User talk:Liberated169

Grace Engineered Products
A tag has been placed on Grace Engineered Products, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of Grace Engineered Products and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. - Warthog Demon  19:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC) The next time you create an inappropriate page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. - Warthog Demon  21:09, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Please refrain from creating inappropriate pages. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. - Warthog  Demon  19:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Stop_hand.svg|left|30px]] This is your last warning.

March 2008
in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below.


 * I am considering granting this unblock request, however, I will only do so under the agreement that you will stop trying to create the article about Grace Engineering Products. You clearly have a conflict of interest as defined by WP:COI, and such a conflict of interest is preventing you from creating an article that does NOT violate Wikipedia's basic core policies.  If you state that you agree to cease creating this article, I will unblock you.  If you cannot agree to this, you will remain blocked.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  23:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

This is the first page I have ever created. I am still trying to figure this thing out. Just so I know, can you explain a little bit more to me on why this is a conflict of interest? Does that fact that i asked the writer of the piece for permission have anything to do with it? Also i believe that Grace Engineered Products is noteworthy for having its own page because it holds 2 US patents, Does millions of dollars of business a year, and basically has a monopoly on this market while Grace  isn't a consumer products company either is Rockwell Automation. Rockwell Automation is in the same industrial kind of business that Grace is in and it has a Wikipedia page. If I rewrote this piece from a completely neutral point of view and used similar citations that i tried to use previously would you still unblock me? Oh, a question on that, did you find that my use of those links was not spamming? I was looking for sources to make it more credible. Thank-you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liberated169 (talk • contribs)

How to work on "draft" articles in your Userspace
Creating a "draft" article in your own userspace is a way to get an article up to standards before actually "publishing" it in the mainspace, and thus helps stop it from being deleted so quickly. In general, you are given much more lee-way in what you do with your userspace than in the main article space. You are still forbidden from publishing copyright violations, advertising, or using your userspace to attack or defame people. However, you are given a lot more freedom to use your userpage and user sub-pages to do with as you need. Here's how to create a subpage:


 * 1) Create a subpage (see WP:SUBPAGE and WP:USERPAGE for more info). You can do this by editing your main userpage for you it's User:Liberated169 ) and creating a new page with a "slash" in the title.  Do it this way:
 * 2) Create your userpage User:Liberated169
 * 3) Create a wikilink on your userpage using a "slash" as the first character (such as /DRAFT or something)
 * 4) Save your user page and click on the newly created "slash" link. This creates the "subpage" named User:Liberated169/DRAFT.  Edit this new page and save it.
 * 5) This new subpage will allow you to work on the article at your own pace, and will give you time to craft an article that is compliant with all Wikipedia policies and guidelines.
 * 6) Once you have a compliant article, feel free to contact me or another exprienced user, and we can help you fix up the article further, or we can help you "move" it to the main article space to be a regular article.

I hope that helps you. If you need any further help, please feel free to leave me a note on my talk page, and I will see what I can do. --Jayron32. talk . contribs 17:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I looked over your draft article. I wouldn't move it to the mainspace yet; it still clearly shows no signs of being a notable company.  It may well BE a notable company, but there is no evidence within the article that shows that it is.  What you need to do is find and cite sources from independent press that show that the company is an industry leader; makes novel and important products, etc.  Something that says that someone, outside of the company itself, has written extensively about the company.  You might want to read the following guidelines:

for more information. If you have access to these sources, but don't understand the technical aspect of including them in the article, please let me know and I will be glad to help you! --Jayron32. talk . contribs 23:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:N
 * WP:CORP
 * WP:CITE
 * WP:RS