User talk:LilyErinP23

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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! I tried updating my username change request below, but I'm not sure if it went through. After I updated it per 331dot's request, I became unable to reply to comments in that thread. My apologies -- this is all so new to me that I'm not really sure what to do next. Are you able to assist? LEP Wiki Services (talk) 21:10, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The reply tool doesn't seem to like the unblock template. You can use the source editor to post your reply. Just make sure to sign your reply using 4 tildes like this: and also indent your reply using an incrementing amount of colons starting from 1. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * A username like LEP23 (or maybe incorporating "LEP" into a unique username such as... LEPrachaun23... ya I'm not original) would be better since people who know the original username won't know its an abbreviation of an older, promotional username. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:36, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Blaze Wolf! I had tried to suggest (below) LilyErinP23 to comply with the idea that the username should represent me as an individual, but LEP23 is fine by me too -- I just want to make my account compliant as quickly as possible. After learning about all the rules regarding paid editing, I can confirm that I will not be pursuing paid Wiki writing! xD
 * I'm trying again here:
 * . LEP Wiki Services (talk) 21:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Assuming "LilyErinP" is your real name, are you sure you want to use that as your username given the potential consequences of doing so (see WP:REALNAME). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:49, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's been modified to protect my real identity! :) LEP Wiki Services (talk) 21:51, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * So you want to use that username? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:54, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I would personally prefer LEP23, but if that is not sufficiently different from my current username, then I am fine with LilyErin23 (without the "P"). LEP Wiki Services (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * What do you think of these new choices? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Disregard the ping Bbb23, I mistook you for 331dot Meant to ping you. ― Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 23:39, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all your help, Blaze Wolf and 331dot! LilyErinP23 (talk) 12:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem! Let me know if there's anything else you need help with. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 12:09, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Just taking a look at that draft article if you're still up for it. I'd love a pro's opinion before I try formally submitting it again. LilyErinP23 (talk) 12:56, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor) right? ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 13:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Correct! LilyErinP23 (talk) 13:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking at the article, the big issue I see with it is that most of the sources cover things he is known for but not him specifically. Either that or the sources are things like IMDb (which is considered unreliable) or the about pages for websites. I'd recommend checking out this guide for writing better articles, as well as the general notability guidelines which describe what we look for regarding sourcing. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 13:28, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed all except one or two IMDb links and replaced them with more objective news sources. I also reviewed the notability and IMDb guidelines. Perhaps you're not seeing the most recent draft? I'll try updating it again! LilyErinP23 (talk) 13:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've taken a look and while you have replaced some of the sources for IMDb, a lot of them are still there. I suggest using the custom search engine for finding reliable sources specifically to find some better sources. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 13:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, Blaze. There are no IMDb sources left on the draft on my end. I'm not sure why you're not seeing the most recent version. I'm very sorry about that -- again, this is all very new to me! I've tried publishing the changes again. I'll keep chipping away at it, and I hope you enjoy your holiday! LilyErinP23 (talk) 13:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Sources 7, 14, and 25 are all still IMDb. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 13:47, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed! So sorry I missed those. LilyErinP23 (talk) 13:57, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * As I have stated on my userpage, I'm going to be out of town starting today. If you have any other questions, ask them on my talk page and one of my many talk page watchers will respond. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 13:33, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it -- thank you, and I hope you enjoy your time away! LilyErinP23 (talk) 13:35, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, is there a way to get an experienced user (such as yourself) to review a draft article to provide feedback before I formally submit it for review? I've trimmed a draft article (to omit content that couldn't be supported with evidence that meets Wikipedia's standards) and added many new references that should be more robust than what I had previously, but it would still be great to an expert set of eyes to give their thoughts before I risk having it rejected and deleted! :) LEP Wiki Services (talk) 23:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm an AFC reviewer myself actually so I'm able to review drafts so I could take a look at yours. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 23:24, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That would be amazing! Am I able to share it with you/are you able to see it while I'm still blocked, or do I need to wait until I've been unblocked? LEP Wiki Services (talk) 23:32, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
Hello LEP Wiki Services. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:LEP Wiki Services. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi there. I am not currently receiving any form of compensation for my edits/work on Wikipedia. I am testing out the Wikipedia editing and creation processes to determine whether I would someday like to offer services related to writing Wikipedia articles, but that is not yet something I do. In light of this, how should I proceed? Should I mark myself as a paid contributor now (although I am not) or wait until I am actually a paid editor?
 * Also, I had been planning to practice on editing the profiles of people I know and subjects I am familiar with. In this case, how do I disclose a general (not paid) COI?
 * Also, can you please clarify why IMDB is not a satisfactory means of proving that someone was in or involved with a particular production? IMDB and the production companies registered through it check to ensure that casting credits are accurate, and I have seen many other actor pages on Wikipedia that cite IMDB to demonstrate filmography/credit contents -- some even rely on the actors' personal websites. Your guidance is appreciated. LEP Wiki Services (talk) 17:31, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think you would agree that "Wiki Services" is a username which so self-evidently implies you're a 'pen for hire', that you will always face this question. Therefore, if your plan is to offer paid editing services, even if you're not right at this moment being paid yet, then I would just declare paid-editing and get it over and done with. (You will then have to update your disclosure for each individual client separately, but at least the base disclosure is there.)
 * I will post a separate message below with instructions on handling general COI, where payment or other financial benefit is not involved.
 * As for IMDb, the main problem with it is that it is user-generated, see WP:IMDB. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. This is helpful. I will just go ahead and declare that I am a paid editor now. To be honest, I didn't realize that paid Wiki editing was problematic provided it was objective and properly cited, as I see so many folks offering Wikipedia-related services these days. I really appreciate all the guidance you're giving!
 * Is there a way to have the pages I post reviewed by another editor/contributor (i.e., one without any payment or other COI stake in the content I'm working on)? Like, is this something that I can request to help ensure that the content I am working on is as reliable and transparent as possible?
 * Regarding IMDB, are there other sites that you recommend as more reliable alternatives? LEP Wiki Services (talk) 17:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Paid editing without disclosure is a direct violation to the website's Terms of Use which you automatically agree to by using this website. The relevant part of the TOU states "These Terms of Use prohibit engaging in deceptive activities, including misrepresentation of affiliation, impersonation, and fraud. As part of these obligations, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." Also, there is an active scam involving Articles for Creation (see WP:SCAM), and often the scammers will have usernames like yours to make them seem more credible. People would be more likely to fall for a scam like this if it's from, say "Bob's Wiki Creator" rather than one from "John's Volunteer Network" (these are simply just examples I created just now, I don't believe either are real but no connection was intended if they are). ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:39, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * As for the IMDb source, I'd suggest reading this page which explains what to look for in a reliable source and how to find one. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I really appreciate all of these helpful comments and suggestions. It's great to see community members and volunteers looking out for one another! LEP Wiki Services (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem! If you'd like to continue editing the draft and Wikipedia, I'd suggest you request your username be changed by following the directions UtherSRG left in the message at the bottom of this page. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:44, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I have already submitted a username change request and shall await further updates. :) LEP Wiki Services (talk) 18:45, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. If you're unblocked and you need any help with other things feel free to ask me on my talk page or the folks at the Teahouse. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:53, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you again! I will be sure to do that. :) LEP Wiki Services (talk) 18:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Again, no problem! I'm always happy to help new users figure out the complexity of Wikipedia and its various guidelines and policies. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 18:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stephen Chambers (actor) (April 19)
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:15, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor) has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor). Thanks! DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:16, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
<div class="notice user-block uw-softerblock" style="background:#def; border:1px solid #468; padding:0.5em; margin:0.5em auto; min-height:50px">Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames which give the impression that the account represents a group, club, organization, company, or website, I have blocked this account from editing. You are welcome to continue editing after you have chosen a new username that complies with Wikipedia's username policy.

