User talk:Lfstevens/2012 Archive

Distributed operating system‎
Copy editing is one thing, this is another story. I think you removed some very useful information - cutting way too much valuable material. It is good to edit it, not murder it... History2007 (talk) 23:22, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope you will be more specific. While I have found much to excise, I don't want to cut any meat. I'm happy to repair any real damage. Thanks for communicating and HNY. Lfstevens (talk) 01:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)


 * As long as you do not delete more, it is ok. I will get to fix that article sometime in 2012. It is one of the better articles in that series, almost free of errors. Alas the Ksudhir fellow who wrote is missing. That was all he wrote. The rest of the series is a rummage sale of errors. I have cleaned up a few, many more need to be done, e.g. supercomputer itself. In any case, thanks for responding to the copyedit request. Cheers. History2007 (talk) 16:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi there. Just a quick note to say thank you for the copyedit you did for the ontological argument a few days ago - I wanted you to know that I appreciated it. ItsZippy (talk •contributions) 21:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Thanks for the acknowledgement. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 23:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Please,, don't destroy the article Conquistador again, You try not wrecking it another time.
This article is developed in the "Background" and "consequence" It actions beginning, development and conclusion, "Who did that", "Who ordered what". Please, should not delete the story, because it will cannot be understood. The "Inquisición" was not the governt of Spain or Portugal. I want to thank your good intentions but I can see that you do not know the story you are playing. This countries were having very pragmatic governts. The goal of these kings, noblemen, richmen...etc were to increase the category of their lineages. The Inquisición was in the service of power and not the other way. Inquisición never ruled countries. People could change their name, lineage, etc, because there was no effective government control. The control was exercised by power groups and misrule resulted in: Civil wars and vendettas, abuse, exploitation, plundering, extermination, slavery, abuse and subjugation of women, envy, rivalry among powerful groups or countries...I apologize if I can be offensive in my post. It is not my intention, because I like that you have read the article and I can see that you have worked hard in the article. I've tried not to romanticize nor seem infantilizing behavior either the Conquistadors. Can you find details of the deads of european settlers or armies by American diseases? The French army could not conquer Hispaniola island by an epidemic that killed white soldiers. Dutch empire cannot be established in Brazil by the same reason. But these peoples are not named "conquistadors" so, they are not included unfortunately. Spain and Portugal and later other countries did not want dead subjects, servants and workers were needed, and African slaves were expensives. Te agradezco mucho el trabajo tan duro que has hecho, y me gusta que hayas leido el articulo. He intentado crear un hilo argumental que muestre a que se debieron las acciones de estas personas. He intentado que quede claro que los conquistadores eran personas de aquella epoca. He intendado que no sea una historia romantica de Conquistadores buenos y civilizados y salvajes malos y depravados. Los pueblos nativos con culturas de la edad de piedra o la edad del bronce, en Asia, africa, o America estaban en desventaja. La conquista del planeta no se debió a 1 persona, el rey Fernando el Catolico no es mas que un rey como los demas, no es más importante que otros. Mi lengua nativa es el español, y estoy estudiando inglés pero tengo muchos errores en inglés. Curritocurrito (talk) 11:18, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. As I noted on the talk page, once you stepped back in, I stepped out. Cheers.Lfstevens (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Oops!
Hi. It wasn't an "assist" on Shammar actually. I didn't see any inuse banner anywhere and just dived in without looking at the history file. Sorry if I interrupted your work. Best, --Stfg (talk) 10:46, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. I got a lot of objections to the goce tag, so I stopped using it. Lfstevens (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Really? I've never had that yet. Did they say why? --Stfg (talk) 15:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just that some jerk was getting in their way. It may have more to do with me than with the tag ;) Lfstevens(talk) 22:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Grace Perry
Your dedication in copy-editing astounds me. It would be sin not to let you know how appreciative I am with your editing job onGrace Perry. You made it a cleaner and meaner article. You make editing seem effortless. WassailPjt48(talk) 12:45, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 19:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Biodiversity of New Caledonia, paleobotany forgotten
Hello, could you to work on this article, please? Biodiversity of New Caledonia. It is a very important archaic species group in Paleobotany and evolution. 85.251.99.49 (talk) 08:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. Lfstevens (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much
Thank you very much by your unselfish cooperation in Article "Biodiversity of New Caledonia". Muchas gracias por tu colaboración desinteresada en el articulo "Biodiversidad de Nueva Caledonia". 85.251.99.49 (talk) 23:13, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Iraq War in Anbar Province
Major thanks for your help copyediting! I spent five years stationed at Kaneohe Bay and always appreciate a little aloha spirit! :)Palm_Dogg (talk) 18:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I hear that aloha spirit is a powerful force! Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 18:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

