User talk:Leslie Roak/archive 3

Character ages
I see you've been changing several character ages in infoboxes. Can you give me some idea about where you got this inoformation? AniMate  draw  00:40, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * On the show. I looked over past episodes and interviews. I came up with it after viewing old episodes on youtube. Anyway, why am I getting the impression from you that I'm not wanted, man? I've helped a lot (have to acknowledge) before I came along, Robin Sorpio and Jason Morgan articles were so bad. Not only that, I've trimmed alot of the articles (like Sonny and Johnny's articles) and my best work has been on the Sami Brady article. --Leslie Roak (talk) 22:44, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Leslie, "calculating" ages for fictional characters by collecting facts mentioned in passing onscreen (character's birthday is celebrated onscreen, age is stated, years since high school graduation or another event are noted) or comparing ages between characters (X is the same age as Y) is original research, and inappropriate. Furthermore, these ages are trivial, and often change back and forth based on performers and storyline and who-knows-what-else. Your time and interest would be better spent researching articles and adding sources rather than trivia and images. Thanks. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 22:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not that I don't want you here, it's that I want you here only making productive edits. You have fixated on a set of articles related to General Hospital/Carly Corinthos that have been fraught with unnecessary controversy, original research, and vandalism. Your approach hasn't been great, and you've made edits that I would characterize as vandalism. Adding a speedy deletion tag to Courtney Matthews stating that it should be deleted as a result of an AfD that resulted in deletion when no such discussion ever occurred, was a lie and vandalism. You never completed this AfD for Cheryl Stansbury, despite being aware it was incomplete. Calling an actress who is a minor "sexy" is creepy and inappropriate. You're fixated on trivial details, like birthdays (which are fluid at best) and images, and your interactions with other editors isn't ideal. We are here to write an encyclopedia, and while many areas aren't super formal, we should behave on talk pages and user pages in a professional manner, and repeatedly using "dudes" and "cuz" in discussions and edit summaries isn't a great way to endear yourself to your fellow Wikipedians. Frankly, many of the reverts and changes you make to your preferred version, are usually not the better version. I'm not trying to pick on you, but I watch over many of the articles you have decided to work on because of the past controversies, and you're well on the way to making the same exact mistakes with them that have been made in the past. Instead of reverting more experienced editors, perhaps you should discuss things with them. TAnthony left an extremely polite note of explanation about character ages and why he was changing them. He's a smart guy and you should probably listen to him. AniMate   draw  23:24, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * OK. I apologize for what happened. I was just letting loose. So I'll mature up and work my way up to the top. I'll have to apologize to TAnthony as well. --Leslie Roak (talk) 00:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Images
You reverted my main image on the GH Samantha McCall character page. Is there a certain reason why? Sparrowhawk7 (talk) 01:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The other one (yours) is overused, man. This one is better. --Leslie Roak (talk) 20:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * As I thought you may have figured out through recent activity, a single image to identify a character (in an article about that character) is usually acceptable, but additional images are considered decorative and unnecessary and therefore violate policy. The closeup screen-shot style image currently in the Claudia Zacchara article is sufficient and appealing, please do not continue uploading and changing images. Image copyrights are a big deal here; so far you have violated policy a few times and do not seem to be learning, continuing this behavior can and will result in a block of your editing privileges.
