User talk:Lightsaber Guy

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Hello, Lightsaber Guy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Ruby Quest, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Ruby Quest


A tag has been placed on Ruby Quest requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  01:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

You have no idea what to do?
On an encyclopedia with 3mil articles? Inconceivable. That's like saying that 4chaners are uncreative, dull, and their discussions are mostly walls of text about new chemical elements. ;-) Seriously though, welcome to Wikipedia. I hope you don't mind the Ruby Quest thing...Wikipedia requires all articles to be verified with multiple reliable, third-party sources and RQ didn't even come close to that. If you ever would like something to do, I have 20k article backlogs that would love some attention. Or you could go back to 4chan. Your choice. I ramble. Welcome again!  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  02:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Reply to Nolelover
Wow, thanks for being so considerate! :D And it is quite alright about the page; there are rules, I should know. By the way, I am not actually new here. I've been here for a while, but never for too long a time because I could never really get the hang of it here. (After a while, I actually started contributing to the minor/ other wikis like Villains Wiki and TvTropes where the contributing and editing are not as precise as here on the main Wiki) Although, I was able to successfully create the Carver (film) page.

Also, I'm not really all that into 4chan, but I did enjoy Ruby Quest and I thought that it, and the impact it had on the /tg/ community was worth noting on its own page. (or at least, the page probably needed some more work and better references)

...Anyway, thanks again for your support! Lightsaber Guy (talk) 02:30, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I had seen that your contribs go back to 2010, but I saw that you hadn't been "officially" welcomed yet so I figured ehh, why not. It's the least I can do after tagging your work for deletion. Yeah..it takes a lot of work to really get involved here. Learning the basics has been harder here then in any other community I've been a part of. Also, if you do find some source for Ruby Quest, you can always bring that up at the Talk:4chan page, and see if they think it should be included in that article. If you do stick around, don't be a stranger - my talk page is right here, and if you don't, you a smarter (or is it stronger?) man then I. ;-)  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  16:22, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks again! I'm mostly busy with school and everything else, but I'll try and look into it when I can. ;) Lightsaber Guy (talk) 21:29, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

William Murdoch
In your explanation of your addition to the William Murdoch (poet) article you wrote "hope this is helpful". Well, yes and no. Yes because it adds interest and currency and no because it is un-sourced. You should add live references to the on-line discussions you mention. Otherwise it is meaningless. Thanks! Verne Equinox (talk) 01:30, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, well, thank you for that. I'm not too good at distinguishing "sources" and "references". It's just a bit hard finding ANYTHING of use on the internet anymore, haha. Welcome! Lightsaber Guy (talk) 01:51, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is what is unsourced/unreferenced: "The work gained its notoriety on the internet after it was posted to a discussion thread of an RPG adventure game hosted on 4chan's /tg/ board," You are halfway there by mentioning the thread; now you need to provide the url's for the discussion and the later admission. That's all. Verne Equinox (talk) 03:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I did find this archive (warning: offensive language), but a) that's hardly a reliable source and b) you aren't gonna get much better since 4chan doesn't keep its own archives...everything 404's within hours.  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  03:09, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. I though you were referring ONLY to the edit in which I added the link to "poems and songs" 'cause that's where I said it. :P Also, I didn't really know if the archive could be considered 'accountable' by wiki standards (just as NL said), so I added a link to a livejournal instead (which seemed more-or-less viable). Lightsaber Guy (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2012 (UTC) (Also, NL, I believe you are confusing /tg/ with /b/. /tg/'s stuff stays around for a bit, as its usually continuous instead of spontaneous.) Lightsaber Guy (talk) 20:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * -- I knew that...still, like you said, the threads (and maybe livejournal) are probably not gonna be considered reliable sources at all. Perhaps instead of looking for sources among threads and blogs and such, you check the other side and see if any bios or articles about Murdoch mention the poem? That's all I can think of...  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  13:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)