moved

Copyedit?
Hi Lfstevens, I saw that you do a great deal of copyediting and was wondering if you could copyedit a page that I've been working on? If you have time/are interested, the page is William T. Anderson, I'm hoping to eventually bring it up to featured status. It's a fairly long article (5700 words), but the prose is hopefully in an Ok state at the moment, so hopefully there won't be too much to fix. It's not very urgent, so if you can't get to it for a while that's fine. Thanks! Mark Arsten(talk) 01:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Happy to take a crack, but it won't be until May, so continue without me if you like. Lfstevens (talk) 20:28, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I got distracted on another article so I won't be finished with Anderson anytime soon. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:01, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, good job. I haven't gone line by line yet, but your changes look great at first glance--well worth the wait! Mark Arsten (talk) 19:25, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Cor blimey!
You're doing it again, aren't you. How on earth do you keep going? You thoroughly deserve the above.

Anyway, why I came here right now was to ask whether there's a reason why you sometimes put gaps between the items on your list of completed copyedits, and whether you'd like me to close them when I notice it. Cos your actual article count now is 53, one more than you've listed (at least, it was 5 minutes ago :-) Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 21:29, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the catch. The blank line comes from the editor that I use. After I paste the word count info and delete the extra text, it magically inserts another CR. I delete the blanks every so often. Lfstevens (talk) 22:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Ned Kelly copyedit
Hi Lfstevens, thank-you for your copy edits to the Ned Kelly page as they were certainly needed. I would like to point out though, in your obvious haste, that you BROKE THE PAGE. In the Ned Kelly armour section, you have a syntax error for a conversion. As an expert on the subject, I would also like to point out that you have made a number of errors during your editing. For instance, the in the Jerilderie letter, it you seem to have confused the two letters. In the Aaron Sherrit section, you got rid of the famous bit of the policemen hiding under the bed, and you got rid of "You must be drunk, Anton. You know that it's over that way,'. In another section, you got rid of the very famous act when Curnow convinced Ned to let him go. You also got rid of 'the outlaw howled like a wild beast brought to bay, and swore at the police' Again, very famous. You also got rid of what happened to Martin Cherry, Then you got rid of ' that they must have killed one another'. This is incredible crucial, and the subject of much controversy.. You also got rid of 'After Ned Kelly's capture there was considerable debate over having the armour destroyed,' That is not copy editong, it now starting to become vandalism. Then you made a change which reslted in 'Two stolen circular saws iron tacks were tried'.  Circular saws and iron tacks are two different things.Also plough shares and mould boards are two different things. You have certainly made a mess of the page of one of the most well known Australians. Could you please improve the page in response to the errors which I have highlighted. Once that is done, I will then highlight the other numerous errors which you have caused. David.moreno72 (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing my changes. I eliminated a lot of material that did not add substance to this massive article. The remarks you note were simply included, with no mention of their notoriety. I am ready to repair any damage I have done! I'll continue this discussion on the article's talk page. Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Lfstevens, Thanks for your revision, it was much appreciated. When it comes it Australian history, being Australian born, I can become a bit over passionate, so don't take any of my attention getters personally.I think the changes that you have made have now restored the essence of the article. What I would like to clarify though is the Jerilderie Letter. I think there needs to be clarification that Ned is famous for two separate letters. The first one was posted to Mr Donald Cameron on 16 Dec 1878. The second, and more famous is the Jerilderie letter, given to Ms Gill on 9 Feb 1879. To make it easier, I suggest that 'Excerpts of the Jerilderie letter given to Ms Gill on 9 Feb 1879' instead of 'Excerpts of the second letter '. Also, when the police arrived at Glenrowan, they travelled in two trains, a pilot train with a policeman strapped to the front, and the main train, which carried the bulk of passengers, so the term 'trains' needs to be used. Also could you put back that Byrne's body was secretly buried by police. Also, could you put pack the heading of Kelly's statement, as now the statement is missing who said it. Also, you state that 'armour section remains confusing'. This is all part of the Kelly legend, where fact and fiction have become intertwined, so the many facets of the story needs to be revealed, even if they contradict. This is probably why the Ned Kelly story is so famous, and is the most written about person in Australian history. This is partly why the article is so long. He killed 3 police, held up two towns and stole from their banks, and then went down in a final siege with homemade armour. When the Kelly gang was in the area, entire towns would shut down in a 'perfect panic'. FYI, I have been to the actual site of the Glenrowan Inn, which is now just a vacant lot.David.moreno72 (talk) 05:00, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I will continue to correct any flaws that I introduced. If something was missing/wrong before I showed up, I hope you will make the correction. (I'm happy to buff the result, if you like.) But please, take future comments to the article's talk page so that others can participate. Lfstevens (talk) 05:06, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Jamaat-e-Islami Kashmir
Thanks for editing that one - I'd meant to get around to it myself at some point. I did (as part of being a reviewer) do a bit of further copyediting on it. Allens (talk &#124; contribs) 18:28, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. And welcome to the party! Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 18:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Kirkcaldy
Thanks for your help converting references to the harvnb style. What i'm not sure is if references from PDFs (portable document files), newspapers and websites need converting too? All of the references have been converted on the Dundee article and all references are spilt into several sub-sections relating to news, maps and websites etc. Is this what i should be aiming for?Kilnburn (talk) 19:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. As I understand, harvs are optional, and not all editors even like them, since they somewhat slow retrieval time. If you think they're helpful, don't hesitate to do the PDFs too. Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 19:57, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

