User talk:Lightburst/Archive 1-31-24

Archive 1-31-24

DYK for Jetson One
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Lightburst!


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Wanna see something I've been writing up?
2024 administrative elections proposal. I'd be honored if you gave your feedback :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for working on solutions. In the proposal, present system "Participants frequently cast toxic or uncivil votes without consequence". They actually have harsh consequences. They get their comments erased, they get comments hatted or struck, and in several cases they get blocked. That even happened in your RFA.
 * I think we can make it less complicated. We should just use the same system we use for ARBS. I understand why you chose the "ten days make up the discussion and questioning period" but it would be a terribly long time for a candidate and it may lead to more problems. A period of 4-7 days would likely be enough and then cast votes in securepoll. Lightburst (talk) 15:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Another thing that makes this high stakes is the lifetime appointment. What about probationary admins or term limits. I might take a chance on an admin if I knew they were not in the job for ever and ever. I also think "A candidate with between 55% and 65% of the vote is granted adminship for a period of six months" will be controversial - an editor who cannot get a 65+ does not have the trust of the editors. Many of our editors seem to reflexively vote support as evidenced by the struck supports in RFAs that go sideways. Lightburst (talk) 15:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback :) couple questions: (1) The same system we use for ACE? So, 14 days for discussion with a concurrent 7-day voting window through the back half? (2) what is probationary adminship, if not granting it for a limited time? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 20:31, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I was not familiar with the actual timeline but from what I have seen there is minimal controversy related to arb elections. Like you, I feel that many editors do not vote in RFA if they want to oppose because the candidates do not forget. Admin Deor actually brought up an RFA vote and threw it at the voter in RFA saying I wasn't going to comment in this thread at all, but I have to note the futility of supposing that anything is going to be done here. I've certainly had my run-ins with members of the ARS (several of them, as I expected beforehand that they would, turned out to oppose in my RFA, with DF saying that "I don't really think this person is a good editor") Also the voter may wish to be an admin someday - and voting oppose may hurt them later. JPxG said something about it in their RFA.
 * For your second question, I think granting adminship to those with 55-65% would be controversial - even if it was probationary. For a normal RFA appointment I do not think they should be lifetime appointments, and maybe all admins should be probationary for a time. But one thing at a time. I think voting in private is ideal and I thank you for attempting a proposal. I do not have the clout to make a proposal but you do. In your system a person would not have to make a public declaration which either creates enemies or friends. Imagine if you had to make such a declaration at the polls in front of your neighbors at the polls? I voted for X! And then other editors demand you explain.
 * Unrelated to this discussion, I think I saw you defend Tony B's comments in the RTH RFA. I would say there is no such thing as "objective moral evil" in regard to governments. To the Native Americans, the white people would be an objective moral evil. To the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, the US would be an objective moral evil. When I said history was written by the winners - imagine if the British had won the Revolutionary War. George Washington's would be described as a terrorist by the history books. He has his troops hiding and sneak attacking rather than lining up and facing off with troops. He also killed the Hessians in a surprise attack after crossing the Delaware River. In the eyes of Hessians or British, Washington was a terrorist. Our article on his day after Christmas sneak attack describes him as a hero, and so does American history.Revolutionary War's most logistically challenging and dangerous clandestine operations. Was George Bush objectively evil when he started a war in Iraq which killed roughly 200,000 people based upon either lies or faulty intelligence. So "objective moral evil" is a misnomer and accusing another editor of supporting it, is wrongheaded and a possible aspersion. I imagine there are levels of evil but none of them are objective IMO. Remember the "Are you now or have you ever been..." from the McCarthy era. Lightburst (talk) 23:09, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * For sure, I hear that :) I've upped the numbers to 70% perm/65% temp. I don't think there'll be consensus to end lifetime tenure at RfA, although that's an interesting idea down the road. I didn't defend TonyBallioni's comment there – what I was alluding was the fact that Tony is maybe the most skilled RfA-oppose-vote writer I've ever come across. Put the nail in the coffin of my first RfA and many others – some people break the cycle of hostility by being good at writing oppose rationales and willing to be seen as a meanie sometimes. They're the exception, though, not the rule. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:15, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * wonder if you have any thoughts or advice for this TLC proposal 2024 administrative elections proposal. Lightburst (talk) 17:46, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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DYK for August Palmisano
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Your draft article, Draft:Okauchee Lake


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Your action at RfA
Hey.

