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Happy editing! Cheers, Grayfell (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

June 2024
Hello LievelsP. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Shopify, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:LievelsP. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Grayfell (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I am not paid by Shopify nor anyone else to make edits to Wikipedia. I do not have any conflict of interest. It is ironic to receive this message from an editor who adds misinformation to Wikipedia, incorrectly editing what I added (with good sources) to suggest Shopify launched a TikTok app in 2022. That is clearly false, it was launched in 2020. I believe in accuracy in my edits. I would suggest that you spend more time making sure that you do not add more false information instead of making accusations. Sincerely, -Peter 21:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for clarifying. Is this your only account? Your account's first activity was to add lengthy press-release-like material to an article, including with using sophisticated formatting. The Shopify article had a recent history of promotional editing, also. If this is not your first account, please make sure you are following WP:SOCK.  To avoid this issue in the future, please avoid adding promotional business cliches and jargon to articles, as Wikipedia is a general audience encyclopedia and not a press release service.
 * Saying it's "ironic" implies that I have a conflict of interest myself, which is strange. I do not have a conflict of interest here. Further, "misinformation" accuses me of intentionally deceiving, which is not my intent. Further, following me to another talk page to support inappropriate edits to a completely unrelated article is disruptive and is unlikely to go well. If you continue to do that, it will be seen as WP:HOUND, and you will likely be blocked from editing.
 * As for sources, please see WP:TECHCRUNCH, WP:BUSINESSINSIDER, and more generally, WP:DUE. Not every routine business detail needs to be included. If a reliable, independent source indicates why that details is important, provide that context to readers instead of adding isolated vaguely-promotional factoids. Grayfell (talk) 22:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I am not sure why you're coming up with these conspiracy theories now, but I didn't use any sophisticated formatting. It's all very simple with the visual editor, and wiki markup is quite a basic language derived from more complex languages I am fluent in. I question your competence if you think anything I have done is "sophisticated". Further, the irony is quite clear in attacking me while undoing my edits and adding misinformation to the article. This is my only account, and your suggestion that I am being paid to edit is ridiculous. Linked from your hounding article is another policy on civility. Perhaps you could review that. I will leave the Shopify article, which I am not paid to edit, moving forward and hope to avoid further interactions with you. Cheers. Sincerely, -Peter 18:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)