You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable, regardless of the username that you choose. Additionally, if your contributions to Wikipedia form all or part of work for which you are, or expect to be, paid or compensated in any way, you must disclose who is paying you to edit here. Please take a moment to either create a new account, or request a username change of your current account here. The new username that you choose must represent you as an individual person, and it must comply with Wikipedia's username policy.
 * To create a new account with a different username, simply log out of this account and then click here to make a new one.
 * If you prefer to change the username on this account, you may do so by adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page here:.

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Appeals: If your username does not represent a group, organization, website, or other entity described above, and if you believe that this block was incorrect or made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page here:.

Thank you. UtherSRG (talk) 18:29, 19 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Apologies, but can you please clarify where I am supposed to paste the following text?.
 * My username is not a formal company, but I agree that it would be best to change it (based on all the feedback provided by other community members). I have submitted a username change request, but I am still new to this "talk page" system.
 * Your guidance is appreciated! LEP Wiki Services (talk) 18:59, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * As it says the bottom of your talk page. So, right here is fine. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:06, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Thank you. I hope I did it right this time!

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stephen Chambers (actor) (April 20)
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Blaze Wolf was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 13:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Blaze, the links to Apple and other sources are supplementary; the bulk of the content is supported via articles published in reputable magazines and online publications, as well as other content verified by third parties. These sources were just provided to demonstrate that this person has acted in those particular movies/TV episodes. I will remove them now.
 * I spent a lot of time reviewing the policies surrounding citations and references for actors last night, and I also spent much time reviewing the profiles of other actors and screenwriters. This post does not seem to violate any specific policy and seems to be aligned with the pages for other professionals in the same industry. This person also seems to meet the notability requirement, as they have had an enduring career and been featured consistently in local, national, and international publications. They have also received numerous public, published awards for their work.
 * I'm a bit confused about how to move forward. LilyErinP23 (talk) 13:51, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay! I think I've got it down to the sources and information that meet the specific notability criteria, and I have removed the primary sources. LilyErinP23 (talk) 14:11, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor) has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor). Thanks! ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 12:55, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stephen Chambers (actor) (August 16)
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by SportingFlyer were:

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SportingFlyer  T · C  11:44, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor)
Hello, LilyErinP23. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Stephen Chambers (actor), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 12:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)