User talk:Lily rugo

Welcome to Wikipedia, and help on your draft for Kollaboration!
Hi Lily, Welcome to Wikipedia, if you are a new editor! I saw your draft of Kollaboration linked to the page for Jun Sung Ahn. It is a great start and a very worthy subject!

If you like, you may ask me any questions you have about anything. I have added some preliminary references at the bottom of your draft that you may read and use information from. KoreAm, in particular, is a great magazine, and has multiple articles on Kollaboration. As many of the performers are listed in the articles, you may use them for background information, and as a second reference for the performers named. Just use the reference format I provided for KoreAm and create new ones for the other articles you may use from that magazine.

I was a little doubtful about Hyphen - I didn't go through all the magazine issues, and much of the Kollaboration info. was in the blog section, not acceptable on WP, so maybe you shouldn't use it, other than for your research.

It is best to use the main source (the website for Kollaboration) as little as possible, as it is a primary source. Also, don't attach your references to headings. Some of your text needs working over, as it sounds promotional, which is not accepted on WP. I know you are just getting started, and it is a big project, with so many years!

Please let me know how I can help. I am a participant on WikiProject Korea - User:Bonnielou2013 with a focus on articles related to the U.S., when possible - and when I am not figuring out the K-pop charting! hahaha!

You may respond here on your talk page, or on mine User talk:Bonnielou2013. I can help you with the infobox for the page, and go over anything you like, before submission. Hi again! And welcome!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 05:36, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Draft to page creation!
Hi Lily, I checked to see if you've made any headway with the page. Kollaboration just did a great showcase at SXSW, so that will make a nice addition! Some of the expected Seoulsonic artists performed there, and everyone thinks the combination was great! It's an exciting time!

Please talk to me if you need help with anything. I have provided some references previously that you may use and can help with more and the bare essentials of uploading your page. Welcome!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 18:00, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Kollaboration concern
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Kollaboration, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:35, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi again Lily rugo....I saw the notice above about the pending page creation. I think the article is a good one and has sufficient good references to make it acceptable for WP. Again, I think you have done a lot of good work and would hate to see your work lost.  Please let me know if I can be of any assistance to you. I can quickly prepare the Ref List of citations that you may extract page information from to continue work on your draft, or launch your page.
 * And Hello bot owner Hasteur, I'm not sure user Lily rugo gets an email notification of messages, as they do not have a User page? Anyway, I'm asking that you give them some time to receive your notice.  I think the draft of Kollaboration is important and was hoping Lily rugo would have responded to me about it by now, as well, as I have offered to assist them with the page, particularly if they are a new WP editor.  Question for you, is it acceptable for me to put some work on the Draft of Kollaboration in order to maintain its status as a draft?  Then a follow-up question for the future, if the Draft is completed, without any further input from the original Draft creator, is it acceptable to launch the page under my User name, should they not return for further edits or to launch the completed page? I'm hoping we hear from Lily rugo and the second question is moot.  Thank you.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 04:21, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The bot (and I) don't care either way who makes some changes. This was a reminder that the page hasn't been edited in at least 5 months, and could be eligible for G13 shortly.  The bot will consider the page again 30 days from when the "notice" was dropped to see if it's eligible for CSD:G13 (AFC submissions unedited for at least 6 months) and if so will procedurally nominate the page.  The bot makes no judgement on any other CSD effort.  If you make even a single byte change (or choose to apply the AfC postpone G13 template) it'll reset the clock on the G13 consideration.  I've postponed the G13 consideration on your behalf, but this is the only time I will do this for the page.  Don't make my efforts be futile. Hasteur (talk) 12:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you Hasteur for your prompt response. I will make some edits on the draft soon and look into the other issue separately, pending any response from Draft creator Lily rugo. I have never used the Draft template for page creation and it's a learning process for me. Again thanks!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 12:59, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Kollaboration draft moving forward
Hi Lily, I'm glad we got in touch. If you read the notes above I think you will see that if you just update the Kollaboration draft it will be safe. I have never used "Draft" for creating a page (I work in my Sandbox and save it to my personal drive and create the page when completed) and didn't know it was subject to being deleted when inactive for a while....now we both know. For now it has been re-set for another 5 months or so. If you work on it now and then, the problem of deletion should not come up until you get your page ready for submission. Save the draft to your drive, just to be safe. And if you find you don't have time to work on it this year or for many months...you have your preliminary work to start again...presumably after your Draft is deleted.

Again, I have added some references (on the Draft) you may use to attach to your page following quotes or information you have, or select from those sources. All page information must be extracted from a source Identifying reliable sources, which is documented as a "Reference" immediately following. It is OK to list multiple references when you add a sentence that combines information from two or more sources. Please ask if you have any questions. I added those references in Dec 2016 and if you do a search now, you will find many more, especially for the SXSW event. Here are some other helpful pages Your first article and WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources. There are many others to read and Guidelines....but if you have little time to work on this WP project, reading all the guidelines can be overwhelming....so, if you like, do your best and ask me questions and I will overlook your progress and final draft, troubleshooting any problems I see to make it a good page that is accepted by WP. I have received much assistance from helpful editors and the pragmatic learning has worked for me. It is OK to make mistakes while editing Wikipedia and one advise I have seen is "be bold in your edits".....mistakes are usually corrected in a friendly manner by other editors. Of course that is for general edits, this is a new page you are planning to upload, so we want to be as precise as possible to make sure it is accepted.

When creating a new page, I usually look at similar subject pages for guides about what to do. Remember that example pages you select may have mistakes which haven't been corrected....so just use them as a guideline. I will help search for an appropriate Infobox template. Since most of your information refers to a talent show or recurring music event, it might be best to file it under a category such as KCON (music festival). But let me keep looking, while you make some updates.

BTW - your subject and its age makes it a more difficult page to attempt for the first time....but you have a good start already! good luck!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 13:34, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Updates in August 2017
Hi (talk) thanks so much for your help with my page! I began it and then got distracted, plus a little overwhelmed by all the rules and guidelines from WP. I went back today and updated the page with the links and references you provided, plus others I found on my own. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated, as I'm not sure how much time I'll have to work on it. I'd like to have it published by the end of the year though, if possible. Thanks!

(Lily Rugo - the above entry needs your Signature)--Bonnielou2013--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 03:46, 22 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi again Lily, I have added Infobox, image, some categories and sent you more information on References and Rewrite via your email. Happy editing!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 03:40, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Kollaboration


Hello, Lily rugo. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Kollaboration".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Lapablo (talk) 12:20, 15 May 2019 (UTC)