Repeating what I said, per the 2015 RfA reforms crats are empowered to make clerking actions, such as those done by AmandaNP a short while ago. Will you please self-revert this? Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, I see that Amanda has already undone this. If you wish to appeal the removal, then I would suggest that you follow her advice and make a request at WP:BN. Please do not remove it again. Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:44, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the messages. I hope we can work together on this great project. I am not appealing, but I moved my own vote to oppose as a placeholder. I am not going to edit war. The RFA process is badly when the majority voters can cancel the votes of the minority voters. Lightburst (talk) 04:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * when the majority voters can cancel the votes of the minority voters That's not what happened here though. Homeostasis07's vote was the equivalent of chucking a grenade and running for the hills. On any other area of the project, the extremely serious and wholly unsupported aspersions that they cast about another editor would have been challenged, and without a relatively swift response (ie, within 24 hours) been removed per multiple policies (WP:CIV, WP:NPA, WP:ASPERSIONS). You cannot say what Homeostasis07 said about another editor without proof. It is only because of a quirk of the RfA process, where we expect crats to take those actions, and how that expectation interacts with the expectation that the role of the crats is to not take controversial actions, that our normal procedures for dealing with this sort of issue don't happen. Basically no-one is either willing or feels able to enforce our normal conduct policies.
 * We are in agreement that RfA is broken, but in my opinion the reason it is broken is because it is the one area where we don't consistently enforce our conduct policies. Sideswipe9th (talk) 04:25, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I like you, and the fact that you talk with me rather than about me. Kudos! So strike the aspersion... not the vote. In my struck neutral I alluded to the "snowball fight" that Homeostasis07 had with the candidate. It is obvious that Homeostasis07 was still smarting over that incident. And they are entitled to oppose based on a personal experience just as voted based on a personal experience in The Night Watch	RFA. We need to let it go, it takes all of us to build this encyclopedia.  Lightburst (talk) 04:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It is obvious that Homeostasis07 was still smarting over that incident. Sure, but that wasn't the thrust of their vote. The background interaction at TFA was there to set the tone and give a little background of what followed. The thrust of their oppose was because of off-wiki meatpuppetry allegations. That's a serious allegation to make against any user, let alone one that the community in general is not set up to handle. This is also one of those situations where, if the allegations hold out as true ArbCom would be extremely likely to desysop, if not indef. Had Homeostasis simply ended their vote with the TFA remark, I don't think everything else that's happened, including this discussion, would have happened. Hell, had they waited to oppose until after they had sent the evidence email to ArbCom and made a vote like Oppose - poor off-wiki conduct, I've emailed evidence of this to ArbCom, there would have been a collective "huh?" but there wouldn't have been cause to strike or redact the vote.
 * Tamzin's oppose of TNW is a different beast entirely. The emphasis behind their oppose was based purely on on-wiki conduct, and was made with supporting evidence. Whether or not you agree with the points they made, or how the result of that vote played out, it was made entirely within the realm of our conduct policies. Sideswipe9th (talk) 05:27, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * In the RTH RFA I looked and saw that Joe Roe had some scraps with them. So they opposed at the RTH RFA. In the Leeky RFA TIG had their lone oppose struck and I reinstated it. Another RFA completed and an oppose was struck after closure. I can name others who were blocked for daring to oppose. How voting should work - editors should vote based on their own reasons. I think we need to protect an editor's right to vote - especially when they are all alone in their vote. Homeostasis07 intended to vote Oppose and we ought to allow them to do so and strike the offending comment about off wiki accusations. Lightburst (talk) 14:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Lightburst. While I have no opinion on your !vote in the latest RfA, I don't like seeing people getting their personal opinions badgered, and I hope you're holding up alright amidst this current discussion. I don't think I could have done much to get prevent you getting badgered at my RfA, but the least I can do is apologize for the attention and flak you received.  The Night Watch     (talk)   17:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the sentiment! I imagine you will eventually prove that all of that hullabaloo in your RFA was wrongheaded. Have a great day and happy editing! Lightburst (talk) 17:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Using an alt on DYK
Hello Lightburst, thank you for moving the Geno (Super Mario RPG) DYK nomination to the queue. It makes me quite happy to see it got approved so quickly. That being said, would it be ok to swap the one that's currently in the queue for Alt 1 of the nominations? Both hooks got approved and personally I think that one is more engaging. Sorry if this request seemed so late, couldn't really make up my mind till now. If it's not allowed to be changed, I will completely understand. All the best, Captain  Galaxy  22:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. I will look into that. Lightburst (talk) 23:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ Lightburst (talk) 23:44, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

ANI
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Re: Olga Hartman
Thanks for the review. I agree with you about the images. I've been trying to figure out how to best approach them. I plan on uploading two images in the next several days, but I'm running into roadblocks on the newer image. The colors are just completely wrong. I believe her student is wearing the crimson USC colors of the doctoral robe and Olga herself is wearing a marine blue dress, but the photo looks all wrong and this disturbs me. What's incredibly weird is that I have a memory (false perhaps) that when I was knee deep working on putting the article together last year, I ran across the same image, except it was color corrected. I can find no such image, but I will keep looking. It's possible it's out there or my mind just wants it to be real, I don't know. Viriditas (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