 * PS, aren't you getting married today???&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 23:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I tied the knot already, Fiona left for a family emergency so I decided to start my editing. --Leslie Roak (talk) 23:30, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * LOL OK, I was just picturing you on a laptop in the limo ;) &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 23:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Dude, that's pretty funny. But instead of edting Claudia Zaccharra, I would be looking after baby names. --Leslie Roak (talk) 23:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Carly Corinthos age
My ability to assume good faith only stretches so far. Why did you change the year on the birthday again? You implied that you were ready to work productively, but you're putting in outright falsehoods into the article. 1976? That makes Carly 32 and means she had Michael when she was 15 years old, and was pregnant/training as a nurse when she was 14. You came out the gate knowing how to nominate an article for speedy deletion, and I'm betting you've edited here before under another user name. Care to share what your old account was? AniMate  draw  01:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, how was your wedding? I understand Tuesday weddings are quite popular among Australian students at the "Universiti of Malibu." It's great that your wife doesn't mind you editing Wikipedia on what is presumably your wedding day. Perhaps for a wedding present you can create an article on the University of Malibu. AniMate   draw  01:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * At first, I thought when you were picking on me, it was you doing your job. Now, it feels like you're investigating me, really really picking on me (this time on my personal life). I didn't get married at U of M, it was at an altar and tuesday is a memorable day h Fiona, thats why. Now, when she left, like I told TAnthny, I started editing here. I don't know whats up here, but i've been such a greade dude here so I would appreciate it if you only confront me about Wikipedia artciles, not my peronal life. As for the carly age, i saw old Jason videos when Michael was born and she said she\s "a 21 year old mother who ruined her life" in 1997, and that is what i based it on and I thought it was a typo later on so--Leslie Roak (talk) 14:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's the thing. You've been playing around with the birth dates on several GH related articles, and have done so in a disruptive way. Here you state her 1972 birthday isn't "trivial cuz It's a fact". Two days later your "fact" has apparently changed, since you now state that 1976 is the correct year. I won't even get into how you decided to change the month and day, which were the only two seemingly established "facts" about the ever-so-important birthday. You're messing around and I highly suspect that you've probably been banned from this site before. I don't trust your edits, and that made me look a little more closely at everything you've written. There is no University of Malibu. There's Pepperdine University that has a campus located in Malibu, but no one calls it the University of Malibu. Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye on your edits from now on. AniMate   draw  23:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The birthday happened over 2 weeks of episodes. Why are you asking me these questions, the answers are in the edit summaries. So from now on, if the explanation is already there, I will tell yuo to go se the edit summary. --Leslie Roak (talk) 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I am asking you these questions because you're not being honest. Where did you get the two different years for Carly's birthday? Please answer that. Also, do not leave anymore false vandalism warnings. AniMate   draw  17:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * False? A user has constantly been vandalizing (over and over again) so I warned him. And I am being honest, leave me alone. --Leslie Roak (talk) 17:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Page move
shit Your page move of Port Charles to Port Charles (TV series) is an unnecessary disambiguation, as the TV series should be the primary topic over the fictional location. Any any big page moves like this should be discussed first!! Further, you redirected it Port Charles, New York (fictional city), which is incorrect because MANY articles already have links to Port Charles which are intended to point to the series. You need to think about yourt actions a little bit more.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 17:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't notice and I'll discuss anymoves. Thanks TAnthony --Leslie Roak (talk) 22:06, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

==List of General Hospital miscellaneous characters== Hey there, you should definitely alphabetize the entries in that article, probably by last name but maybe by first name.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 20:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey man, thanks for the tip but I'm drowning in work here. I wont be back until Late December (maybe September at the earliest). I also created a new account called Leslie Roaker II if ever I need to fix anything later on while travelling. Anyway, thanks man. --Leslie Roak (talk) 21:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you maybe explain to me why you felt like Patrick Drake isn't worth his own article? Or some of the other characters on the page, for that matter? --ForgottenStranger (talk) 17:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * hey dude, i see ya edit here alot although it sys u'll be her in like deveber. can u, teachme ohw to do what here dude.--Clau5dia8 (talk) 22:09, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey man, I'm on and off from this site but what you can do is browse around the getting started thing and spend an over-nighter looking up policies. Sorry I cant help you but ask around (and dont vandalize. I checked your contribs and it shows that you messed up Courtney Jacks). Anyway, bye.l