After looking at the criteria for FA, i decided to remove the harvnb style. I just feel that you need to have a link between the appropriate reference on the notes section and that on the references section to make it worthwhile. It's too time consuming. Anyway, i do need a bit of help addressing the prose, grammar and flow of the article; it is something i can't really do on my own.Kilnburn (talk) 18:52, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for editing St. Louis history
Thank you for your thorough edit of the history of St. Louis article prose and information. You did a great job and I appreciate it.poroubalous (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for noticing. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk)

Hi
Could you copyedit Compton-Belkovich Thorium Anomaly for me? --Tomtomn00 (talk •contributions) 19:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. Please put a copyedit tag on it for me. Lfstevens (talk)
 * Done. I guess you're trying for the copyedit May backlog drive. --Tomtomn00 (talk •contributions) 19:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

COMP128
Please stop removing the banner, it is there for a reason. For example "A8 is used a session key" is not grammatically correct, it should be "A8 is used as a session key". Bomazi (talk) 09:36, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, Bomazi, copy edit is the wrong tag there, because one can only copy edit material that is intelligible in the first place. The article is a machine or machine-like translation from the German one. The right tag is Rough translation, which I have placed, and I've requested a translation as instructed on the banner now there.


 * Lfs, I'm sorry, but you really didn't crack this one, and I think it might be better not to count it. --Stfg (talk) 10:47, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Lfstevens (talk) 14:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Regarding a copy edit
I'd just like to thank you for copy editing "Love the Way You Lie". It's really appreciated. Thanks, — WP: PENGUIN  ·[ TALK ]  15:27, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. Cheers!

Expand
You do realize that "expand" no longer exists, right? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:48, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I do now. Thanks. Lfstevens (talk) 20:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Nellikuzhi
Hi, Lfstevens. Routine checks were done on this article as part of the copy edit drive audits, and I found quite a few additional things to do. Some of them are directly related to copy edits, such as punctuation, spelling, and grammatical errors. There was also a lot of over-linking; "Kothamangalam" was linked six times. If you could please keep in mind that it might be years before the next skilled Wikipedian shows up on these articles, that would be great. Thanks again for helping out with the copy edit drive. --Dianna (talk) 15:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. Lfstevens (talk) 15:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

A8 (Croatia)
Hi. You booked A8 (Croatia) from the GOCE Requests page on 9th May but appear to have done nothing with it. What are your plans?--Stfg (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Got distracted. Thanks for the reminder. Take it if you want, but othewise I'll get to to it today or tomorrow.Lfstevens (talk) 15:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take it, unless someone objects - I'm familiar with the various Croatia articles. Allens(talk &#124; contribs) 16:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool! Lfstevens (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, cool. Thank you both. --Stfg (talk) 17:39, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Invoked your name
Hi, I've submitted a request for semi-protection for the page Conquistador and invoked your name because the edit history as I read it seems to show careful and extensive editing by you with an aggressive response from Curritocurrito, after which you graciously stepped aside. I don't think that I can usefully point directly to the semi-protection request whose heading involves a template; it was the top item at Requests for page protection. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:15, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. Lfstevens (talk) 14:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Hijacking this section to tell you that I am questioning your edits here. Regards, --M4gnum0n (talk) 13:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Days Gone Bye
This may be a bit late, but thank you so much for copyediting the prose of the article. :) —DAP388 (talk) 20:31, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 03:48, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Restored maintenance tags
Hey there, I've gone ahead and restored the unaddressed maintenance tags on the Curtis Moss, Julie Labonté, and Daniel Harper articles. In particular, the article requires copy editing for spelling and wikification for consistency in formatting. Generally, I would go ahead and make the edits myself, but with the initial editor creating numerous articles from a template with typos and formatting that is not in compliance with the Manual of Style for biographies, I'm a bit spent at the moment. Feel free to contact me if you have questions. Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk to me ) 18:11, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thomas S. Hinde Copy-editing
Hello Lfstevens,

