User talk:Lisa Finch

May 2011
Your addition to Square One Resources Ltd has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Copied from http://www.square.co.uk/en/about Whpq (talk) 00:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Square One Resources Ltd


A tag has been placed on Square One Resources Ltd, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Whpq (talk) 00:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011 (continued)
Hello Lisa Finch. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Square One Resources Ltd, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
 * 1) editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
 * 2) participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
 * 3) linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

The article Square One Resources Ltd has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article, which appeared to be about a real person, individual animal, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:09, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This section copied from Talk:Square One Resources Ltd

This page should not be speedy deleted because...

Regards to infringement of Copyright law It is my understanding that the page created for Square One Resources is not an infringement of copyright law for the following reasons: If it would be helpful for a letter from our Shareholder board or HR department to be sent confirming the above details I am more than happy to provide this.
 * 1) I am an employee of Square One Resources and authorised to publish this information
 * 2) The information was placed on this page at the request of the Square One Resources Shareholder board.
 * 3) I am the author of the text on the square One company website, where copyright infringement is deemed have taken place.
 * 4) The information is freely available in the public domain

Regards to Promotional materialThe text has now been fundementally amended in an attempt to be as neutral as possible and not to violate the terms against promotional of a w-page. Would you be able to let me know if it has now been edited in accordance to the wikipedia guidelines and if not to provide me with specific items which I could edit more appropriately.

It should perhaps be recognised that there are many companies and individuals who have pages on wikipedia. The existence of the page raises public awareness of those persons and companies and is therefore promotional by nature.

It is also noteworthy that a social media network are advertising to companies who do not currently have a presence with them. They say they will set up a company page on behalf of the company and verify company details from Wikipedia. This has generated huge interest for many companies, however it may also mean that an increased number of Wikipedia pages may be created which are deemed promotional. This may not be so, rather they are attempting to be recognised by a third party as a registered company.

Your further assistance in this would be appreciated.

Kind regards,

Lisa Finch Head of Business Support Square One Resources Ltd --Lisa Finch (talk) 11:52, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of copying your message contesting deletion from Talk:Square One Resources Ltd because the article page has already been deleted.

With respect to the copyright issue, Wikipedia's licensing for material is CC-BY-SA, which essentially means that any contributions must allow for others to build on it by altering the text, with attribution, and allowing for commercial use. According to the Square One web site, the material was copyrighted with all rights reserved which is not compatible with CC-BY-SA. If you really wish to provide this text under a CC-BY-SA license, and have the authority to do so, please see Donating copyrighted materials for the steps needed to donate the material. Note that this is no guarantee that the text will be accepted for an article, as it needs to be non-promotional, adhering to a neutral point of view.

As for having an article on Wikipedia, the inclusion guidelines that are relevant for a company such as Square One would be the general notability guidelines which apply to any article topic, and the inclusion guidelines for organisations and companies.

Finally, you can request a review of the deletion, after you've discussed the matter with the deleting adminstrator; in this case it is.

-- Whpq (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * To add to what Whpq has said: Wikipedia is a project to build an encyclopedia. It is not a business listing directory, and it is certainly not its role to let companies post their details in order that some other site can "verify" them, or to help companies "be recognised by a third party as a registered company". There are authoritative company registries for that. If what you want is to have some on-line listing for your company, try Wikicompany which, unlike Wikipedia, is interested in having an entry for every company.


 * Wikipedia's inclusion criterion is called notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people unconnected with the subject found it important enough to write significant comment about? More detail in WP:Notability (organizations and companies).


 * In order to preserve a neutral point of view contributors are strongly discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves, their bands, their companies or anything in respect of which they have a conflict of interest. If they must do so, there is a code of practice at WP:BESTCOI: in brief, propose changes or articles you would like to see, and let uninvolved users decide.


 * One important way in which Wikipedia differs from a listing directory is that its articles are not owned by their first authors, still less by their subjects: they can and will be edited by others, author or subject cannot insist on a preferred version, and many people encounter Wikipedia's law of unintended consequences.


 * There is more advice in the WP:FAQ/Organizations.


 * Regards, JohnCD (talk)