Articles for deletion nomination of List of notable General Hospital characters
I have nominated List of notable General Hospital characters, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/List of notable General Hospital characters. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Irbisgreif (talk) 20:15, 2 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It is needed. --Leslie Roak (talk) 20:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Shit
 * Not really. If it's a list of notable characters, then they clearly deserve there own articles. Stop redirecting now, and let the AfD run its course. AniMate   draw  20:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright, let's follow "AniMate Policy". --Leslie Roak (talk) 20:22, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not "AniMate Policy," it's WP:Notability. If a character is notable, we don't redirect the page, we improve the article. These are General Hospital characters who although warrant their individual articles, do not have enough solid content This is your opinion and pretty much sums up what is wrong with the article you've attempted to create. AniMate   draw  20:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The hangon tag is only for speedy deletion not for regular AfDs. If you want to argue that the article is "utile" please do so at the AfD linked from the top of the article. AniMate   draw  20:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought you were going to be traveling until September or December? Anyway, you've been advised against drastic changes and yet lately that's all you've been doing. And as predicted, editors who understand Wiki policy are nominating things for deletion. Why don't you try choosing an article and actually improving it with references and such (as you said you would) rather than your indiscriminate moving and merging that will single-handedly get all GH material deleted? &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 21:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The new Cassie Layne Winslow picture
shit buttocks I'm sorry, but I strongly suspect that the picture you just uploaded of this character may be the correct actress but no the correct character. That looks just like a picture of Laura Wright as Carly on GH with the new hair cut she got. Also, you don't have the correct source for this picture now. AniMate  draw  00:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The sourcing on your new Michael image is wrong as well. It's a screen shot, not a promotional image, and you uploaded it not User:M623. If you must persist in uploading images, use correct sourcing. I'm not going to fix it for you, but I will remove all of your erroneous and invalid sourcing claims. AniMate   draw  00:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey AniMate, M62333 uploaded a promo shot but I put up a screenshot and forgot to change it --Leslie Roak (talk)
 * Laura Wright also cut her hair short numerous times on Guiding Light

This is getting out of hand; your edits and uploads seem to get more and more drastic, disruptive, and pointless. Uploading images with incorrect license tags, no sources, etc. will only get them deleted, just as your edits are endangering articles. Please focus your efforts on another Wiki, you are only causing problems here. If this continues I'm going to start filing formal complaints, which will result in blocks of your editing privileges.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 04:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Your point? I helped out her and there is only one Wikipedia, dude. --Leslie Roak (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Check Out the Sami Brady, Sonny Corinthos, Jason Morgan, and Robin Scorpio articles. Those are my best work. Let's not forget Sam McCall and Maxie Jones. --Leslie Roak (talk) 21:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Now, look at Ric Lansing. --Leslie Roak (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Now look at Elizabeth Webber --Leslie Roak (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * great work dude but the liz webb kinda sucks, no offence. and yess i'll join the union. --Clau5dia8 (talk) 23:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Roak, I don't want to dismiss the time and energy you've spent here, and certainly appreciate the copyediting you've done on some of the articles you've named. But let's not pretend that's all you get into here. I know your heart's in the right place, but participation which causes more work for other editors or "damages" articles from a policy standpoint is not worth it. I know you just want to find the "best" images, but though you've been advised/warned to update licensing tags and sources when you update images, you conveniently forget, which will cause the images to be deleted for violation of policy. Making your "help" detrimental. Plus, changing images every few days makes us look like a buch of fangirls. You also insist on page moves and merges that may seem OK in theory, but your grasp on over-reaching policies is sparse, meaning that at times you take relatively "safe" material and turn it into a policy violation in danger of deletion. Again, you've been asked not to make drastic changes without discussing it first, but you ignore that as well. Let me be blunt: any of a dozen ever-present fangirls can come in here, write some plot summary and change some images. If you are such a valuable editor, you should be focusing on constructive pursuits like adding references rather than cosmetic ones. Compare Adam Wilson (The Young and the Restless) to Maxie Jones and hopefully you can see the kind of work that really needs to be done on these soap articles. And you could be the king of the General Hospital Wikia, none of us with bother you there.&mdash; TAnthonyTalk 23:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Looked at the site, It is soo crammed and overleaded that it gives me a headache. Im staying here and wroking on articles and making them look like Adam Newman. I'm starting with Maxie Jones or [{Carly Jacks]].--Leslie Roak (talk) 23:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)