User talk:Lightburst/Archive 12-23-20

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:50, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

seriously?
When I saw Joost de Valk article, I assumed it was created by some spammer under "get the founder's article first" strategy someone suggested on Twitter. It's blantant. All the sources used are unreliable. I would have AfDed it immediately if I hadn't seen your name in the page history. Do you actually intended to defend the subject as notable? TryKid&thinsp;[dubious – discuss] 05:29, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi . Still working on the article. Been in a long day of editing. I hope to continue tomorrow, but I have a good start. I feel the subject is notable and I am ferreting out articles - I have some magazines. I hope you give it a chance. It was the third article I started, all from the start of seeing the Yoast article. Two Culture Houses and the De Valk article. Lightburst (talk) 05:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Andy Auld (Royal Navy officer)
}} Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * text = On 17 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Andy Auld (Royal Navy officer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the Falklands War, Royal Navy officer Andy Auld helped make operational the Sea Harrier, a short take-off and vertical landing jet fighter? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-07&end=2020-07-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Andy_Auld_(Royal_Navy_officer) Andy Auld (Royal Navy officer)]), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

August 2020
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August 2020
WP:ANI  Dark knight  2149  02:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Joost de Valk for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Joost de Valk is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Intrepid barnstar

 * Related to but not to be conflated with Forged in Fire (TV series). A show I heartily recommend.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 19:48, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Adam Everett Livix


Hello, Lightburst. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Adam Everett Livix".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 08:27, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Christopher Kaelin moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Christopher Kaelin, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. RL0919 (talk) 19:06, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Working
Hi You'll need to remove that sign, its getting in the way.  scope_creep Talk  14:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Take a break
I think you are just Tired, Tired of Toein' the Line via YouTube  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 16:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

By the bye ...
That apology on ANI took a big person to put in. I appreciate it, and enjoy your break. Regards,   Ravenswing     19:40, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. Lightburst (talk) 15:09, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi
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Hi Lightburst, sorry if i gave you a hard time the other day. All the best Zindor (talk) 21:24, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the dove. Sadly that article was deleted. All my best. Lightburst (talk) 15:09, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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You're back!
Welcome back :) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 00:02, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for stopping by! I feel refreshed Lightburst (talk) 00:06, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Your complaint at 3rr is base less
(Deacon Vorbes (talk) 19:10, 24 August 2020 (UTC))

Delsort
Hi. It looks like you're doing deletion sorting manually, so I figured I'd make sure you're aware that there's a script that can help. Someone created a version years ago that listed a few commonly used delsort categories in the sidebar of AfDs for easy clicking. I modified it to include all of them (and organize them). It's been a few years, so it may be out of date, but it's easy to update if necessary. Basically you just click the category from the sidebar and it edits both the AfD and the delsort with that one click (and includes a handy link to the AfD in the edit summary of the delsort). User:Rhododendrites/scripts/delsort-monobook-all.js. It's called monobook but works in Vector, too. I did create a copy of their non-monobook version, too. The main difference is this one displays in a Vector drop-down rather than the sidebar. If it's useful... &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks, for the message user:Rhododendrites it is a bit cumbersome the way I have been sorting. I give it a try! Lightburst (talk) 15:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * There are other options, too. Like User:Enterprisey/delsort. Only following up because I really like the feature whereby I can just click the link to the AfD from the edit summary, and if you look at e.g. the lists delsort history, yours are the only ones that don't include that link. Certainly not mandatory, of course. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 00:26, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Sadly, I am not aware of how to use scripts. I had a look but it looks greek to me. I probably would need to watch a video or have a step by step. Lightburst (talk) 14:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah! It's actually a lot easier than it sounds. You have a page called User:Lightburst/common.js where you can include your own javascript, but better is to explore WP:USL and just "import" whatever you want. To try the script that I adapted from someone else (someone who knows javascript, which I do not), edit your common.js and just past this line in: importScript('User:Rhododendrites/scripts/delsort-monobook-all.js');
 * Then go to an AfD, see if you find it useful, and if not just go back to your common.js and remove it. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:48, 4 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Slick. My only issue is that many categories are not represented in the sidebar. For instance Fashion. So I had to manually enter this one. Lightburst (talk) 16:04, 4 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Doh. I just saw it when I went to the AfD directly. cool beans, a time saver I remember not long ago, North America added "Products" and there is a "Covid 19" sort also. It would be great to have them all in the sorting script. Lightburst (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