Thank you so much for copy-editing Thomas S. Hinde. You did an excellent job and I really think the article looks cleaned up and more professional. I was wondering if you have any recommendations about where the article can be improved in the future? Anyways thank you for investing your time and I am sure many people will be able to enjoy the article in the future.

Best Regards, Lawman4312 (talk) 01:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Law. Thanks for noticing. I put some suggestions on the talk page. Lfstevens (talk) 03:56, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Paul McCartney FAC
Thanks for all the insightful and helpful edits and comments at Paul McCartney. I think I have resolved most, or maybe all of your comments. Perhaps a little clarification may be needed on your part so I can fully resolve your concerns. In particular, when you say "tour info should be demoted", what exactly do you mean by that? Please clarify. ~ GabeMc  (talk 22:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Would you please take the time to weigh-in here? We are having a dispute about "number" versus "No." Thanks again for all the fantastic help! I will work on you comments now, and I should have them resolved before I finish editing for the night. ~ GabeMc  (talk 01:53, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Great comments and edits. Wow, nice work. Thank you so much, really, you've been a big help. So I'm curious, do you think its FA status now? ~ GabeMc  (talk 06:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * With this article changing so fast, any opinion on FA is short-lived. I think it needs to be shorter to live up to its potential. 10k is too long... Lfstevens (talk) 08:35, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you noticed how much I've demoted? ~ GabeMc  (talk 08:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Please take a look at the recent diffs at McCartney. It would appear that User:andreasegde is starting to undo some of your work. Please help, do we need to file an ANI report asap? ~ GabeMc  (talk 09:49, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't keep up with the incredibly rapid changes. If you'd like another pass on it when things settle down some, please readd to the request page.


 * Actually, after a few minor changes things have settled down quite a bit. I demoted much material to notes as you suggested, thanks for that. The page is quite stable right now, and its much shorter and readable. If you wouldn't mind just taking another run through now, to see if you catch anything, I would appreciate it beyond words! I can't tell you how many hours I have put into this article (500+), but without your help it had no chance, now it has a great chance. It also inpsired me to buy the Chicago MoS and the MLA handbook so as to empower myself and need less assistance at FAC in the future. You've been great, and if Macca gets through FAC it will have been largely for your efforts. Thanks again. ~ GabeMc  (talk 04:33, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Your efforts are phenomenal, but the changes just today number in the many dozens. That says "flux" to me. I'm happy to hit it again, but not yet.
 * Okay, I'll ask in a week. ~ GabeMc  (talk 07:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Its been a week, and the article is extremely stable right now, save for the talk page nonsense. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate if you took another look at the article. Thanks again. ~ GabeMc  (talk 21:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Sgt. Pepper straw poll
There is currently a straw poll taking place. Your input would be appreciated. ~ GabeMc  (talk 05:21, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

There is also a thread on this issue at the McCartney talk page, and we could use some objective advice there. ~ GabeMc  (talk 05:23, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Požega Valley
Hi there. Sorry to keep popping up, but just to remind you that you marked the request for Požega Valley as Working a few days ago but then appear to have moved on to other requests. Anyway, hope you're enjoying the drive. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 09:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't stop! It's done now. Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 16:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Pop! :) Thanks, and for all your other work as well. --Stfg (talk) 17:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thanks for the copyedit and the comments you left on the talk page - I'll try to address those concerns shortly. Would you mind if I dropped you a note asking you to take a look at the additions once that's done?--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:28, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. I'm kind of booked for awhile. Please readd to the requests page when you're ready.Lfstevens (talk) 18:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Elsa García
Hey, could you please come by to the Elsa García article and check how the article have been developed? I think is like a fan view. Is not just the ownership of the article that the author have, but how the article reads at all. Thanks, is just checking and dropping your ideas/concerns about this article. Osplace 23:03, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. I added a couple of comments on the talk page. Lfstevens (talk) 23:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, everything looks better, and already read the comments on talk page. You are so kind! And... could you please reviewthis draft? Osplace 02:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Took a quick look, and the comments are basically the same. Good luck! Lfstevens (talk) 03:58, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Osplace 14:35, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

ce on SS-Handschar
Thanks so much! I've left a couple of questions on the talk page and would appreciate your feedback. Regards,Peacemaker67 (talk) 23:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That's it. Cheers and thanks for noticing! Lfstevens (talk) 23:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
All I can say is WOW. You did a fantastic job with the task at hand. Thank you so much for the copyedit. :) —DAP388(talk) 21:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Had a couple of other changes. All done now. Thanks for noticing. Lfstevens (talk) 22:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

