User talk:LightandDark2000/Archive 1

This first talk page archive mainly consists of discussions during my time as an IP editor, before I acquired a user account. This archive includes discussions from 2009 through June 2012.  Light and Dark2000  (talk) 03:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

October 2009 North American storm complex
The storm did not hit California for five days, it hit for only two as it moved through the country. If you check the last source listed in the article, it states that the system in question was affecting Minnesota by October 14. I didn't remember to source it at the time so I don't know if I can find it again but the low pressure system was absorbed by another before it reached the east coast, so that would make what hit the east coast another storm, thus not being mentioned in the article. Additionally, these systems rarely last more than two weeks, a month is well out of the question. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Your edits
Hey, I reverted your edits. First, when it says "Part of the...", it's supposed to link only to the season article. It doesn't do any good linking to the storm section. Also, there's no need to say "Tropical Depression Eleven-E... was also the eleventh tropical depression of the 2010 Pacific hurricane season". It already says TD 11, so it's just redundant. However, I find it great that you're interested in tropical cyclones.

Have you considered joining Wikipedia and becoming an editor? We have a group of editors who work toward improving all tropical cyclone articles, and you do clearly have some skills. If you are interested, you can join the list of members at WikiProjects Tropical cyclones, after you make a user name (which is free and really easy). --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:59, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Tropical Storm Georgette (2010)
Please read the Tropical Cyclone Report on the storm before making further changes to the article. That report is the main source for all info related to the storm. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:08, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Response
I completely understand your frustration but the information you're adding is not verifiable. The most official source for tropical cyclone articles in the Eastern Pacific and Atlantic, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, does not back up your claim. The National Hurricane Center gives no indication of Georgette having any effects in the southwestern United States in their Tropical Cyclone Report. Recent information released by the Hydrometeorological Prediction Center follows this. The rainfall graphic produced by the center has no mention of any rain in the United States.

In regards to Hurricane Tomas, I don't doubt the accuracy of what you're adding, as I saw what you described as well, but it needs to be sourced. As a rule of thumb, always add at the end of any new information you put into an article. It allows other people to verify the information you added in the article. Also, another concern was brought about one of the sites you are claiming to be citing from. It's been determined that 10Spider Weather is not a reliable source and cannot be used to cite information on Wikipedia.

Lastly, my intent was not to accuse you of any vandalism, I don't see your edits as being such in any way. However, they tend unintentionally unverifiable and at times original research. I'm quite happy that there's another person who wants to expand upon the quality of tropical cyclone articles and I wish you'll stay on the site but with anything, there are some rules behind it.

Regards, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 01:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Tropical cyclone designations
I'm just asking a question: what basin uses the identifier "S"? (For example, 03S) Please inform me on my talk page as soon as possible, so that I can understand, and so that I might stop creating those "edits."
 * The identifier S along with the identifier P are assigned by the JTWC to the "Southern Hemisphere" basin. Allthough it should be noted that the JTWC do not monitor all systems monitored by the warning centers of the SHEM- The systems in question were deleted because they were not assigned either the U or the F identifier and are therefore not official, though one of the systems in question were plonked into the SWIO Basin as it was designated as TD 2 by Reunion.Jason Rees (talk) 01:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, the Joint Typhoon Warning Center, a branch of the US Navy, designates all Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclones that form west of 135°E with a "S". They designate all Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclones that form east of 135°E with an "P". While there are different "letters", the numbers are used in the same order, Ex. After TC 03S can come TC 04P. After that can come TC 05S (05 is the number of the storm, S is the designator). Hope this helps! &mdash;  Iune (talk)  03:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I asked a few of the other project members about including the unofficial storms, but they said no, as they haven't gotten an F number or a U number for an official identifier, and are therefore unofficial.Jason Rees (talk) 02:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

A belated welcome!
Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, LightandDark2000. I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia: Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post.
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Again, welcome! Tropical Analystwx 13 (talk) 23:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Pacific Tropical Cyclones
Would you mind providing me with the link to the website(s) in which you got your information? I just can't locate your source of information. If you do, that would be really helpful to me. Thank you!
 * They are all at the bottom of the article, and are also on my userpage. - The JMA is the main one.Jason Rees (talk) 17:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Post-Tropical Cyclones
Well, if Post-Tropical Cyclones are actually extratropical, then why does the NHC state that they have a chance to redevelop? (For instance: Hurricane Eugene (2011), and Tropical Storm Emily (2011).)
 * To be honest I don't know the reasoning behind it, but I do know that Gert is still considered to be a Post-Tropical Cyclone by the OPC, and not extratropical.Jason Rees (talk) 01:40, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