so awesome. Actually makes delsorting so simple! Thanks!. I copied the whole code because I found another ommission "women". I imagine there are more so i did not want to keep bothering you. Lightburst (talk) 22:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad you find it useful! And yeah, by all means fork it (it's what I did with FW's script, after all). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 23:02, 4 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yeah Fashion is in there under arts. Just now added Products (near the top) and COVID-19 (under science). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Hamilton McWhorter III
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My respect
FWIW, I may disagree with your opinion on the name of Kenosha protests, but my respect for you is very high. I specially as you have contributed photos. And the fact you are willing to discuss things on a fairly temperate way impresses me. I hope we can work out something that finds a middle ground. But kudos to you. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 01:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. please be safe. Perhaps find articles about locals feelings about the protests, we could use that in the article. That would, IMO, satisfy NPOV criteria. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 01:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. I think articles are better with photos. Probably why Sports Illustrated was so popular- or was it the swimsuit edition? I forgot. I understand the protest moniker. My disagreement with it is fleeting. Although it is an eery feeling to see such destruction in a small Wisconsin town. Lightburst (talk) 01:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Haha! Yeah, good point about Sports Illustrated :-) But it’s awful what is happening. I do feel for the people and businesses of Kenosha. All of you. I hope when this is over healing and reconciliation can begin. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 01:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Do you have any preference for a photo in the protest article? Lightburst (talk) 01:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Do you have the gallery on Commons? - Chris.sherlock (talk) 02:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, these are the ones. Not the Rittenhouse photo but most of the others.Lightburst (talk) 02:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I would love to see photos on the article. As it is such a high profile and controversial subject, my suggestion is to create a gallery page on Commons around the Kenosha protests, then add the template for commons to the bottom of the page, and chose the image you think is highly quality and most fairly represents the material you are illustrating. Then I'd add this in the appropriate spot. Optionally (and perhaps most wisely) I'd start a thread on the talk page advising what you have done, why you feel it is fair, point out that there are other images to choose from and ask for the edit to be reviewed. That allows for maximum transparency, and allows others to collaborate with you. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 02:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Right, I usually just stick one in there. Maybe I will try that. Lightburst (talk) 02:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Feel free to ping me when you do so, I'll add my 2 cents to the talk page. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 02:23, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Good on you

 * GMG beat me to it lol. Well done on the photos Lightburst Zindor (talk) 19:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020
Just a reminder, the press release you copy-pasted at Kenosha protests is a copyright violation. Please don't do this again. –dlthewave ☎ 15:15, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * LB is aware.  G M G  talk  15:21, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for everything. Please be careful, you safety is more important than any photos, historical or not! - Chris.sherlock (talk) 19:57, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Same from me! Amazing. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 19:58, 30 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Understood. I am not looking for trouble at all. I am still researching to find out if there will be any planned protest march today. If you find anything please let me know. Now that so many nat guard troops have arrived, might not be any more. Lightburst (talk) 19:59, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate AFD
Resolved by I believe? GiantSnowman 15:32, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I've not closed anything. Deacon Vorbis closed the second nomination (started at 10:01), which is showing on the delsort list as closed. The first nomination (started at 09:34) remains open. GiantSnowman 16:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I think unresolved. The two entries are for the same item, see them both entered on the delsort list. In the first entry "List of the most successful association football clubs by country–CONCACAF" the nominator forgot to enter (2nd nomination) so it was renominated by the same nominator correctly. So I think you accidentally closed the incorrect one? Lightburst (talk) 15:38, 1 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Makes sense. There is still an issue with the nomination - hot link for view AfD does not work. But we have all spent enough time on it. Thanks for having a look. Lightburst (talk) 16:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC)


 * It's clear that the nominator did not know what they were doing AND that they created the AFD manually, give the typo in the AFD title. I have moved the AFD page to the correct location to match the article name - Articles for deletion/List of the most successful association football clubs by country–CONCACAF. GiantSnowman 16:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hamilton McWhorter III
—valereee (talk) 12:01, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well done! Great article. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

September 2020
Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SocialCred. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 00:08, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Wjemather
Hi

Are you able to help? I notice youve just edited one of the deleted posts by the above username of one of my published articles. Hes abusing his power because I asked him to not delete things on one of the pages im currently editing. Ive put hundreds of hours of work into my pages and because I asked the person one thing hes tagged all of my pages for deletion.

any help would be greatly appriciated.