"The/the" request for formal mediation
FYI, I have requested formal mediation here to decide the "The/the" issue, hopefully once and for all. Feel free to add your name there if you so wish. ~ GabeMc (talk 00:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

German Peasants' War
Pop!! Dianna has pointed out to me that you're copy editing German Peasants' War, perhaps from the requests page, and thatUser:Tdslk also edited it, probably from a copyedit tag, which they removed yesterday at around 06:00 UTC. Please would you both touch base to agree how you'd like to proceed? I'd be happy for you both to take credit for the article as a Request, with the 50% bonus, if that's what you agree. Please let me know if any help is required with this. Cheers, Simon. --Stfg (talk) 23:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll check with Tdslk. I'm hard at work. It's very disorganized at the moment and rife with stuff. Lfstevens(talk)
 * Tdslk's changes are modest. I'll incorporate them. He/she can have the credit. My cup runneth over. Lfstevens(talk) 02:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It doth, but you're earning it. By all means take credit for it too. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 09:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Sharon (1918)
Hi thanks very much for your time and effort copyediting this article.

I see that you have changed the citations so that some of the page numbers appears in the article, but the name of the source is in the citation list while others have been left and you have grouped all Falls refs together but not others. I've never seen this before and I don't understand what you have done or why. Can you please undo it? --Rskp (talk) 07:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. I reduced the number of refs from ~180 to ~80 with no loss of info and linked them to the refs below. I'm happy to patch the result to fix errors I introduced, but I think this way is shorter/better. That's just me. I left the existing named refs alone. I'm happy if someone wants to merge those also. Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 08:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I still don't understand why you reduced the number of refs in such an arbitrary way. Your personal approach to refs is not required for GAR. I don't need you to 'patch the result to fix errors' whatever that may mean, could you please just revert all your changes to the citations back to the way they were before you started your copyedit? --Rskp (talk) 03:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The reason that I reduced the # of refs is that they contained lots of redundant info and took up a lot of space. I left the already-named refs and those that contained additional info. Why do you want the change undone? Lfstevens (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no redundant info in the citations. The reason I want you to undo your changes to the citations is as I've already explained - that your idiosyncratic approach to the refs in this article is not required for a GA - the reason the copyedit was requested. For the third time, please undo your changes to the citations. --Rskp (talk) 03:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I fear we're talking past each other. They may not be required, but they're not forbidden, either and they have benefits which you have not rebutted. Why not open a discussion about this on the talk page and see what the world thinks?Lfstevens (talk) 04:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The benefits you talk about are completely negated by the complexity of the refs as they now stand. It seems you have created this problem, are refusing to fix it and now wish to take up as much time as you can. Thanks but no thanks. --Rskp(talk) 04:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You click the refs as before, and the footnotes now link to the refs. It's unWP like to dictate how things have to be. Chill.Lfstevens (talk) 05:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I couldn't agree more, please do not "dictate how things have to be." I suggest you keep your personal style for articles you create, and respect the styles of the editors who work on the articles, you copyedit. --Rskp (talk) 07:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)


 * For your information Citing sources states "If an article already has citations, adopt the method in use or seek consensus on the talk page before changing it." I suggest that, in your future copyedit work, you bear this in mind. --Rskp (talk) 04:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * In the process of changing the citations you changed the dates of several from two different publications by the same author. This is a serious error on your part which has now been fixed. In the future I hope you will show respect for the work you are editing. --Rskp (talk) 06:33, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Thanks for noticing! Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 03:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

