User talk:Lewis thehaven

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Speedy deletion nomination of Haven Herefords


A tag has been placed on Haven Herefords requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a specific animal, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Haven Herefords
I have declined the speedy deletion nomination on this article, but it has problems.


 * It does not cite any references. Wikipedia has a fundamental policy WP:Verifiability, which can be summarised as: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source." If you have written this account from your own personal knowledge, or from prvate, unpublished records, it would not be admissible - see No original research.
 * There is another requirement, WP:Notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about?
 * Finally, I presume that you are Edward Lewis, or at any rate connected with the family. You do not have to confirm or deny this - anonymity of users is strictly preserved, if they wish - but the username you chose makes it fairly obvious. That means that from Wikipedia's point of view you have a WP:Conflict of interest, and should read that and also WP:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest. A COI does not prevent you editing, but you need to be very careful - so many people try to use Wikipedia as a free advertising platform that COI users are regarded with grave suspicion, which is diminished if they declare their interest openly and accept advice from uninvolved users.

You may find User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard useful as background.

Having said all that, I would like to keep as much of this as we can. The real crunch is verifiability. What sources can you provide?

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I am pleased to see you back
...because I thought you had just edited once and departed. But please read and respond to my message above: Verifiability is an absolutely fundamental principle, and we cannot keep much of this article unless reliable sources can be found. At best, it would need to be fairly sharply trimmed back to facts which can be verified. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Most of this information was in a programme which i found for the centinary sale, written by former stockmen.