User talk:Liozac0261

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Speedy deletion nomination of Charleston Dry Dock & Machine Company


A tag has been placed on Charleston Dry Dock & Machine Company requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Zachary Liollio


A tag has been placed on Zachary Liollio, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.
 * It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Cabayi (talk) 09:44, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

January 2020
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article about yourself, at Zachary Liollio. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Cabayi (talk) 09:45, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Looking at your other contributions, MS Carolinian & Charleston Dry Dock & Machine Company I can see that you're trying to document some interesting corners of history. However, from Wikipedia's perspective, there are some issues which need to be fixed/improved. The combined effect is that you're putting up all the signs of having a conflict of interest whether that's the true state of affairs or not. So... Hello, Liozac0261. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
 * The images you've uploaded to Commons, c:File:Carolinian II.jpg and c:File:Carolinian 1.jpg are marked as "Source: Own work" which, unless you're over 110 years old is unlikely in the extreme. Please credit the actual source. It's likely the images are in the public domain and should be marked as having a  licence, not that you have released them as   which isn't in your gift. Wikipedia shares its material without restriction on reuse and, in order to do that, needs to be totally honest about the sourcing of its images and the originality of its text.
 * You're injecting yourself into the articles, "Z.P. Liollio Collection". Why?
 * "Today, the former shipyard facility is occupied by..." - when? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. What you write today needs to be valid in 10 or 20 years time. Text like "Since 1970..." or "As of 2020..." is far more durable.
 * You've watermarked a company name into c:File:Charleston Dry Dock and Machine Co, 1946 Overlay.jpg as well as your initials. The company doesn't appear to exist, https://opencorporates.com/companies?q=Z.P.+Liollio which means it's going to be impossible for the company to release the image for Wikipedia.


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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cabayi (talk) 10:58, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Good morning! I appreciate your feedback and vigilance. I’ve made the images public domain and added more concise dates to the section you mentioned. I’ve also removed any injections that I may have made (I think I got them all).

As for the watermark, that company does exist. The only digital copy of that image is one that I purchased and then overlayed for a project (the client is a local history nonprofit). I felt that image is the best in terms of illustrating key features, including some items mentioned in the article.

https://businessfilings.sc.gov/BusinessFiling/Entity/Profile/4c96319a-d6a6-42d4-ac28-849f980180da

What steps should I take to release it to Wikipedia? Liozac0261 (talk) 17:07, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Zach, I'm sorry for the delay in replying. I tried to answer your question, but all I have is more questions for you to consider.The original source image:


 * Was it in copyright or Public Domain?
 * It's an aerial shot, not a casual snapshot by a holidaymaker. That makes it more likely it was commissioned and owned by a business who would be less likely to have let any copyright lapse. On the other hand it may have been the work of a state or federal official and to have been in the public domain from the outset.


 * What did you buy?
 * Did you buy a print or a digital image. Did you just buy a copy of the image or (less likely) did you also buy the copyright of the image? The image's physical representation on a printed photo and its copyright are two separate things.
 * Did you buy it for yourself, your company, or for your client, in which case their permission would need to be given.


 * For the overlaid image:


 * Who owns the copyright, you or your client? It's unusual (or very careless on their part) if they've left you with copyright to their materials. Do they need your permission to make any further use of the image, or do you need theirs?
 * What level of instruction did they give you? It's possible that, in the absence of anything specifically saying otherwise, the level of direction they gave you means that they had the creative direction and hence the copyright.
 * Did you add all the ZP Liollio/ZPL stuff to it? Why? It restricts what Wikipedia can (or would want to) do with it. Any watermark or other mark asserting or implying ownership will put it outside what Commons will accept.English Wikipedia might accept it if you have the right to donate it. You'll have to check Copyright assistance and Donating copyrighted materials.
 * The additions you've made to the photo stretch the edges of original research which would break the second of Wikipedia's WP:Five pillars.
 * The mashup File:Lululaund 1900 vs British Legion Hall 2009.jpg, and the credits it gives to the original images, may be a useful guide once you've worked your way through the issues you need to resolve.
 * I can't access any sc.gov website. I can if I use a VPN, but I don't have one on this kit. Sorry I can't resolve that point for you.
 * Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 14:29, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I see what you mean, and that does seem like dicey territory... I’ll leave the aerial image alone.

Thank you again for your help! If you spot anything else, you know where to find me. I hope you have a Happy New Year.

-Zach Liozac0261 (talk) 22:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I've had a go at categorising the images of Carolinian. For c:File:Carolinian 1.jpg, the one in the shipyard, there are about 5 other "Charleston..." categories which may apply, but I have no idea which. If you install the HotCat gadget (it's available under the Gadgets tab in your preferences both here and on Commons) and use it to add a category to the image starting Charlesto... it'll prompt you with the available categories (naval dockyard, historic, county, etc). Happy editing and a happy new year, Cabayi (talk) 07:19, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

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