User talk:Light current/archive6

Jazz etc
I don't think that tune would benefit from alternative performances (not that either of us was suggesting it), but especially not Jazz (I'm presuming you're a Jazz afficianado btw). The only really good Jazz interpretation from another genre I heard was All along the Watchtower played by cafe crooner + piano in a TV series Oliver Stone did abt 10 years ago.

I do have a dream of arranging/producing Whole Lotta Love for String Quartet (inc my own variations and smashing of the Strads at the end :) ), but since I don't play an instrument (actually am dyspraxic despite 'think' assertion on userpage) and my music theory is largely BS it's probably a pipe dream. Rentwa 11:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

tinker tailor

 * Oh no not a jazz version. The tune as it sounds is superb and I dont think it could be changed in style. I was just trying to think of alternative instrumnetation. Boy sopranos are a bit rare these days 8-)--Light current 17:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Village pump (proposals)
You applied seemingly random levels of indentation to other users' comments, thereby removing the correct context of these replies and those that followed (including mine). You also failed to properly indent your own comments. I addressed these issues, and you responded by unindenting your replies (thereby moving them back to the wrong level) and instructing me to not "mess around." What on Earth do you mean, and why are you behaving in this manner (which borders on vandalism)? &mdash;David Levy 01:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * See my user page for my indentation method. Its quite logical and since I initiated the thread I feel I have a right to use it. Please dont exaggerate this into vandalism. It plainly is nothing if the sort. THanks --Light current 01:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * No offense, but your indentation method is patently illogical. The goal is to specify the message to which one is replying, not the order in which users joined the discussion (an utterly irrelevant piece of information).  Your edit removed all context, thereby rendering the conversation impossible to follow.  No, you aren't entitled to restructure discussions in a manner contrary to the community's standard.  &mdash;David Levy 01:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * We'll see! &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by Light current (contribs) 01:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC).


 * How, under your proposed system, are readers supposed to determine which message someone has replied to? &mdash;David Levy 02:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * So can you tell me your logic for structuring posts on talk pages? I shall be proposing my system shortly on VPP --Light current 02:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * "My logic" is the same as everyone else's (except yours). A post is indented one level beyond the post to which it responds, thereby ensuring that the context is clear.  Again, I ask you to explain how your system accomplishes this vital function.  &mdash;David Levy 03:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well? &mdash;David Levy 03:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * People reply to the thread not a specific msg.--Light current 04:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * That's complete and utter nonsense! If this were true, why would anyone bother to indent their messages in the conventional manner?
 * Discussions frequently branch off into several different directions, and adding one level of indentation often is the only way to preserve context. Otherwise, it would be difficult or impossible to know which portion of the discussion someone is addressing.  &mdash;David Levy 04:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * If people need addressing David, I address them. Its clear Im talking to you isnt it?--Light current 04:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * You and I are the only two people participating in this discussion! &mdash;David Levy 04:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

You are clearly trying to provoke me. Please desist. Wait for my proposal.--Light current 04:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * In what manner am I "trying to provoke" you? &mdash;David Levy 04:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Diffrent threads obviously need diffrent (sub)hdgs. --Light current 00:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:VPP
You are trolling. Stop it. Whatever your motive, your logic-free assertions are being nothing other than disruptive and you will not achieve whatever goal you have in mind. This is unacceptable behaviour. Go and edit usefully. Sam Korn (smoddy) 23:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Or youll block me? Yeah ! Big stick again!--Light current 23:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I do not intend to be provoked by your incoherent ranting. It is patantly obvious that you entered into that discussion spoiling for a fight.  This isn't cool.  Sam Korn (smoddy) 23:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually I didnt. I thought my statements were quite coherent! I was trying to improve the administration procedures on WP. Dont get upset: I cannot harm you!--Light current 23:26, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * If that really was your intention, I apologise for assuming bad faith on your part. As advice, check that this kind of issue has not been brought up before by other users, present reasoned arguments for your change and try to avoid attacking other users when they disagree with you.  Thanks, Sam Korn (smoddy) 23:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Apologies to you Sam! I ony defend when attacked!--Light current 23:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry!
I keep pulling yor leg on the RD. Sorry! Rentwa 22:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Moving award to user page for safe keeping.

I've only been here a month and still feel like a bit of a noob - you're one of the friendliest people on the RD and give it a really welcoming feel! Rentwa 23:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Well thank you so much whoever you are. Please tell others Im a teddy bear!--Light current 23:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Still Rentwa - just forgot to sign last post :) . Rentwa 23:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Shucks I thought I had another fan as well! THenks again!

AfD on an article you worked on
If you would like to throw your two cents, you can find the AfD discussion here: Articles for deletion/NATO helmet.--Anthony Krupp 15:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

RD date headers
I'll help with this. More than one looking in should help. Careful, I've noticed that you put September 1 up too soon. The time-stamps on the pages are UTC and going by that, is where the first question of each new date should be (that helps a lot when it's time to archive). If you need to find the first question of any date remember that the page history is in your local time zone (confusing eh). Also, when I find that the first question is unsigned I usually add the template as a marker for future archivists. Let me know if I can clarify further. This post is happening about 1 minute before September 1. ;-) --hydnjo talk 23:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * OK thanks. Yes I got confused between local time and UTC.--Light current 00:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

(after edit conflict) Oops, sorry about posting in the wrong place (I didn't read before I wrote). Also, I only had to move 1 of your date headers (WP:RD/S) as only 1 question was posted there after the September 1 header while it was still August. No questions were posted on any of the other sections so they're fine. --hydnjo talk 00:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


 * THank you

Archives
If you need to search the archives for old questions, use google and just include the path to the archives. You pretty much get 100% results that way, as in this random example search. freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ  13:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes Thanks Gav

