User talk:Lisa.davis

Dear Visitor,

I prefer messages on an article's talk page. I do not respond here.

Peace, Lisa.davis (talk) 18:53, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Unblock request

 * Is there any light a checkuser can shed on the explanation above? ~Anachronist (talk) 05:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Lisa.davis and Ms Sarah Welch are ❌/. Inconclusive is because two of Lisa's IPs are owned by a public institution and the third is a corporate IP. However, Lisa's and Sarah's physical locations are different, and Sarah has "always" (for the period data has been available) used the same consumer ISP.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:50, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * as the blocking admin, given the information above, do you object to unblocking? ~Anachronist (talk) 03:39, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Am v. real-world busy today. I will need to look at this carefully. Will revert asap - hopefully tomorrow. Ben   Mac  Dui  17:14, 8 May 2018 (UTC)


 * 1) As far as I am aware the relationship between this account and AmyNorth is not relevant to the issues at hand.
 * 2) It is not clear to me why it would be thought necessary to disclose the relationship between this account and Mark.muesse. What is that relationship? Were you using the same computer? Collaborating off-wiki in ways that might transgress policy?
 * 3) You say “The circumstantial evidence presented against me is vacuous”. It may be that incorrect conclusions have been drawn from that evidence but I’d say it was difficult to ignore.
 * 4) There may well be some differences in approach between the MSW account and this one – but can you in any way explain the obvious similarities in editing style that (having compared them with numerous other users) are shared by ApostleVonColorado, Lisa.davis, Ms Sarah Welch, Mark.Muesse, M Tracy Hunter and MissMargaretBlack  but no others from the list of comparators?
 * 5)  CheckUser is a powerful tool but it has its limitations. I understand that what is being said is that the IP addresses that MSW has most recently used and that for this account in recent weeks are different. I presume we have no way of checking whether or not they bore any similarity at the time Lisa.davies was an active editor. I also realise there are strict limits to what can be said. Nonetheless, can you clarify what is meant by “Sarah's physical locations are different”. How different? 1 mile, 10 miles, 1000 miles?
 * 6) I hope you will pardon my caution here but this is a complex case. It seems that (perhaps for perfectly valid reasons) MSW intends to ‘clear her name’ and I think a full understanding of the facts is essential.   Ben   Mac  Dui  18:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It's more than just the locations being different, but to answer your question: about 1000 miles.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a way to obtain additional technical data. If Lisa.davis edits from her home on her home computer (assuming this is possible), I will then have reliable non-institutional data to compare to MSW's.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:32, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Comment: Ms Sarah Welch (MSW) was making unblock request almost 2 months before this unblock request was made here. In this unblock request I am seeing the repetition of same argument of MSW, that because these accounts didn't shared a number of the articles that's why these accounts are different persons. I find it unconvincing.

None of your diffs are showing any disclosure or mention of your connection with account. The two links that of the versions that you have cited about Tapas (Indian religions), (in place of citing the diffs showing the edit), shows no deletion of your content by MSW, contrary to your claim that "Sarah deleted most of my contributions".

In this kind of situation, the response should be swift but it has been a few days now that Lisa.davis was asked a number of questions and there has been still no response from Lisa.davis. Given the CheckUser results above ("unrelated/inconclusive"), falsification of evidence in the unblock request, strong evidence presented on SPI and consensus on ANI to block the accounts, I don't see any reason to accept this unblock request or even think about challenging the existing block. Capitals00 (talk) 06:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)