User name
Hey there! I see you edit Wikipedia a lot. Have you thought about creating a user name? It helps people know who you are, instead of the random digits of numbers that you are currently seen as. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)--♫ Hurricanehink ( talk )  20:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I certainly have thought about that. It does sound really nice. You know, I might create a user name sometime, once I get the time to. Well, I will definitely look forward to that.

Removal of talk page warnings
Just as a fyi for this edit - users are allowed to remove warnings from their talk page par WP:R Van, section 5. Any editor may remove warnings from their talk page (This does not go for block templates), though clearing the warnings is just taken as an indication that the user read and accepted them. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh. I guess I didn't know that. Well, another user kept attacking me (about 5 months ago; he kept reverting my good faith edits, and made excuses by calling me a vandalist), and naturally I assumed that you couldn't remove warnings (since he always readded the warnings, and told me that I could not remove them). Well, thanks for the heads-up, I certainly appreciate it. Thanks!!! LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Username
Hi, have you ever considered registering a username for yourself? Might be something you want to think about, it does have its perks. Tropical Analystwx 13 (talk) 23:35, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I have, and it does sound really nice. Who knows, maybe I might create a username for myself, someday soon. LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Aww, come on...You can do it in a minute or less by going here :-) Tropical Analystwx 13  (talk) 23:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Carefull!
Yeah we use UTC but the systems advisories were initiated @ Dec 5 00UTC hence its the 5.Jason Rees (talk) 03:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I didn't know that. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:18, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My information comes directly from the RSMCs - the instance that the final advisory on a storm does not automatically mean that it has dissipated.Jason Rees (talk) 01:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The last TWO said that it was dissipating as we speak but that was 12 hrs ago.Jason Rees (talk) 01:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Storm has dissipated on December 16. Thanks for the update! LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Heads up
Hi, if you did not know, the National Hurricane Center releases Tropical Cyclone Reports on each individual storm that formed at the end of each hurricane season. In this case, they upped Bret's maximum sustained winds from 55 knots (65 mph) to 60 knots (70 mph). You can find all of the Tropical Cyclone Reports they have releases here. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think I got that. But just where do they release the TCRs? LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclone Fina (2011)
Can you please give me a link to your source? I would very much appreciate a new source of tracking data (which I may be able to use as well). LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:03, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Check the New Caledonia marine bulletins. &mdash;Bruvtakesover (talk!) 19:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What is the website? LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This is what it states:
 * GENERAL SITUATION: THE FORMER TROPICAL DEPRESSION NOW FINA
 * Subtropical depression was centered at 12 UTC on 23/12 BY 22.6OS
 * 157E D: THEREFORE: WINDS ASSOCIATED REACH 35 TO 40
 * KNOTS

&mdash;Bruvtakesover (talk!) 19:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (Please update me, upon Fina's dissipation.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:15, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And the bulletin is located here. &mdash;Bruvtakesover (talk!) 19:17, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * However, it is likely that Fina will enter the SPAC basin. &mdash;Bruvtakesover (talk!) 19:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

The New Zealand bulletin mentioned that the system was frontal. 1 &mdash;Bruvtakesover (talk!) 20:30, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

2011 North Pacific typhoon season storm tracks
I have created File:JMA TD39 2011 track.png but you will have to sort out with Jason Rees whether this short lived system gets to be mentioned in the article. Regards--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 22:04, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Have created File:JMA TD40 2011 track.png. As regards Grant I thought I was up-to-date, as regards the NRL trackfile which we use for storms where one is available. What data are you comparing?--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 17:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, seeing as you have updated the summary track (the edit with the statement about Grant's final update) later than Grant's own track, I assumed (I may be wrong) that you may not have given Grant's track "the final update." If I am wrong, please tell me. Thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:44, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops! Sorry, never mind! I overlooked something. You did give Grant the final update. Sorry about that. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:00, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Disruptive IP Warnings
Stop warning this IP. We know that it is a sockpuppet of Typhoonwikihelper.