GOCE
I was wondering if you could give "The Little Guy" a copy-edit. It is already at GAN (the reviewer has requested a copy-edit) and I only have six days left. Thanks, TBrandley 02:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. I'll try. Please add to Requests page: WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. Lfstevens(talk) 03:35, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Its already there, at the very bottom. Thanks! TBrandley 03:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you on your copy edits on Bu Bu Jing Xin and Flashpoint (comics). To express my gratitude, here a link for you to download a copy the soundtrack of The Dark Knight Rises.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * THanks for noticing. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 03:21, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Drama Queen !
Hello, I noticed you left some comments on the Talk page of Drama Queen (Ivy Queen album). (I'd reply there, though I do not know if you are watching that page.) I've looked for total sales of the releases with no luck, is there a certain website that would have this information. And also about the picture.. where? Cheers! --DivaKnockouts (talk) 14:25, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no idea where to look. I was just saying....Lfstevens (talk) 15:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok... And what about the picture? -- DivaKnockouts (talk) 22:33, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Spider-Man
Please don't stop copyediting because I am editing. You are not in the way. I am also curious to see if I clarified what you said should be clarified better. Jhenderson 7 7 7  19:42, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd appreciate it if you'd hold off until I finish (an hour?) I hate messing around with conflicts. Lfstevens(talk) 19:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok. I didn't realize you were a guild of copy editor at the time. ;) Jhenderson  7 7 7  19:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * What do you mean that I couldn't wait? Those were previous edits before you even told me to not edit. You didn't need to put that in the edit summary. Jhenderson 7 7 7  01:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No harm done. Good luck with the piece. Lfstevens (talk) 01:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

You're copyediting's done? Jhenderson 7 7 7  02:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think so, says completed on the GOCE page. TBrandley 02:21, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I also checked there too to make sure he said that and sure enough he did. Jhenderson  7 7 7  02:23, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Natural farming
An article that you have been involved in editing, Natural farming, has been proposed for amerge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Nirvana2013(talk) 06:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC) Nirvana2013 (talk) 06:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Huge favor!
I'm sorry to bother you, but if you are willing to do so, could you please give a copyedit to this James Dean sandbox? I originally put most of the content onto the main article, but it was revert, and one editor has some concerns with some bits of the prose. He made some edits in the lead, but I'm not very comfortable with the flow of it. Other than a few careless errors, I don't see any issues with it. If you could take a look at it, it would be very appreciated. :) —DAP388(talk) 03:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look, but it will be a few days. Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 04:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Question about references
Hi. I noticed you added reference templates to The Magpie (Monet). While I have no plans on changing your edits, and appreciate the work you did, I'm curious, is this a normal function of the copyediting team? I ask, because I stopped using citation templates last year and find that they get in the way of editing the article. My understanding is that citation templates shouldn't be added if they aren't already in use. Again, I'm not looking for you to remove them, and I'm perfectly happy with the work you did, but I would like some clarification on this for future reference. Viriditas (talk) 03:13, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I like cites because they're "smarter" than the old way (easier links, more consistent formatting, and someday, I hope indexed/linked across articles). I don't know about any policy about not using them, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.Lfstevens (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the copyedit
Hi, just wanted to say thanks for the copyedit of Murder of Celine Figard. Paul MacDermott (talk) 14:01, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 15:50, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Dodo
In a recent edit, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to another English-speaking country, such as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, use the variety of English used there. For an international topic, use the form of English that the original author used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. --John (talk) 20:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * My unintentional bad. Thanks for pointing it out. Lfstevens (talk) 21:27, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries; sorry for the template; what happened? You undid a bunch of copyedits I had made following the discovery that this was supposed to be written in British English. --John (talk) 22:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll stop editing until you're done. No need to step on each other. Lfstevens (talk) 22:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That certainly wasn't my intention, and I am sorry if you took it that way. I just wondered how you managed to undo a bunch of my edits in the process of yours. I think I am just about done now anyway. --John (talk) 08:09, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm done, too. Enjoy! Lfstevens (talk) 15:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Pyramid of Neferefre
Hello,

