User talk:Lion12344321

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فارسی LukeEmily (talk) 16:13, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for telling ! I didn’t know I had to source it Thanks again sir ! Lion12344321 (talk) 16:23, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

FYI
LukeEmily (talk) 16:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

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Properly sourcing material
Your last attempt at a reference cited page one; following that link just yields the cover of a book. That's not sufficient to support the content you are attempting to add. Please see our verifiability policy. OhNo itsJamie Talk 17:29, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Actually the citation was from page 17 of that pdf, would generate link of that page and then add it.
 * Sorry again for the inconveniences from my side, I am just a beginner,would try better next time for sure:)😊 Lion12344321 (talk) 17:33, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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Okay, thanks for telling Lion12344321 (talk) 18:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, note that we discourage against using many Raj Era caste sources. OhNo itsJamie Talk 18:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Would take that in note :) Lion12344321 (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Kindly read page 17 of the pdf,it’s link is unable to generate, so it will open on page 1 I hope you understand Regards Lion12344321 (talk) 21:00, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Arora related
Greetings, Kindly do not encourage in edit warring i.e. making an edit that has been reverted more than once (three is the maximum, as the wikipedia policy). If you feel the change is necessary, you have the right to discuss on the Talk page of the concerned page (here Arora). If anyone engages in editwarring, it will regarded as non-constructive and perhaps attract negative feedback.

In regard to your last change, you may consider creating a sub-caste page of Gauba/Gabba and include KL Gauba among others in the list and/or try to edit other sections of the Arora (page).

There is also lack of knowledge about the Aroras during Mauryan reign over western Punjab. Moreover, the books available online could be biased partially so, you may wish to upload books online that favour your case. More the books, more the sourced and verifiable content.

All the best wishes and regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirmohiji (talk • contribs) 05:07, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Understood sir, Thanks ! Lion12344321 (talk) 05:25, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Also, sir, is this the talk page where I can discuss or is it any other talk page ? Lion12344321 (talk) 05:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

I have proofs about the origins of aroras from the following books-1. Ethnographic survey of Balochistan 2.short history of ARORBANS panchayat 3.Bharatendu samagra by Bharatendu Harishchandra

Which would be the best to cite as a source sir? Lion12344321 (talk) 05:45, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. Kindly the share sources here or on the talk page of Arora - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Arora

I have read the second source you have mentioned. It is by all means a proceeding of the Aror Vansh Meeting (maha punchayat). Firstly, you may wish to include somehow that that Arora and Aror Vanshi are the same. GUJRAL (Founder of Hero corps) proudly acclaims to be an "Arorvanshi". The wikipedia does not register that. My point is, the Arora page should first recognize that Aror Vansh Sabha actually represented the Arora community. The Aror Vansh Sabha also worked during the freedom fight as Press. Also, aror vansh sabha voiced strong support against early marriages of girls. These sources should be include in the page with sources. Fighting for the Kshatriya claim comes later, as it is highly disputed in the literature online.

Secondly, the Sabhas or commitees such as Arora-Khatri Mahasabha recognized and founded by the government of Punjab should be included.

Do not restrict to the caste status. Instead try to add constructively any useful info on the community with verifiable sources.

Regards Nirmohiji (talk) 06:03, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Munjal not Gujral, I beg your pardon. Nirmohiji (talk) 06:04, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your kind advice sir !! Would try my best to work on that.

Regards…… Lion12344321 (talk) 06:19, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Finally, if could find sources to show that Aroras were indeed employed at administrative and military positions during the Mughal rule and Sikh Rule in Punjab. For instance, Baba Santa Singh Arora was the head of Khalsa during 1984 riots in Punjab. As you can see, many aroras such as Vikram Batra, Ajay Ahuja, Madan Lal Dhingra and Arun Khetarpal are not included on the page because of "lack of sources". However, communication is ever increasing in this age and awareness about general issues is rising. I wish you both luck and patience.

The Arors community, in general, was "displaced" so to speak. The known belt of areas where the community is now concentrated include Delhi and parts of Haryana.

Recently, the media reported that at least 17 MLAs were elected from this community in State Eletions in Punjab. Consequently, one MP was sent to Rajya Sabha from the Arora community from Ludhiana Punjab.

You may try to include news related to Aroras. There is going to be a focus on this caste group in the forthcoming Haryana state elections.

However, there is also a tendency to avoid caste politics and unite as a religion group (of all castes). Indeed, we must all try to unite - Brahman, Rajput, Arora-Khatri, Kayasth, Jaat etc instead of fighting each other, we must put the nation first and also the spirit of Sanatan first i.e. protection of vedas, cows and girls should be our first priority. Casteism should be avoided, especially criticising other caste groups will only encourage fights and lack of unity will eventually hurt us all. So please try to find and spread "Unity in Diversity" Many Thanks, Nirmohiji (talk) 06:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Absolutely sir ! I would try to include as much information as possible(news etc) and would post some constructive information about Aroras and not caste or status related.

You have very rightly stated that we should put Sanatan first, and division will only cause problems and weaken our society. It was my ignorance that I didn’t even think about this, and that my earlier post could spoil the unity in our society.

From now on,sir, I would post nothing about casteism, about anything which could spoil general unity, and would only research and post about the community and what it has contributed to the world.

Thanks a lot sir !

My sincere regards !! Lion12344321 (talk) 06:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Sir, I have attached some links to show that Aroras and Arorbansi/Arorvashi is the same
 * Please find them written below:-
 * "To beautify Abohar town, which had been ranked the third dirtiest city in the country in a survey conducted last year, the Arorvansh Sabha has agreed to shift the life-size statue of Arut Ji Maharaj, founder of Arora community, to fountain chowk "
 * link-https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/young-archer-hits-bulls-eye-300704
 * 2."Senior leaders of the Arora (Arorvansh) community on Sunday strongly condemned the attack on legislator Arun Narang who had gone to Malout,"
 * Link-https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/act-against-guilty-arora-community-231803
 * 3.Arorbans panchayat page no. 5, first paragraph-"our community brethren are generally designated by the term Aroras............."
 * Link-https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Short_Ethnographical_History_of_Aror_Ban/suJAAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=arorbans&pg=PA2&printsec=frontcover
 * 4."Such groups as the Khatri and arorbans conference would presumably include khatris and aroras of diverse religions....."
 * Link-https://archive.org/details/transformationof0000mare/page/160/mode/2up?q=arorbans&view=theater
 * 5.https://archive.org/details/dli.ministry.27722/page/n1/mode/2up?q=%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8B%E0%A5%9C%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%B6&view=theater
 * This is a 'Hindi document' about arorvansh written in 1912.
 * On page 2 and page 3, it has some information which could help prove that Aroras and Arorvanshi is same.
 * Many Sincere Regards.... Lion12344321 (talk) 07:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

In the 4th point link, kindly visit page 161 of the archive pdf sir Lion12344321 (talk) 07:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Lion12344321 Nirmohiji (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Most welcome sir !! Lion12344321 (talk) 09:12, 30 August 2022 (UTC)