User talk:ListasBot/Archives/2010/April

Boy George Talk Page
Please restore what you deleted.

Why was the ENTIRE Talk section of Boy George's Talk page removed, of all content prior to 2010? You erratically removed the content, and while there was some constructive discussions on suggestions and changes to the main article were "heated", there were not any personal attacks. Also, the content which you removed was helpful and valuable. I for one, had sourced all of my content with references, recognized by Wikipedia. Also, what is left of his Talk page, are all comments by a non-Wikipedia User, who did not SIGN any of their comments. This is really unacceptable.

Thank you --Irshgrl500 11:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irshgrl500 (talk • contribs)
 * This bot had nothing to do with it. I would bring this up at the Help Desk.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  19:15, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Pointless edits
Why is the bot making edits like this? there is no reason to have it removing 1 empty field from a template and then relocating the listas field without actually making any changes seems pretty pointless.--Crossmr (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This is covered by ListasBot 2, points 5 and 7 (see the bot's user page):
 * 5. Remove any other parameters that are not listed at Template:WikiProject Biography/doc.
 * 7. Reorder all parameters to match the listing at Template:WikiProject Biography/doc, but only if some other change was going to be made to the page.
 * Thanks, Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  02:34, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That seems like pointless busy work in order to do other pointless busy work. No actual changes were made to anything on the page. I don't think either of those should happen unless there is something actually being done to the page in the first place which is going to result in a genuine change.--Crossmr (talk) 04:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well...that's kinda the whole point of having bots. They do all the pointless busy work so that you don't have to.


 * Honestly, part of the reason that my bot does what it does is for cleanup. There's other bots (or people using AWB) out there that deal with WPBiography, and some of them tend to get confused when the WPBiography template has stuff in it that they don't know how to handle.  So, while something so simple as "take out a blank parameter" may seem trivial, it actually makes things work better for others.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  06:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Listas on BoA
BoA, having a trailing capital letter should still be listed as BoA (I think, am not positive) I went ahead and reverted back. Your bot might have issues with rightfully capitalized trailing letters. Again, I know little about the listas parameter, so feel free to correct me. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 18:10, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I will... :-P. WP:MCSTJR (which generally tends to be the reference that most people look to for rules on how to format names for things like listas) says "The first letter of each word should be in upper case, and all subsequent letters should be in lower case, regardless of the correct spelling of the name."  Not a huge deal though -- I won't jump down your throat for it. :-)   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  18:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the correction. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 19:35, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Bot inserting capitals incorrectly
It changed William de Braose into William De Braose

and Bramber, Lord of  to Bramber, Lord Of  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougatwiki (talk • contribs) 21:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ummm, see the message directly above yours...  Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  21:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * We need an FAQ. >< NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs/Vote! 21:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Removal of priority parameter
Is there any new consensus? Priority is automatically meant to be of the task force if there is only one assigned. KingbtoK plugin adds it back! -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks like the consensus has been there for a while (PC78 says here that the decision goes back to 2006...in fact, he even names you as being the only person to raise any resistance). I'm just going off the fact that it's been removed from the documentation -- remember, one of ListasBot's functions is to "remove any parameters that are not listed at Template:WikiProject Biography/doc".  If KingbotK is adding it back in, I'd get with Kingboyk about it and see if it can be fixed.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  23:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs shows that I requested support of the new parameters since December. WPBiography as constructed at the moment handles |priority= as |(task-force-)priority= a long as there is only one task-foce assigned. KingbtoK plugin is rather old and needs update but this doesn't make the priority parameter unnecessary. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok...well, I can't help it if Kingbotk isn't being maintained. It looks like Kingboyk isn't very active anymore, so he may not be looking at AWB's bugs page.  You might try getting a hold of him directly through his talk page.  Keep in mind that right now, the bot is only removing blank priority's.  It's not removing anything where a value has been set.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  12:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I am referring to the plugin coming with AWB. It was originally created by Kingboy nut now the AWB team took over. We are planning a redesign in summer.-- Magioladitis (talk) 12:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok.  Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  13:20, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Here's an example. Empty priority parameters are created every day. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok...that doesn't change the fact that your bot is inserting an obsolete/deprecated parameter. That just means that my bot gets to come in and clean up after yours.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  23:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If this is the case, it would probably make sense to remove it using advanced F/R until WP:Plugin++ is fixed. No point in having one bot follow another, especially if its only edit is to remove the priority= (fairly trivial in itself). – xeno talk 20:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * All right, it's been turned off. Magio, please drop me a line when KingbotK has been fixed.   Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  00:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

← Hi Mikaey, haven't talked to you in a while. I noticed a very strange ListasBot edit, which does nothing but from the middle of WPBiography to the end. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  03:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it took out a hyphen from the listas tag.  Mikaey,  Devil's advocate  06:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed that. I've put back the hyphen in the listas and added one to the article's DEFAULTSORT. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)