thank you very much for your copyedits! Now the prose reads much smoother than before :). Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 09:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 15:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Project X
Hello Lfstevens, thank you for copyediting this article. Just a query, i notice you stopped at the release section. Does that mean the lower sections are ok? Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Missed a spot. Thanks for pointing it out. Lfstevens (talk) 06:29, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks muchly for your time LFstevens.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work on Batman as well :D Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: John Neulinger
Thank you again for your exceptional work with copyediting. Regarding John Neulinger, you tagged a statement for clarification and I'm wondering how to proceed. The statement follows: "Neulinger envisioned a world where the very concept of a "job" was no longer plausible, where work would be leisure-oriented." Would expanding this statement help clarify? Footnote 3 clarifies part of it, but I think you are asking for clarification about the "leisure-oriented" work part, correct? Viriditas (talk) 00:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The notion of "leisure-oriented work" made no sense to me. I've always seen leisure as work's opposite.Lfstevens (talk)
 * Well, that's Neulinger's entire thesis. He's defined "leisure-work" as an activity in a post-industrial world where intrinsic reward and perceived freedom is balanced with extrinsic reward and the lack of perceived freedom such that people are self-actualized.  In many ways, Neulinger was anticipating theinformation society and the skills needed by knowledge engineers.  If you've worked in IT, then you know that the workplace has been completely redefined and the notion of work has been reinvented, much in the same vein as Neulinger's thesis.  In other words, the idea of working 9-5 is no longer relevant for many new technology companies (you come in and get the work done when you can) and the notion of these jobs as "work" is almost a foreign concept since many of these IT workers are doing what they love and enjoy every minute of it. Is this making sense?  I will attempt to explain it in detail, but I hope you see what Neulinger was getting at. This is particularly true in terms of management styles.  The notion that workers in America should "enjoy" their jobs was pretty much unheard of until 20 years ago. Neulinger was way ahead of the curve. Viriditas (talk) 06:24, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I hope you'll amplify the point in the article, too. I've been wondering what's going to happen to work as computers and robots continue eating jobs. We haven't created net jobs in the US since 2000, except in health care, whose resistance to productivity improvements via IT and real competition can't last forever. Don't know if it will be leisurious or not...Lfstevens (talk) 13:19, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you


Thank you for copy editing Karwar ! -Rayabhari (talk) 05:26, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing! Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 06:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

BJJ ranking system copyedit
First, I'd just like to say thank you for taking the time to copyedit the BJJ ranking system page. While the vast majority of the page looks vastly improved, there were a few sentences that I found confusing and where critical words had been removed. For example, "Many students remain blue belts at least 3 years of dedicated training as a blue belt to achieve." confused me, but I admit I know very little about copyediting. I'm trying to take some time to add back the missing info without damaging any of your much appreciated improvements but I certainly wouldn't mind if you might take a second look when I'm done and make sure it adheres to all grammatical standards. At any rate, thanks again. Buddy23Lee (talk) 22:03, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching them. I'll take a look when you're ready. Lfstevens (talk) 22:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you good sir. I think I've added back the pertinent info but also likely cluttered it up again. I don't know how well those little belt rank sections lend themselves to copy-editing but anything we can do to get them up to snuff without losing too much of the content would be fantastic. Again, thank you for all that you do. Buddy23Lee (talk) 22:03, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem I was trying to fix was that each rank should include what it takes to achieve it, rather than describing what is necessary to achieve the next rank. I didn't change it again. I still prefer my approach. Lfstevens (talk) 22:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. Yes, that could be problematic given that the belts don't really have many formal requirements and more contain themes that surround each rank, particularly as it relates to earning the next one. Maybe I can move some of that material to the actual ranks in question rather then just referencing them. At any rate, I'll stop troubling you with all this. Thank you for your time sir. Buddy23Lee (talk) 19:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Beatles RfC
Hello Lfstevens; this message is to inform you that there is currently a public poll to determine whether to capitalize the definite article ("the") when mentioning the band " THE BEATLES " mid-sentence. As you've previously participated either here,here, orhere, your input would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. For the mediators. ~ GabeMc  (talk 22:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Appreciated your Nigamananda work
Dear friend,

The original name of Nigamananda is 108 Paramahansa Shree Mad Swami Nigamananda Saraswati Deva.

Really your work is appreciated. This article Nigamananda was waiting since long time for perfect person, who could give final touch and finally you did it. Your work remains excellent in wikipedia history.

My best wishes with you always. Dcmpuri (talk) 04:38, 26 September 2012
 * May this be your final incarnation! Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 07:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Brazilian Military Cemetery of Pistoia
Hi Lfstevens, how are you? I saw you helped the page La Madrague (song) I've made, and as I'm not a good English writer, please, I ask again your help.

If you have 5 minutes, I ask you to correct my mistakes in this new page, can you? I put also copy-edit. Thanks a lot for your precious help.