 * On a whim, I thought about searching through the USC digital archives. Don't know why I never thought of it before. Lots of interesting stuff there.  Just found a video of her on an expedition. Viriditas (talk) 09:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * That's great. I am sure it will only make the article better! Lightburst (talk) 14:24, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I spent a lot of time on this. I determined that the entire film was released by the foundation as CC BY 4.0, but the cut scene of Olga Hartman was strangely absent from the digitized cut scenes in the main archive.  My personal opinion is that this is an administrative error or oversight, as the scene in question is currently only found on the USC Libraries site.  Therefore, I uploaded it as a non-free image, however, I am fairly confident that this image also falls under the CC BY 4.0 licensing, but I have no way of proving it, since I just spent three hours pouring through all the archival footage and deleted scenes on the main site (in high speed), only to discover that they weren't there.  Still, I think the image isn't protected by copyright at all, and one might be able to make an argument that it is still a free image. Another issue that comes up is why was the only woman scientist aboard the entire, decade-long expedition cut from the main documentary film?  I watched the whole film and all of its outtakes, and it's just one long sausage fest.  Really does seem like institutional sexism to me.  I ran across a similar issue while working on a proposed Georgia O'Keeffe article about her time in Hawaii (still in my sandbox right now).  Interestingly, both Hartman's expedition aboard the Velero III and O'Keeffe's trip to Hawaii occurred around the same time in 1940.  O'Keeffe was unable to paint the pineapple plants as she desired because the people who ran Dole said that it was unheard of (and completely unacceptable) for a white woman to mingle with the mixed race farm workers in the fields, let alone a woman artist.  Given that this was the same era, I'm wondering if Hartman was cut for the same reasons, in other words, it was unheard of for women scientists to mingle with men on research expeditions, and what would the common people say if they saw this film?  Women would be demanding to be included in everything!  Cats and dogs would be living together, it would be pandemonium!  Super interesting that I'm seeing the same issues arise across totally different disciplines in the very same year. Viriditas (talk) 21:28, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Sounds like you dud a load of work. The photo requirements are always the trickiest on WP. Lightburst (talk) 00:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
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 * Proposal 2, initiated by, provides for the addition of a text box at Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
 * Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by and, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
 * Proposal 5, initiated by, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
 * Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
 * Proposal 7, initiated by, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
 * Proposal 9b, initiated by, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
 * Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by, , and , respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
 * Proposal 13, initiated by, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
 * Proposal 14, initiated by, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
 * Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by and, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
 * Proposal 16e, initiated by, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
 * Proposal 17, initiated by, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
 * Proposal 18, initiated by, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
 * Proposal 24, initiated by, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
 * Proposal 25, initiated by, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
 * Proposal 27, initiated by, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
 * Proposal 28, initiated by, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

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Your GA nomination of 3:16 game
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Nomination of 3:16 game for deletion
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Your GA nomination of 3:16 game
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 * Thanks for the review . Lightburst (talk) 23:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Shank Hall
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Johnny Buss hook
Hi Lightburst. Thanks for the tweak of the Johnny Buss hook in prep 5. I looked at more sources, and it seems its simplest for the hook to just conservatively state it's "one of the oldest comedy clubs". I've updated and sourced the article as such now. Can you update the prep? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 05:20, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. My edit felt like a waffle. I will change it. Lightburst (talk) 13:50, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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DYK for Randy Travis
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DYK for 3:16 game
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Your GA nomination of August Palmisano
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Your GA nomination of August Palmisano
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 * Thank you for the review. Lightburst (talk) 01:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
 * Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
 * Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
 * Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
 * Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
 * Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
 * Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
 * Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

DYK for Butterfly Theater
RoySmith (talk) 00:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Packers Photos
Thanks for the headstone addition to Bud Lea. Are you local to Wisconsin? I recently visited from quite a distance with a plan to try to get photos of all of the historic sites in the Packers Heritage Trail but weather messed up my one day in Green Bay. See here for a longer comment. If you ever happen to be in the Green Bay area and are willing to grab some photos, I would be super appreciative. No worries either way, just bummed I couldn't get them! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Milwaukee area. St Mary of the Hill is in the shadow of the incredible Holy Hill National Shrine of Mary, Help of Christians. When people visit I always take them there, about 40min drive. The cemetery however is not on those grounds it is a couple miles away. I may get to GB- been a handful of times - the Packers are a religion here I even had dinner with Mark Murphy (American football executive) because my cousin won it in a charity auction. He was great and had great stories. If you ever get to this area I will take you to the cool spots. And if I get back to GB I will let you know so I can snap pics. And if you need pics in the Milwaukee area or within an hour I can get them. I think i am ready to pass the BL GA, will do final check tonight. Lightburst (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Awesome, I really appreciate it! « Gonzo fan2007 <small style="color:#2A2722">(talk)  @ 23:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.  Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 05:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

