User talk:Lewiswjones

Your submission at Articles for creation: Good Bad Poems (April 25)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 04:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Good Bad Poems (April 26)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

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SwisterTwister  talk  05:03, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Good Bad Poems (May 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Justlettersandnumbers was:

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Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Lewiswjones, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Draft:Good Bad Poems have been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.


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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 07:59, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

01:01:51, 7 May 2017 review of submission by Lewiswjones
Dear Just etc.,

Thank you for considering my article on Good Bad Poetry. Perhaps, as you say, it is too thin to be posted, even as a stub. But I cannot accept the allegation of copyright infringement, at least in the form in which it has been made. The section objected to was written by Orwell himself. The webpage whose copyright I am alleged to have violated lifted the material directly from Orwell's essay on Kipling. The reference to that webpage has now been deleted, and the quotation is supported by a link to the essay at Project Gutenberg, Australia. Your Bot, however, acting on the mistaken assumption that I had violated the copyright of the site at http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/kipling/english/e_rkip is refusing to save my latest draft on the mistaken grounds that I am still in breach of copyright. Take a look at http://orwell.ru/library/reviews/kipling/english/e_rkip and you will see what I mean. I am persevering with this draft, for the time being at least, because I think that this concept of good bad poetry can enrich literary debate.

Lewis Jones.
 * Hi, Lewis Jones! First, I'm sorry I forgot earlier to leave you the standard copyright explanation that I've now added above this. On that subject:
 * Orwell died in 1950, so his work is in copyright until 1 January 2021 (assuming renewal in the United States)
 * so we can't reproduce chunks of it in our articles here (limited quotations are allowed, of course, if there's a reason for them)
 * and the Russian site is probably infringing that copyright by posting the essay on the internet
 * and we don't link to suspected violations of copyright – please see WP:LINKVIO;
 * so you should neither reproduce Orwell's text here, nor link to a website that does.


 * On the draft itself, I've said what I think (perhaps a little more brusquely than was necessary, sorry!). Please bear in mind notability and verifiability at all times when writing here – the topic needs to be something that has been written about in sufficient detail to (a) demonstrate that we need an article on it and (b) allow that article to be written. I'm afraid this just isn't the place for "literary debate"; if there's actually been a debate, we can report it here, but we're not here to stimulate or facilitate discussion, we're here to report facts as published in independent reliable sources. An article usually starts with a definition of the topic ("Good bad poetry is …") and goes on to the history ("The concept of good bad poetry was first proposed by George Orwell in an essay on Kipling in 1946 …") and then to subsequent developments, reception etc. Good luck! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:32, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Good Bad Poems concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Good Bad Poems


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.  T K K ! bark with me! 15:32, 5 December 2017 (UTC)