Creamy Goodne55

DYK for 2020 American athlete strikes
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Lunarsolar
Greetings. I had questions about the close here. While the consensus is clear to draftify, the close was 1) done by the nominator, which is irregular, 2) the formatting on the close still needs some fixing if is to remain closed, and 3) the draftification did not actually occur. So would it be less bad to fix the close and proceed with the draftification, or to undo the bad close and let it run a while longer, seeing as it had been relisted by Sandstein a mere three hours before?  Thanks.  --<b style="color: green;">Finngall</b> <sup style="color: #D4A017;">talk  14:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, I did not close it. The user on top closed it. It likely is a badnac - I merely closed the bottom because all new AfDs appeared closed as a result of the missing bottom template. I also signed it for the closer. Perhaps approach an admin to give a hand? Sandstein is usually around and is very knowledgable. Lightburst (talk) 15:02, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I'll take it upon myself to undo the close myself as a badnac, then. Thanks.


 * I messaged Sandstein on their talk page as well. Lightburst (talk) 15:12, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Your user page
Please remove the links about me from your user page. Per WP:POLEMIC: –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:55, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Matthew Stanford Robison Memorial moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Matthew Stanford Robison Memorial, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. John B123 (talk) 22:45, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Seriously?
An admin called you an a-h??? Do you have the diff? <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">Atsme Talk 📧 01:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * It was Iradescent. And Serial number and Levivich. Pretty uncivil in general. I struck the PA but it was reinstated multiple times. The thread. Lightburst (talk) 01:51, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Sigh?
I am watching the article and I too am fixing your mistakes and explaining each as I go. If you don't want to follow manuals of style and editing guidelines, I don't mind correcting them for you, but do not revert my corrections and act superior or frustrated by it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:07, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * See talk page of article - appropriate area for discussion.

You are not prefect
While I may have a long block history, at least I know my manuals of style and editing guidelines. Don't revert just because I fixed your mistakes, learn from how they were fixed instead. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

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Protection to content creators
Dear Lightburst,

You've become known to me as "someone particularly concerned about protecting content creators" due to your votes in recent RfCs.

I am now in a situation where content creation is being discouraged, which is why I'm writing to you. Let me explain.

There is a content dispute. Party X says there are reliable sources to state something. Party Y says there are not.

Party X is composed of two people that are actively participating in the discussion. Four people have given single paragraph statements supporting this party, but do not care to discuss ad infinitum.

Party Y is composed of one person that is actively participating in the discussion.

The discussion is up since September 20, and no consensus has been achieved yet. The article history is filled with reverts from both parties.

I entered party X to side with, whose contributions were being, in my view, incorrectly reverted. Now I am under risk of having sanctions imposed against me, under the argument of editing prior to achieving consensus. See diff of admin comment on edit warring noticeboard.

May I have your opinion on this? And do you think you could participate in any way in this matter?  Walwal20  talk ▾ contribs 12:21, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. These content disputes are awful and sympathize. It seems you have more experience than the other user you reported at WP:3RR. I recently had such a petty dispute and I left the article alone for a while. In the long view WP will be here long after we are gone, so we have time to circle back. Regarding my own participation I am afraid it would seem like canvassing. These content disputes are easier to judge when 100 people participate, and hard when it is just 3-5 people with differing opinions. You may have to wait for more participation on the discussion. Lightburst (talk) 14:01, 17 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the insights. I think the long view perspective is neat. Maybe responding to things as soon as they happen is not the best strategy. I'll give it some thought. Gratefully,  Walwal20  talk ▾ contribs 14:26, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020
Hello. Please do not ignore Wikipedia policies and other editors. When someone clearly says that something needs a source, do not stubbornly add it back without providing any source. This is not an acceptable way of working on Wikipedia. You have to be able to provide reliable sources for your edits, especially in WP:BLP articles, and especially when someone asks you to do it. Thank you.—J. M. (talk) 15:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Gun serial number
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Come back soon?
I really miss you mate and it’s safe to say the collaborative project as a whole does too. Please do return soon. Celestina007 (talk) 22:51, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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