User talk:Liz/Archive 23

Deletion of Talk:XLispStat
Hi. You deleted this page with reason G8 (Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page). But, I don't think that reason applies any more. Do you think you could undelete it? Thank you. SJK (talk) 03:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, SJK, no problem. Liz Read! Talk! 03:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! SJK (talk) 04:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Happy New Year! Hello Liz: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.


 * Have a grand 2019, CAPTAIN RAJU! Liz Read! Talk! 21:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!
Hello and Happy New Year!

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are, , and. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Categories
Hi, Liz

You nominated two categories, which were used in Gyem Dorji.— Bukhari  (Talk!)   11:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I haven't nominated any categories for CfD for a week, BukhariSaeed. I might have removed or added a category though. Liz Read! Talk! 21:51, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Gwin poeth sbeislyd i chi ...

 * Spicy hot wine sounds great on a cold January day, Gareth Griffith-Jones. I hope you are having a great New Year's Day! Liz Read! Talk! 21:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Oversight changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD:
 * G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is db-disambig; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
 * R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion).  This is db-redircom; the text is unchanged.
 * G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use db-blankdraft.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
 * Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.

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 * Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
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2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Gerda. I wish you a wonderful 2019! Liz Read! Talk! 00:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

C1
Hi Liz

Seven hours after I created Category:Iranian expatriate sportspeople by country of residence as part of a series, you tagged it as WP:C1.

It will be populated today, and then the tag will need to be removed.

Is such prompt tagging really a good use of anyone's time? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I work off of the Database Report for Empty Categories, BrownHairedGirl, and so far the main problems that have arisen have been with 2019 categories that have not been populated yet. I'll remove the misplaced tag from yesterday. My apologies. Liz Read! Talk! 20:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Liz
 * The database report is a good place to start. However, I suggest not tagging cats which are less than a day or two old.   Plenty of editors create  cats in batches, and then  populate them later.
 * Also, if the newly-created 2019 cats are part of an established series, then they will usually be populated soon. So again, no point in tagging them. - Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, BrownHairedGirl, I appreciate your advice. When I came back to edit WP in October, I might have done so with too much enthusiasm. That can happen when I find a task that is backlogged (there were over 1200 listed empty categories). It's all caught up now but I'll keep your advice in mind. Liz Read! Talk! 02:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah. I totally understand.  Clearing big backlogs requires fast work, making snap decisions.
 * When I started work on Special:WantedCategories, it had a backlog of (IIRC) about 30,000. The only way to do it was a blitz: work v fast, with a team of us at it.  It took a few months ... and once it was all done, we could relax and scrutinise a bit more and leave nicer notes for editors etc. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

An notice
Please see [] Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, Hell in a Bucket. It sounds like you've undergone quite a reappraisal of a past conflict. Liz Read! Talk! 20:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I try to continually self improve myself, after what happened towards the end of that case happened I was truly sickened. I didn't know and was disgusted that I was associated with people doing those actions. Time helps too, I needed to leave and disengage. A block would have left me salty but this gave me time to make up my own mind and comes to terms with things too so I'm thankful it was only a Iban. I honestly thought of things being over-reactions more then real life common occurrences but education has shown me differently. I'm getting older (closer to 40 then 30 damn it) and in the interim I have encountered significant new health problems and my best friend was murdered, it might lead a person to make some changes and soul searching. I'll be ok however it comes down I would like to be out from under it but either way we live and hopefully learn. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:26, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for your loss, Hell in a Bucket. I've wrestled with my own health problems that ended up providing me with an extended Wikibreak. I actually recommend breaks, I've had two, I left both times tired out from conflicts with other editors (or just the ordinary abrasiveness that is common here) and always came back refreshed and ready to get back to work. I hope your health improves...in the end, it is way more important than editing an encyclopedia. Liz Read! Talk! 02:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree, thankfully my health problems didn't keep me from Wiki but I did come back refreshed. Thanks for your kind words and I will see you round the pedia . Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

