be a test and has been reverted. If you want to practice editing, please use your sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! MrOllie (talk) 15:18, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Les-chouettes. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Les-chouettes. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 15:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks kindly. I am sorry this takes so long and that I'm naive about Wikipedia. I am not being paid to make edits. I'm a librarian. My job has nothing to do with Wikipedia except that I maintain quality control and ensure content is accurate and legal. I'm not associated with any point of view and not editing the intrinsic POV of the page or editing any substantial content except place of birth, adding middle name, and updating to the legally cleared official photo portrait as the one being used illegally is causing problems. What additional form should I fill out to be in compliance with your authority. Thanks so much for your time + direction.
 * — Sarah Les-chouettes (talk) 23:05, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * For the record I am disclosing that I am not being paid to make these updates to the page. Les-chouettes (talk) 23:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * So nice of you and generous with your time, thanks again. — Sarah Les-chouettes (talk) 23:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * If you are an employee of Kurzweil and/orthe Kurzweil Library as you have stated, WP:PAID absolutely does apply to you, and you must make the mandatory disclosures mentioned above to comply with Wikipedia's terms of use. MrOllie (talk) 23:10, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * What place do I make the disclosure ? I did click on the link and read the materials but I didn't see any form or instruction ? Les-chouettes (talk) 23:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * and thanks for your time this is quite over my head sorry Les-chouettes (talk) 23:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * See Paid-contribution_disclosure MrOllie (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I do want to comply with the rules. Les-chouettes (talk) 23:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * So I put this here ? follows: I just list my employer my employer is Kurzweil Technologies co. it's is not a client. Is that all ? I don't understand. Les-chouettes (talk) 23:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your time again. Les-chouettes (talk) 23:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023
 Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, please read our guide to appealing blocks to understand more about unblock requests, and then add the text  at the end of your user talk page. For that request to be considered, you must: Cullen328 (talk) 02:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Confirm that you have read and understand the Terms of Use and paid editing disclosure requirements.
 * State clearly how you are being compensated for your edits, and describe any affiliation or conflict of interest you might have with the subjects you have written about.
 * Describe how you intend to edit such topics in the future.


 * I have made no promo edits in any way. I changed a portrait to a legally owned one. And updated place of birth. I asked for help with this and an editor named Mr. Ollie gave me a form to fill out which I completed. No further instruction was given. My harmless edits were rejected even though I completed the disclosure form. I don't mind who makes the edits, it doesn't need to be me. I was not adjusting content or key material in any way. Mr. Ollie harassed me and was cruel. I told this editor that I'd need to find out legally how Wikipedia is handled when you work for a celebrity as I do, hence the request that O update the page and the disclosure filed. He accused me of threatening him with legal. I told him that's not what I said, it's clearly a personalized volunteer situation who's allowed to touch Wikipedia and must have a clique behind you because it has no legal oversight. Including for slander or defamation which is not my issue but I note this can happen and employees of celebrities who find this situation daunting are helpless to find solutions without contacting someone like Jimmy Wales directly which is how my boss's colleague managed to get a solution handed down. Also one might need to get legal help from a law firm. Instead of education me Mr. Ollie then attacked me personally and blocked me for no reason after I had done absolutely nothing and had not engaged in type of threat which is insane. This situation is highly unprofessional.  I did not go back and attempt changes after it was obvious they will always be undone — like correcting place of birth and uploading a legal portrait we have the rights to. It's obvious that to get professional help on Wikipedia I will need to seek the guidance of legal development teams and attempt to reach-out to its founders or adult supervisors if any exist. Les-chouettes (talk) 22:00, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't need to make these 2 tiny edits. It would be lovely if one of the volunteers valued this topic and made the update for accuracy: place of birth and updated portrait we legally own. I disclosed that I am an employee of Ray Kurzweil's and his official library manager. I filled-out the form Mr. Ollie texted me. I was treated cruelly after that, blocked for no reason after not attempting to do anything else — and never want to touch this unprofessional volunteer-based abusive situation again. It's handled like a dominion, I feel unwelcome and unappreciated by hostile ad-hominem attacks. I've seen multiple press stories online about Mr. Ollie's similar behavior. I will need to find out my rights wrg future issues that come-up related to slander or inaccuracies from a legal POV. That is not a threat, that's good data-keeping. I will find out how other professionals handle Wikipedia's gauntlet and abusive personal attacks on innocent people trying to be helpful. I don't need to make edits, a quality volunteer outside the personal dominion space could assess my suggested edits and photo submitted and professionally decide to make the change under their own power on here. I'm not attempting to get involved as an individual or play games with this entrenched system of volunteers who attack at will without supervision. Les-chouettes (talk) 22:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I also openly submitted my real name, my role, my affiliation, my contact e-mail + will happily supply a telephone number if requested. My boss is a Google Director of Engineering and a celebrity and I take my job seriously enough to investigate how Wikipedia handles / doesn't handle situations that arise for pages about celebrities. This page even contains criticisms which we welcome + support and didn't attempt to touch. Les-chouettes (talk) 22:14, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * As I told Mr. Ollie I greatly appreciate the time of any volunteer reading and attempting to help me. Les-chouettes (talk) 22:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC)