User talk:Liquidpaperme

Every point detailed is a fact. Mr Cadby was a Labor Party campaign manager. Mr Cadby was a teacher. Mr Cadby supported legislation that gerrymanders some seats in WA. Mr Cadby's family are earning money from the Party he dumped on. Mr Cadby's friend did get him elected.

Before you edit other people's work I suggest you take the time to look into the facts presented. If you have issue with the facts then that is your problem and you need to deal with it. The truth is the truth is the truth and presenting a distortion of the facts is wrong.

Please read Biographies of living persons, then provide references for the contentious edits that you wish to make. Then don't remove the categories and rund your edits through a spell checker. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:15, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You show me a reference where Mr Cadby expressed a view on one vote one value before being dumped by the Liberal Party either in Hansard or the media. You ring Liberal MPs Mr Rob Johnson's office and find out who works there (Mr Cadby's wife/daughter). You look through the one vote one value legislation and find the dummy voters in the north of WA that create another rural gerrymander. You take the time to check the facts before you go editing other peoples work. Oh and you may want to contact all those people who have been editing John Howard's page as well.

Oh. And prove to me one fact isn't a fact and I will leave well enought alone.


 * I live in Canada so I'm not making calls to Australia. Also you are the one that wants to add material that violates Biographies of living persons so you need to add the references, not me. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You are not adding facts but claims. Read Attribution (especially Attribution). From that page "Any edit lacking attribution may be removed, and the final burden of evidence lies with the editor wishing to add or retain the material. However, this policy should not be used to cause disruption by removing material for which reliable sources could easily or reasonably be found — except in the case of contentious material about living persons, which must be removed immediately." So it's up to you to provide the sources. Some more helpful reading Attribution/FAQ. Another couple of quotes "The burden of evidence for any edit on Wikipedia, but especially for edits about living persons, rests firmly on the shoulders of the person who adds or restores the material." and "Administrators may enforce the removal of such material with page protection and blocks, even if they have been editing the article themselves. Editors who re-insert the material may be warned and blocked." Both from Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. So consider this a final warning. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Using your IP to make the edits is not a good idea. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked for disruption of Wikipedia, because you added material that could be regarded as defamatory. See Blocking policy: Biographies of living people. You may return when the block expires. Any further attempt to restore the material will incur another block. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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There is no record in Hansard (www.parliament.wa.gov.au) or the media of Mr Cadby speaking on the one-vote-one-value legislation before he lost preselection. The legislation that Mr Cadby supported created what is known as dummy voters in the far north of WA. These dummy voters have the effect of creating a gerrymander in regional WA. There are numerous references to these dummy voters creating a rural gerrymander in Hansard and the Western Australian media.

The Labor government's own media statement of 30th March 2005 also states that the north of WA will be exempt from provisions in the one vote one value legislation ie the legislation Mr Vadby supported kept a rural gerrymander in some parts of WA: 'Mr McGinty said that the legislation would protect the five existing seats in the Mining and Pastoral Region...' [ie in these areas the rural gerrymander will remain]

The facts can be verified at www.parliament.wa.gov.au and search using 'one vote one value AND cadby' and then 'one vote one value AND dummy'.

Also, there are numerous references in Hansard to the Liberal Party policy of allowing its MPs to cross the floor. This means the statement 'Cadby had been bound to oppose the legislation as a member of the Liberal Party' to be a false and flawed statement. It is only ALP members who must abide by caucaus decisions.

Other references highlighting Liberal MPs have the right to cross the floor and vote against their Party: http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200610/s1755780.htm http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2006/s1711010.htm http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/downer-backs-mps-right-to-cross-the-floor/2005/08/15/1123957991790.html

There are also numerous State Liberal MPs who have exercised their right to cross the floor including Ross Lightfoot (over milk deregulation and Sue Walker (over the closing of a palliative care centre in her electorate). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.178.113.186 (talk • contribs).

Biographies of living persons
Read it and then provide sources for the edits that violate it or you will be blocked again. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)