PAVA cloud CSD rejection
Hey, I saw that you rejected the speedy deletion request that I posted to PAVA cloud on the grounds that we should consider the merge first. However, the merge was proposed by me, and completed by me already, so I really don't think there's anything left to do with the merge. That having been said, I see that one of the sources uses "PavaCloud™" in its marketing, so I'm going to change the article to a redirect instead of refiling for deletion, as that seems reasonably appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 18:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, Rosguill. I appreciate the explanation. Liz Read! Talk! 20:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

concerning your revision
the last good revision needed translation which I did you undid something I had to do

i only encourage you to take the highest consideration of what i have written

in highest regards bradleyagin 19:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talk • contribs)
 * Can you be more specific? What page are you referring to, Bradleyagin? Liz Read! Talk! 19:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Isabeau of Bavaria bradleyagin 23:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talk • contribs)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Markcus (January 4)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Buidhe was:

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<b style="color: White">b</b><b style="color: White">ui</b><b style="color: White">dhe</b> (formerly Catrìona) 00:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Buidhe but I just submitted this draft I came across while tagging and deleting old drafts under G13. I thought it was ready for main space but I guess not. I'll look it over again. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:17, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

hey
Nice to see you still around as well Liz - and ditto on the "have a great 2019" :-) — Ched : ?    —  06:06, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ched. 2019 is starting off okay except for the shutdown. Here's hoping everyone can get back to work soon! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome message Suggestion
Hey, thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia. Just an FYI, you may to check talk pages before you post your welcome message at the top in case the user has put something there already. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 00:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see another welcome note unless you have removed one from your talk page. I use Twinkle (an editing tool) and Twinkle always puts welcome notices at the very top of the user talk page. I just noticed that you only registered your account a week ago and hadn't been welcomed yet. If the note irritates you, please delete it, Wallyfromdilbert. Editors can remove everything but block notices & deletion tags from their own talk page. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I had a link with the text "Click here to start a new topic" at the top of my talk page that I had put there shortly after creating my account. I have already moved it back to the top of my talk page above your welcome message, and I am aware that I can delete it from my own talk page. Also, the default setting in Twinkle is to place welcome messages below other content already on someone's talk page. You must have changed the default setting. Hence why I said you may want to look at the talk pages before you post so that you do not move down messages placed by the user themselves. If they have something already placed at the top of their own talk page and you want to post a welcome message, then change back to the default settings in Twinkle before posting. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 01:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, my mistake was in assuming you are a new editor, Wallyfromdilbert. Stay on your toes, if you have a Wikipedia history. The truth comes out in the end. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just because I'm a new editor doesn't mean that I don't try to read on the policies before I do things, even if I make mistakes in some of my edits. Going through my preferences and looking at the settings is pretty basic, and I'm not quite sure why an experienced user would try to be misleading about how Twinkle works. Way to assume good faith about me though with your statement. I know that's big here especially considering you have it in your banner when others edit your talk page. Maybe you should try it yourself. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 04:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You know, Wally, I took a minute from my editing to simply posted a Welcome message to what I thought was a new editor. And you are making a big deal over what was meant as a simple friendly gesture from one editor to another. Now, I regret even extending you a hand of friendship. I won't respond any further and if you have any problems, you can take them to another administrator. I will revert or delete any further messages you post here and I've never said that to another editor before in my 5 years editing on Wikipedia. Good bye and good luck with your editing. So long. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Mostafa Matar
Hi! I worte Draft:Mostafa Matar, could you check it and move it to main space wiki. So thank you ! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk) 03:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, Justice,ScienceandFree,
 * I am not familiar with the standards for notability for football, so I've submitted it to Articles for Creation for a reviewer to look at. I also recommend you visiting WikiProject Football talk page and make contact with other editors who work in this area. I'm sure they could offer you some assistance and advice on your articles. Good luck. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank, God bless you! —

Categories...
Yes, I'd removed the empty category on those, because they aren't likely to be filled in a useful fashion now that the templates that filled them were actively removed. IIRC I placed the empty category on them, originally, when it was a possibility they could be filled. That is no longer the case.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:24, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation, ShakespeareFan00. This whole EmptyCat issue is one I've been thinking about because the tag is being used on over 20,000 category pages, many more than is warranted. I'm hoping to post at the Village Pump soon to get some ideas on ways to be sure the tag is being utilized correctly and when necessary. I'm reluctant to remove the tag because I've run into disagreement about it even though many of those same empty categories are still empty and are likely to remain so. An editor puts a tracking or maintenance tag and an empty cat tag on a category and it is if the decision is written in stone. I think many of these categories need to be reviewed. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Mostafa Matar has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;width: 100%;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mostafa Matar. Thanks! Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Saint-Brieuc Museum of Art and History (January 10)
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—  python coder    (talk &#124; contribs) 01:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Yarkon Bridge Trio
Hello, I am (as a fairly new editor) trying to expand articles relating to Israeli Music. I seen that the Yarkon Bridge Trio was previously deleted by you (to be clear: I didn't edited the deleted article and I don't know what was in the content). Is it OK with you if I'd have another go in writing this article, trying to make it as detailed as possible?--Daffidovic (talk) 08:03, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course, Daffidovic, go for it. Yarkon Bridge Trio was deleted because of A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article. Here were the entire contents of the article that was deleted:


 * hayarkon trio'''
 * the yarkon trio was an entertiment group active in israel between 1963-1966
 * Bulleted list item
 * Bulleted list item


 * So, I think given that it was only a sentence long, anything would be an improvement. I have restored it and moved it to Draft:Yarkon Bridge Trio where you can work on it. Good luck with your editing! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:11, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. I worked on the article over the weekend and uploaded it now.--Daffidovic (talk) 06:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Parliament categories
Hi Liz,

Regarding categories like the one in this edit - AIUI the general practice is for these categories to be one per Parliament, not per year. Circa 1400, there were about a dozen years with two parliaments each, which complicates things a bit. The memberships are apparently often quite distinct, with (for example) only 35 of 157 members from April 1414 known to reappear in the November 1414 Parliament, so it doesn't seem to make sense to lump them together in a single category. I'm not incredibly keen on the full "Month XXXX" names but I can't think of a snappier form (early/late?)

I've just finished some work on indexing MPs for the 1300s-1400s and I'm hoping to start populating the categories in a short while (probably need to set up a bot request first, as it'll be about 2500 edits). I had recategorised a couple of the existing ones as part of the preparation work but forgotten to list the old entries for deletion.

Hope you don't mind if I roll back your changes here and list the "amalgamated" categories for deletion instead! I'll hold off doing it until tomorrow in case you have concerns. Andrew Gray (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I see you've rolled some these changes back and listed the new categories for deletion again. As I noted, splitting these years into two for the two distinct parliaments is consistent with the way these are handled elsewhere (one cat per parliamentary term), and lumping them together when they have potentially quite distinct memberships seems arbitrary. I don't want to proceed with populating these cats until this is a bit more stable, and I'm not sure why you feel they ought to be merged - is there a category policy rule I'm missing? Andrew Gray (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Am I missing something?
You nominated a number of cats, e.g Category:Fuegotrophon for deletion with the rationale that they are empty, yet they are not.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  23:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Juice Press
I've seen you go through stale drafts quite a few times. Do you think this is worth saving from a G13? -- Dolotta (talk) 18:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * At the risk of lighting up your talk page, Draft:Jennifer A Heemstra may be something you might be interested in as well. -- Dolotta (talk) 18:48, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, Dolotta, I'm just seeing your message now, I don't know why I didn't get a notification of your messages yesterday. It looks like Draft:Juice Press has since been deleted but I'll review the article and restore it if I think it might clear AfC (my acceptance record is so-so but I have had a few successes). I'll look at Draft:Jennifer A Heemstra, too, but since it isn't a red link, it looks like some other editor or admin has worked on it. Thanks for the notice and the good work you do tagging stale drafts. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Draft:Juice Press had some reliable sources but the predominant editor is a now-blocked paid editor and it reads like an advertisement with a great deal of detail about its investors. Draft:Jennifer A Heemstra has some potential but it is an autobiography and it is not correctly referenced. But I did a little editing which will spare it for another 6 months in case an editor with an interest in classical music would like to work on it. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Luis Peña (MMA) has been accepted
<div style="border:solid 1px #57DB1E; background:#E6FFE6; padding:1em; padding-top:0.5em; padding-bottom:0.5em; width:20em; color:black; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Luis Peña (MMA), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Eagleash (talk) 01:51, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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Draft:New Hampshire State Senate elections, 2016
Yes I would like for the draft article and the work I put into it to be restored. Thank you. User:Jon698User talk:Jon698
 * ✅ Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:Taiwanese railway station stubs
Hi Liz, perhaps you could help. During NPP I approved between 10-25 stub articles about Taiwanese rail stations. In so doing, I tagged them as stubs. In creating the stub, I also created this cat. But I cannot populate any of the articles with this cat. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I don't create many cats, so obviously I've screwed it up somehow. Here are a few of the stub articles which belong in the cat: Xiangshan railway station, Sanxingqiao railway station, Yutengping railway station, Yutengping railway station. had deleted it once before, and then restored it. I am struggling with populating the cat... thanks.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 01:45, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, onel5969,
 * I work with categories a lot and I've found HotCat to be invaluable. It makes adding, changing and deleting categories a breeze if you know which ones you want to assign to the article. Once you click the - or + and start typing, the likely possible categories will appear and you can select the one you want. This only works with existing categories, ones that have already been created.
 * Do not bother with the Advanced usage instructions on the HotCat page, just look at the "How to use" section. Go to your Preferences>Gadgets>Editing and click the HotCat button. Let me know if you have any questions but it should make assigning categories much easier and faster for you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz... yes, I use HotCat as well... and in this instance, if you click on any of the articles I list above, and attempt to add this cat, it won't let you. Not sure what to do.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 02:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, onel5969, so you know about HotCat. I don't know why the category isn't showing up when you use that tool so I just edited those 3 pages that you mentioned and added Category:Taiwanese railway station stubs to the page and it shows up. Do you mind doing that for 10-25 more articles? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. Oddly enough it still won't let me add it using HotCat.  So I'm simply adding the cat manually to all the applicable articles I can find.  Take care. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 12:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Scale-invariant feature operator has been accepted
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G13 refund
Hi, is there any way you could be able to restore Draft:Amphetamine synthesis? As far as I'm aware, its creator wasn't notified it had become eligible for deletion. – Uanfala (talk) 01:02, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ I made a minor edit to restart the 6 month clock. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:07, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (On a side note, you might want to be aware of WT:CSD). – Uanfala (talk) 01:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing me to that conversation, Uanfala. Some old drafts (see Draft:Shona Tucker) indicate that they are now ready to be deleted. Others, have no pink tag that says it's okay to delete and so I tag them CSD G13 which notifies the creator. Maybe the AfC submission tag should be changed. Drafts that have not been submitted to AfC do not receive a tag that states it's okay to delete them. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Tracking categories
Hi Liz

Please take a look at the revision history of template sportsyearcatusstate on invalid page, which I just restored.

It's an error-tracking category. Such categories may be empty some or all the time. Ideally they will, be empty nearly all of the time ... so being empty is not grounds for deleting them.

In this case, your tagging on the category for WP:C1 was reverted by, but with a note summarising some of the above ... but you deleted it anyway.

I only spotted this just now, and restored the category, adding Possibly empty category.

If you encounter empty tracking categories, please do not just speedy-delete the, especially when that speedy has been opposed.

In most cases it will be best to tag them with Possibly empty category, but it is best to check whether the template is still using the tracking category.

In the case above, the tracking cat contained a link to Template:SportsYearCatUSstate, where the documentation explicitly mentions the tracking category. I struggle to see why you thought deletion was appropriate. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:28, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess I took some instructions too literally. Most categories that are sometimes empty, sometimes filled, have a tag on them. If I don't see a tag, I think it's okay to delete. Thank you for pointing out that I shouldn't do this without a further inquiry. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

An association for Mesopedians
Hi greetings, I created an Wikipedian association named Association of Mesopedianist Wikipedians for mesopedians. Would you mind joining in it? Regards.-- PATH SLOPU (Talk) 14:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, Path slopu. I'll check out the page but I'm not sure what joining a Wikipedia Association on the Meta site involves other than a userbox. Congratulations on the creation of the Association though and taking the initiative. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:37, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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Just curious
so I'm told you left me a message this morning (world timely that's about 6 hours ago) couldn't find it untill i checked history. all you added was a header (aka ==Welcome==) it confused me because all of a sudden the page now has a Table of Contents. was that the intention? and How did you know it was needed? I looked through all revisions and saw no ToC until now --Qazwiz (talk) 12:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I guess it is a personal quirk of mine, Qazwiz, but I hate to see content placed above a table of contents on user and article talk pages. All you need to do is place a header on the content and the table of contents rises to the top of the page. I hope it didn't bother you.
 * By the way, an editor receives a notice any time anyone edits your user talk page...sometimes I have to search to find an edit and sometimes the edits are later reverted by another editor and there is no change at all to the talk page! An edit doesn't always mean that someone has left a message. You can also set your preferences regarding your notifications and either receive no notification or an email notification. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * so the confusion was my notification said "left a message" because it didn't know it was a "clean up" .... your edit doesn't bother me, quite the contrary after your explanation it clears up more puzzlement. Back when i was more active on wikipedia i was bothered that others had an index but my talk didn't. THANK YOU, refreshing that editors here know more than how to revert my multi hour edits LOL  (sorry but reason i'm so cynical about wiki nowadays is Ive had about 50 - 100 hours of edits reverted POOF and "qazwiz? what qazwiz?" (oh, and that 50 hours isn't as much most would think... i'm slow typist and seldom do my hunt n peck on real keyboard, rather use the virtual keyboard and mouse hunt n pecks so takes very long time for this perfectionist to do what others do in minutes)  :: Qazwiz (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Undeletion of maintenance categories
Could you undelete Those are maintenance categories, and they should not be deleted just because they are empty. They can be marked with Possibly empty category to prevent deletion in the future too. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:53, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Category:Infobox journals with missing Bluebook abbreviations
 * Category:Infobox journals with missing MathSciNet abbreviations
 * Category:Infobox journals with missing NLM abbreviations

✅, Headbomb, and added tag to otherwise empty categories. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:46, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Category:People of Celtic Descent
Thank you for your input. My input was very clumsy, yet not in bad faith. I hope this can be resolved as I do not with to engage in endless edit wars with BrownEyedGirl or DuncanHill. Their lack of explanation for creating and applying the categories, and reverting my deletes, pushed me into this. I hoped it could be left in some form to apply to Iron Age folk, but it and its offshoot categories may really be best deleted. They really are too fuzzy for use. Fergananim (talk) 17:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Fergananim, if Wikipedia eliminated all editors who have been involved in a dispute with other editors, there would be no editors left to work on the encyclopedia! You look through my talk page archives (or those of CfD) and you'll see the times where BrownEyedGirl and I were on opposite sides of a dispute. And while we still do not also agree with each other, I have learned that BrownEyedGirl knows the ins and outs of categorization better than I do and she is (almost!) always right, as least as far as policy goes. I now believe that some of the categorization policies would be good to change but that will take a time when I have more time and energy to deal with an RfC on those matters.
 * The great thing about Wikipedia is that you do learn how things are done the more time you spend editing. It might be that in the future, you do come up with some appropriate and well-defined categorizations that Wikipedia doesn't already have or that work better than what we have now and this time, your changes will stick! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:04, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Request for comment List of churches in Sweden
You nominated this list for deletion. I voted "keep" (and I find I was wrong). I am trying to make this list useable. I am working on editing the list, but it is massive. I would appreciate your comment on the talk page of the article. Thanks Aurornisxui (talk) 17:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It is an enormous list, Aurornisxui and I'm not sure about the source for the information. I've glanced at the talk page discussion and I agree with other editors that this list would be much more manageable if it was broken down into geographic areas. What I've seen in other subjects has been to come up with lists that cover the main/primary large cities, first, and then work outward towards secondary cities, and later provinces/states/counties.
 * The problem with this list, and why it was nominated, is that it is just so gigantic, having an entire country's churches on a single list is hard to navigate. Break it into smaller lists and it'll be easier to tackle and it won't seem so overwhelming. It will also be more satisfying as you finish one list and then move to another rather than attempting to update this list with its thousands of churches. Kudos to you for taking on this project! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you Liz, it is overwhelming. The sources for the information are Swedish Wikipedia (which has some excellent references) and, more importantly, The Swedish National Historic Board. I was planning on making just one list, but break it into pages. I don't want to clutter things up any more than they already are. Aurornisxui (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Category:2019 World Men's Handball Championship squad templates
Hey, it will be filled. I started and will work on it the coming weeks/months. Kante4 (talk) 16:49, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Request
Could you please restore Category:Russian Orthodox churches in Moscow? I guess it has been emptied out of process. It is obvious that there are enough articles that could be added to this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, Marcocapelle. Let's work on populating this category. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:39, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, 17 articles in it right now. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Category:List of theatre directors in the 20th and 21st centuries: Revision history
Created in error.... happy to have it deleted .... am a rookie ... dont know how to do that :{{ Oldtaxman (talk) 17:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oldtaxman, the category was tagged yesterday as an empty category. It will sit for another 6 days and then it will be deleted if no articles are assigned to the category by Feb. 18th. So, you have 6 days to use it if you still envision it being a viable category. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

OK Cheers Oldtaxman (talk) 08:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Shanelle Nyasiase
I tagged the draft of Shanelle Nyasiase for deletion because I created the article already as I was tired of going back and forth with an unexperienced editor who kept submitting it as a troll when it clearly wasn’t ready and would have been declined. It has to be deleted because now it’s a duplicate. Yet people over at ANI wanted to turn it into something personal and clearly not understanding what is wrong. For that reason, nothing else needs to be done with the draft unless the troll wants to continue their futile doodles.Trillfendi (talk) 04:38, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Trillfendi, I deleted Draft:Shanelle Nyasiase because a version has been moved to mainspace. If this is not what you wanted, let me know and I can restore it. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:12, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

David Boren
Hello, I noticed that you undid an edit on this page. I've also undid the same kind of edit (twice over a three to four day period) from that account and what I presume to be an IP associated with it. I know this is already pushing the 3RR. I really want to avoid turning this into an edit war but four different editors have each reverted their edits, what should be my next course of action regarding their actions.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 14:51, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * AATTPP has only made 4 edits, UCO2009bluejay, but I'll keep an eye on that account and put the article on my watchlist. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Nubile page?
Hi, I got a notification that the page Nubile was deleted. While I can't remember the page in detail, I was obviously involved, but now I can't see history to find out. Was it a redirect...vague memory perhaps linked to lotita, or did I change it from lolita to something like sexual attraction maybe (as lolita was not the correct context). "Term not even mentioned on target article" I suspect that would lead to a large number of redirects being deleted. Surely there will be people who search for Nubile, as I suspect I did, and while a specific page may not be extant a redirect to a similar topic is warranted? ˥ Ǝ Ʉ H Ɔ I Ɯ (talk) 06:22, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You really think that readers will do a search for the obscure, literary term "nubile"? The page was a one line redirect to Physical attractiveness and there was no mention of what nubile was, what it referred to, much less any meaning of the word. I wouldn't be opposed to a new article but it seemed like a useless redirect when connection to "nubile" and attractiveness wasn't even spelled out. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:28, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The dictionary defn contains e.g. "2. Sexually mature and attractive. Used of young women.", the linked article 2nd line "The term often implies sexual attractiveness or desirability", which I felt was a better match than lolita, it is a back step to delete things rather than evolve/improve.  Anyway...I just didn't think linking it to lolita was appropriate, so having it deleted achieves the same end. I'm starting to get a carefactor in wiki editing anyway...˥ Ǝ Ʉ  H Ɔ I Ɯ (talk) 06:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Typo fix
Thanks for this! ~ Amory <small style="color:#555"> (u • t • c) 10:53, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Nubile
Wouldn't it have been better to just point the page to Wiktionary? People are going to keep turning the "Nubile" link blue. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:56, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea, Flyer22 Reborn. I hadn't thought of that. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages consultation 2019
The Wikimedia Foundation has invited the various Wikimedia communities, including the English Wikipedia, to participate in a consultation on improving communication methods within the Wikimedia projects. As such, a request for comment has been created at Talk pages consultation 2019. You are invited to express your views in the discussion. ~ Winged Blades Godric 05:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * That should be interesting, Winged Blades of Godric. Thanks for the invitation. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Question about an old edit
Hello, Liz,

I have gone back and looked. It appears information about J&K of South Africa (a company that does not exist), was smuggled into Uganda Oil Refinery and Energy in Uganda. I agree with you that it is a hoax. Fsmatovu 02:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's good news, Fsmatovu! I thought you were far too experienced to be part of all of this mess. It's dismaying for me to see that these hoax edits by a wanna-be billionaire (especially on Black Billionaires) have just been repeated verbatim across the internet. I thought journalists would do more fact-checking. It makes me feel even more strongly about WP:V. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

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