Anchoress
I see this thread Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents at WP:ANI. I'd like to suggest a word to the wise... you should probably let that whole thing go and return to providing useful technical answers to questions asked instead of trying to engage Anchoress in conversation. When you provide technical answers that are good quality, it helps the encyclopedia. But the reference desk is high visibility and too much banter or even stuff that could be perceived as unwanted advances makes all of Wikipedia look bad. Sometimes you just can't be everyone's friend, and it may be best to let things go. So please give that some thought ok? Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 04:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * OK removed latest conciliatory remarks - at least those I can find.--Light current 08:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I saw your comments on this AN/I thread and sometimes... trust me... the best thing to do is nothing. I'd let this go... your characterisations may not be interpreted correctly, and may make things look worse. You may be best off just not interacting further with the user. You can't always get an apology from someone and you can't always get your apology accepted either, as much as you might want to, that's just the way it is. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 18:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Given up looking for acceptance of apology. Just explaining situation to others who may read WP AN/I. I am not interacting with the user at all now. Those posts were for general admin audience not a specific user. I dont understand the term characterisations. Are you saying I should not have replied at all on AN/I? If so, where should I have put these explanations? Is defence of actions not allowed there?--Light current 23:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * No, nt saying that it's not allowed to defend actions on AN/I, for it certainly is... I'm just staying that in this case, at this point, not doing anything more is probably better than further defense, and that just giving good answers on the help desk pages is probably better than using them for too much banter. I am trying not to belabor the point myself... hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 06:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey
Hmm, interesting how your talk page chrono-format is reversed. Anyway, you mentioned "we are only 14!" at the science Desk, and that prompts me to talk to you. Hey, from your page I figured you must have been 16. Well hi. I really do admire your edit count, I wish I had more time to edit. This summer I had school, and now I have school again, and I will graduate at the end of the year, so I have to pack extra classes in. Months before summer I could pack in almost a hundred edits a night! Period. (redundant, I know) How's life? You must know a bit about electronics, to join Wikiproject:Electronics, or is it just that you know a lot, and are interested. I like physics (OMGWTFHTMLBBQ), paleoclimatology (r0xx3r5 my sox), anthropology, sociology, nanotechnology (field I will be going into), and writing nonfiction (philosophy, observations, essays). Yeah. Yeah. — [  Mac Davis ] (talk)
 * You mustnt believe everything you read Mac! (esp here)unless youve worked it out for yourself and it makes sense to you. Im much older than 14. I was just joking that character on the ref desk. Im an ex electronics engineer actually. Best of luck with your education (I dont think youll need much luck actually!)--Light current 01:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok. Ha! Well, I figured you wouldn't lie and I made an assumption.. .yeah whatever, you already know. So you are 16! Just kidding. Where do you find the time to make so many edits? "Unless you've worked it out for yourself and it makes sense to you." Ahh, I think I like you even more now. :) When I hit electrical engineering if I have to take that class maybe I'll come to you for that. You said "much older." So that means you're over 30 than? — [  Mac Davis ] (talk)


 * Everyone lies. Some tell little lies, some tell big ones. But everyone lies. Yes older. I am not in electronics or education anymore. Yes, dont believe things just because someone says its true or its right to believe such a thing.. Ask them to prove it to your satisfaction. Time is not a problem to me -- I have lots. You however will have less and less time as you grow older. Dont waste it on WP. There are more impotant things in life for you.


 * How embarrassing. Any chance you work at a university? I need someone to send me papers because I can't subscribe to every single journal on the internet like universities do. — [  Mac Davis ] (talk)

No I dont!

Resilience
Move award to user page for safe keeping!

Hey thats fantastic Lar.(and totally unexpected of course) I really appreciate it and will treasure it always. I havent been so pleased since I got a personal message from Jimbo! Thanks!--Light current 18:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've never got one of those :) ... I was hoping this might cheer you up nicely, looks like it worked. See you around, my friend. ++Lar: t/c 19:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes indeed Lar!! I thank you so much for your faith in me! You are my friend also! Must have a drink together sometime!--Light current 23:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

You, Aaadddaaammm and me
Light current, I just saw your big lecture on the wp help pages and I'm pretty miffed at you. I am NOT an admin, and I'd like to know why you think I AM one. I have NEVER tried to be ANYTHING BUT HELPFUL TO YOU, and you are treating me very poorly IMO. I warned you because I was worried that your behaviour was going to get you blocked. THEN I removed the posts after you got blocked (which I had nothing to do with, I didn't report you or anything), because they MADE YOU LOOK BAD and were HURTFUL to the person you wrote them to/about.

THEN when you got blocked for a month I took the trouble to POST YOUR CONCERNS OVER YOUR LONG BLOCK on the AN/I page OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF MY HEART. And then instead of just coming to me and TALKING about this, you post your big complaint on the board, full of inaccuracies. Well you know what? I'm done with you. Lucky you. You'll never have to suffer my help again in the future, good luck and goodbye. Anchoress 08:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


 * So I suppose a date's out of the question now? Schucks! And we seemed to be getting on so well!
 * You say: you post your big complaint on the board, full of inaccuracies


 * Im really not clear which 'lecture' or which 'board' you refer to. I assumed you were an admin because you had removed all those posts. It is generally not allowed for anyone to remove or modify anyone elses posts/


 * I know you have been helpful and I thanked you on my user page.(look in archive5)


 * FYI I just posted an inquiry on AN/I in case the admins haven't seen your questions. Anchoress 05:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much Anchoress! And apologies for any harsh words I said previously to you--Light current 13:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I couldnt talk to you because I was blocked until a few hours ago. I am grateful for your help and Im sorry if Ive given you any grief.