May music
Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). Thank you for seeing that the baritone's colleague is also notable. - Best wishes for your issues! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks Lightburst (talk) 02:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Question at RfA
Hey Lightburst, I hope you're well. I just wanted to mention I felt your first of the two questions to be rather ambiguous. Is the intention for the candidate to speak about any of the related processes we have, or were you looking for an answer about specific areas? If it was intentionally open ended that's fine, I just wanted to make sure you intended it as such :) Hey man im josh (talk) 18:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Lol! As I'm writing up my question to you the candidate answers the question. Sorry for bothering you!! You can disregard this. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries. There are so many processes so I left it broad. Lightburst (talk) 18:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Cool cool, then I read the intention correctly! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:37, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Debra Pross


Hello, Lightburst. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Debra Pross".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks I don't even remember what the article was about. Lightburst (talk) 05:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alan Kulwicki Memorial Park
Hello! Your submission of Alan Kulwicki Memorial Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Z1720 (talk) 01:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Alan Kulwicki Memorial Park
RoySmith (talk) 00:36, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dan Erlewine
Hello! Your submission of Dan Erlewine at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! RoySmith (talk) 18:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Bent's Camp Resort for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bent's Camp Resort is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Bent's Camp Resort until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Noah Robertson (musician)


A tag has been placed on Noah Robertson (musician) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Noah Robertson (musician) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Noah Robertson (musician) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Noah Robertson (musician) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Recent ANI thread and related events
I’m sorry some users insist on treating you as the community punching bag. I probably still wouldn’t agree with you if I was still active in XFD but I at least seek appropriate venues for such disputes instead of insulting people behind their backs. Dronebogus (talk) 21:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for stopping by. I think you and I both grew as editors in our time here. I am most proud that our hatchets were buried long ago. Lightburst (talk) 21:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Baptism by fire. I know what you’re going through, though at least I’m not aware of anyone doxxing me to win a deletion argument Dronebogus (talk) 21:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Wm335td blocked
This is notice about Sockpuppet investigations/Lightburst. I guess I'll just ask; why the votestacking? Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 22:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You opened and closed your own half-assed investigation basing it on suppositions and innuendo? Stay off my talk page with your phony investigations. Same vocabulary? Same interest in Tuskegee Airmen? as the WM account? I hope that you have the integrity to retract your erroneous conclusions. You should have a checkuser check my account and then apologize for using your position to smear me. I have no socks and never have. Such a shame that you go off half cocked like this. Lightburst (talk) 22:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry Lightburst, I'm really not trying to get at you like that. But I wouldn't have blocked the account if I wasn't completely confident that you operated it in a way that evaded scrutiny. You confirmed the 2019 socks with the screenshot you uploaded. If you're not Wm, how do you explain about every vote matching? That's not the same for other ARS members, or editors who share your point of view. How do you explain the topic overlaps and overlap on several obscure articles? The editor interaction report I cited doesn't lie. The username doesn't lie. I know there are some editors who would be glad to make spurious accusations against you, but I am not one of them.
 * The Wm account is stale-- a CU wouldn't prove or disprove anything. And because the Wm account is stale, I didn't block the Lb account. Everything I said at the SPI was true, so I will not retract any of it. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 23:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "I am not trying to get at you" but let me go back a half a decade and then start a SPI, and then convict you in absentia based on zero evidence and no input from anyone - your evidence is not evidence at all, it is 100% inferences. After you convict me, you now ask me to explain why someone edited articles that I also edited.I did not confirm any socking in that old communication with DoRD or with a screenshot that I cannot even see. All you have done here is create drama and lose an editor. Probably your goal. Nothing you said was true, your suspicions about numbers in usernames and the editing "obscure" article's are not facts they are actually the exact language of the WPO folks. I have no way to prove my innocence and you now say a checkuser cannot even help me clear my name. Your action here and refusal to retract is the last straw for me so I am closing my account and scrambling the password. Congrats on your ham fisted smear job, and good luck with the project. Lightburst (talk) 00:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Permission removed
Per the result of this discussion, I've removed your autopatrolled flag. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New">The Wordsmith Talk to me 19:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Additionally, per community consensus you are restricted to operating one account. This restriction has been logged here. <span style="font-family:Papyrus, Courier New">The Wordsmith Talk to me 20:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)