And will you stop replying to this person and start reverting them? Bruvtakesover (T&#124;C) 07:50, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I will try, if you will help me. This is just too much for me to handle alone. LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:23, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * He's threatening to change IPs each time he is blocked? What am I supposed to do now? Report him to WP:ANI? I don't even know if I can successfully do that. I seriously need help from the Admin. LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:30, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No. ANI will do nothing. Bruvtakesover (T&#124;C) 22:33, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Then where am I supposed to report him? And if I can't report him, then what am I supposed to do? LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

"You will have all your available IPs blocked off" - None of the admins will do that since they are dynamic IPs Bruvtakesover (T&#124;C) 08:40, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a figure of speech. Plus, if he does keep vandalizing, all of his IPs will get blocked off, one by one. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:47, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

IP Range of User:Typhoonwikihelper Added by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

-Note: By June 2014, it had been established that the Typhoonwikihelper accounts were actually a sock family of User:IPhonehurricane95. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Alenga
I think you gave me the wrong line - http://www.webcitation.org/65lHRQWxN points to a modern Tropical Weather Outlook.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 13:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I definitely think you have given me the wrong link and it is producing different results for you than it does for me. This is what I get (sometimes - other times I get nothing): no mention of Alenga at all. This is probably the last thing **I** archived - you may be seeing the last thing **YOU** archived (perhaps it's cached by each of our browsers). Can you copy what you see onto my talk page?:

Original source: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW10800.shtml, recovered at: 2012-02-27 0615Z IDW10800 Australian Government Bureau of Meteorology Western Australia Tropical Cyclone three-day outlook for the Western Region Issued at 2:00pm WST on Monday the 27th of February 2012 Valid until midnight WST Thursday Existing Cyclones in the Western region: Nil. Potential Cyclones: A weak low pressure system lies near 18S091E, and is forecast to move southwest on Tuesday and out of the region. The system will not develop into a tropical cyclone, however gales are possible to the south of the low for a period due to the pressure gradient between the low and a high pressure system to the south. Refer to Ocean Wind Warning 1 [IDW21100] for details. There are no other significant lows in the region and none are expected to develop over the next three days. Likelihood of a tropical cyclone being in the Western Region: Tuesday    :Very Low Wednesday  :Very Low Thursday   :Very Low NOTES: Development Potential is an estimate of the chance of each system being a tropical cyclone in the Region for each day. Very Low: less than 5%      Low:    5% - 20%, Moderate: 20% - 50%         High:   Over 50% The Western Region refers to the Indian Ocean between Longitudes 90-125E and south of 10S. Further information on Tropical Cyclones is available at: www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/ This weather bulletin was retrieved without alteration from the Commonwealth of Australia Bureau of Meteorology web site for purposes of study and research. Consult BoM Copyright Notice for restrictions on reproduction. Bureau of Meteorology Home page
 * Track updated.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 08:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (P.S, I have left new messages for you on your talk page.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Recreating Mediterranean tropical cyclone
With all of the new refs that have been added to User:Atomic7732/Mediterranean tropical cyclone, can we restore this article, and with its contents? LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
 * So, can I take that as a yes? LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Feel free to, but IMO that version isn't written very well (no offense). I have a sandbox for the article in my userspace, but I don't feel like working on it at the moment.  HF 25  00:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

SWIO tracks
I have corrected Koji-Joni (had forgotten about the problems of filing storms which cross basin boundaries). I shall have to to try to get the TD12 points off Bruvtakesover - it's not clear to me where he got them from and they make a very erratic track.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 18:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your efforts! (P.S, come to think of it, the last part of the track does look erratic.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! And don't worry, I'm improving. I'll soon have a new username up and running. (PS, I don't attack IPs. I just get sick of it whenever they cause a lot of trouble (even if it is only one edit), or if they persistently continue to vandalize. My warnings may sound harsh to them, but when vandalists refuse to stop, they have it coming. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand, and that's okay. If you do create an account, don't forget to move your awards to your user homepage too! I bet you will be a great anti-vandal User! Earth100 (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This is quite late, but I added the barnstar to my userpage, as suggested (several years back). :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:17, 9 October 2017 (UTC)