Rex Momo (talk) 12:35, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Enjoy. Lfstevens (talk) 14:17, 27 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot!!! And sorry to have written the name of another User... :-)

Ancient Egyptian afterlife beliefs
Hello. Back in July you copy edited this article and put a merge tag on it, which I just noticed today. Although I very much appreciate the cleanup, I disagree with the merge proposal and have given my reasoning on the talk page, here. I just wanted to notify you and give you a chance to reply. A. Parrot (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I realize the article has serious defects, and I'd be willing to turn it into a redirect until a proper article on the subject is written. I just don't think Egyptian mythology should be the redirect target. Would it be acceptable to you if it were redirected to Ancient Egyptian religion? A. Parrot (talk) 00:26, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Lfstevens (talk) 00:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

The Magpie
I wanted to let you know that I've added your name to the heading. Let me know if that is OK, or feel free to remove it. Thanks.Viriditas (talk) 23:13, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries...Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 04:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Siege of Constantinople (717–718)
Thanks for the copyedit, well done. Cheers, Constantine  ✍  08:40, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Whoa!
Hi. I think you need to slow down a little and use the preview. Please take a look at this (infobox) and this (References section). --Stfg (talk) 09:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Doh! My editor showed extra braces...Lfstevens (talk) 06:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Selena
I reverted your additions of subsections since this is a list which needs a proper lead. Best, Jona  talk to me  19:01, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Jona, that isn't a proper lead, it's a wall of text containing minute detail with no evident structure. Please try to imagine what a reader who doesn't know much about Selena will make of it. A lead is supposed to be a summary. Lfstevens's division into section was a huge improvement. (Addition of a higher-level summary at the top wouldn't be a bad idea, though.) --Stfg (talk) 19:57, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I suggest reverting your reversions and writing the lead, AJona1992! Lfstevens (talk) 06:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Catullus 16
Ping :) --Stfg (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Dius Fidius
Thanks for your efforts at Dius Fidius. I'm sorry to say I was the one who dumped the disastrous copy there when I was trying to edit Jupiter (mythology), a much more highly trafficked article that was full of similar content from a particular editor (it still needs some work). The editor who contributed the material is very erudite, but English is not his first language, and there are longstanding problems with his overly technical and esoteric approach to writing articles on Roman deities. He always insists his meaning is perfectly clear, so I'm glad to know that you might agree with me to the contrary. It's hard to copyedit when you don't know what on earth he's trying to say.

Because this is an area I work in a lot, I've had to spend hours and hours reading the sources just to copyedit his contributions. See also Janus, which is unreadably obscure, and Neptune (mythology). And there are others, unfortunately. So far I've found no mechanism on WP for dealing with good-faith edits that serve only the individual's preoccupations, and don't produce content that's usable for the readers most likely to come to these articles. If you have any procedural suggestions, please leave me a note on my talk page. He hasn't edited in a while, but it isn't unusual for him to take a break and then come back to dump a massive amount of these 'notebook jottings,' as one of my fellow editors called them. Cynwolfe (talk) 12:54, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say there's strength in numbers. Gather a posse and let the guns blaze. Lfstevens (talk) 16:02, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Voivode of Transylvania
Thank you for starting to edit the above article. Borsoka (talk) 13:26, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Cheers! Lfstevens (talk) 18:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you again. I am working on it. Have a nice day! Borsoka (talk) 02:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

your edit of Eye of the Serpent
Just out of curiosity, not being a native speaker of English: AFAIK in phrases with simple present tense in the if-clause, you use future tense (not present tense) in the main clause? Drow69 (talk) 10:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It depends on the intended meaning. Check out "subjunctive" and "indicative". Lfstevens (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Copy-editing Jürgen Ehlers
Many thanks for your helpful copy-editing of Jürgen Ehlers! I'll do some last tweaking on the article and then make it an FAC.Markus Poessel (talk) 12:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing. Good luck with your project. Lfstevens (talk) 18:20, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Ununseptium
Hey there! Those awards in the previous edition, they... They are worth a lot. Congrats!

Which probably tells me you're a perfect person to ask for a copyedit. I would really love you to do this. Any Wiki-paybacks requested in return will be completed, I promise :)

There are two points which may scare you away, but they aren't as scary as they seem.


 * Complicated subject. If you know anything about it, good! If not, even better! There have been some concerns it is not readable for those who are not common with it. A copyedit could solve this problem. If only you could do it!


 * Open FAC. Yes, it does sound bad. We... We were stupid maybe. Or too happy about what we have written. We didn't see that coming, the user to have participated in PR (and even first FAC commenters) were happy about it, menthioned little to no prose problems. The lesson has anyway been learned. I swear it's been.

I also checked your contributions: you haven't been involved in active editing of anything during last three days. Can I hope it means you're free?

If you have any questions about anything, article-related or not, I'll be happy to answer them!

Please RSVP!--R8R Gtrs (talk) 20:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd love to help, but I have some other things cooking at the moment. Your best bet is to add it to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests page which typically receives prompt attention. Good luck. Lfstevens (talk) 00:00, 4 December 2012 (UTC)