User talk:Liz/Archive 26

A Dobos torte for you!

 * Thank you, Lightburst! That is very thoughtful of you! Liz Read! Talk! 20:44, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Would you consider a bribe?
If you reverse your vote I will add you to Category:Unblockable users then you too can be unblockable. Jehochman Talk 23:28, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That's alright. I like living on the edge. Liz Read! Talk! 22:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Talk page access
You might want to revoke this user's talk page access. —Rutilant 07:30, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Cullen328. You really are up all night! Liz Read! Talk! 23:59, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That was just a little bit after midnight for me, Liz. I need to watch the late night comedy talk shows to unwind, while editing Wikipedia during the commercials and boring parts. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:48, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I totally understand although I'm an early bird, rather than a night owl. I edit while watching sitcoms that don't require rapt attention. My family has gotten use to watching me edit while the television is on. I couldn't do this if I was working on content creation but for evaluating spammy pages and tagging them, it's no problem. Liz Read! Talk! 00:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Your first edit you give me a barnstar? Who are you? Have we met, under another account? Liz Read! Talk! 00:00, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Edge Gravity by Ericsson
I see you deleted Draft:Edge Gravity by Ericsson under WP:G12. I don't think that applies. Per https://www.uspto.gov/terms-use-uspto-websites, the content of patents is not copyrighted. There may be other reasons to delete this, but not G12. -- RoySmith (talk) 10:40, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * My mistake then. Thank you for calling it to my attention, Roy, I've restored it. Liz Read! Talk! 16:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Excuse me
Thank you for processing for speedy deletion Template:Current Austrian Football Bundesliga table. But I found one error. Sawol (talk) 03:38, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Template talk:Current Austrian Football Bundesliga table
 * Restore Template talk:2014–15 Austrian Football Bundesliga table
 * ✅, Sawol, because I trust you know more about Austrian football than I do. Liz Read! Talk! 03:44, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Holy Fire - SPI
I have opened a WP:SPI at Sockpuppet investigations/Tounom, because our friend came back as User:Tunom with the same M.O. Elizium23 (talk) 07:11, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, Elizium23. I'll protect the article if it hasn't already been protected. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. His latest target is . Elizium23 (talk) 23:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, he is certainly passionate. I'll check the accounts and that article. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:19, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you are possessed by deamons, thats why you dont want to accept the legitimate and well documented contribution regarding Martyr Tunom Tunom (talk) 07:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I dont think I made any personal attack. Martyr Tunom is a well known Saint who is closely related to the Holy Fire. Additionaly he is a person who gave a testimony of the existance of the Holy Fire, and paid this testimony with his life. You allow all other testimonies (mostly against Holy Fire), but you deny this one which was paid by a person's life. Some wikipedians dont want this perfectly legitimate and documented information to appear here. Not only they revert but also they delete the contribution fiercly. For this tottaly irrational attack what other reasonable explaination could you give, if not that they are possessed by deamons, the same deamons that caused Tunom's death? You will certainly be punished by God, for fighting against Truth. Tunom8 (talk) 08:45, 12 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Tunom inserted three nails into the ground and said. In this way, the nails will be inserted into the eyes of those who do not believe. In this way the nails will be inserted in to your eyes too. Just pray that this to happen to you in this temproary life, and not in after life that never ends.Tunom9 (talk) 11:06, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Category:1954 in volleyball
Hello Liz, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Category:1954 in volleyball, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Category is populated or is otherwise allowed to be empty. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 09:44, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I know the criteria, DeltaQuad. Empty categories that have been tagged sit for 7 days in a separate category and often times get populated during this week. In those cases, we remove the CSD tag and they are removed from the category. It is only when they are empty for seven days and stay empty that they are deleted.
 * There are strict criteria for empty categories that are allowed to stay empty...tracking categories, category redirects, categories that are subjects of CfD discussions. Otherwise, empty categories are deleted. They can always be recreated if there later proves to be a need for them unless they were subject to a CfD deletion. If you ever see a CSD C1 tagged category that has pages that have been assigned to it, feel free to remove the tag from the category. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 18:15, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * P.S. I just tag empty categories that appear on this list, Database reports/Empty categories.Category:1954 in volleyball might have contents now, but it was empty when I tagged it on July 5th. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 18:56, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz, sorry, I didn't know it was you that put up the notice, I know you are aware of the policy. I failed to actually look who put the notice as I just use a script that easily declines or deletes. I didn't notify for the two other ones. Had I known it was for you, I would have just declined without the automated notice. Apologies. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 01:06, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I was surprised by your message, DeltaQuad, but I don't mind your questions at all. I am disturbed by admins I think are acting on CSD notices without evaluating the page first. I declined one speedy delete the other day and then I found another admin had gone ahead and deleted the article. So, I restored it.
 * I'm not sure what to do but I am sure there are pages being deleted that if I had looked at them first, I would have removed the deletion tag. Probably not enough material to take someone to ArbCom but I think we have to rethink our mass delete approach. Especially when an article is in a sandbox or in draft space, we should allow pages to improve over time. I wish admins would spend more time educating new editors rather than obliterating their efforts. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

User:Jshorton11/sandbox deletion
Hey Liz, I guess I moved my sandbox page to the public space? Certainly didn't mean too. My apologies, Jeff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshorton11 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Jeff,
 * You moved your sandbox to M. Basheer Ahmed M.D. where another admin deleted the page because it was deemed to be a copyright violation, text taken from a press release (which you can see if you look at the deleted page). I deleted the sandbox page because it was a broken redirect to the deleted page.
 * Please remember that all content has to be original, written by you and not taken from any website, book or magazine. Please look over Copyrights for more information. If you have any additional questions, I recommend visiting the Teahouse where experienced editors can offer you advice. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes Liz, I will re submit that article again after I fix these issues. I am new to wiki so I will take any help I can get! I think the descriptions of the organizations he founded may have been the problem but I'm waiting to hear back from the administrator that deleted the article. I wish he had given me a heads up about the problems and I would have fixed them right away. Anyway, hope your having a great day... and Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshorton11 (talk • contribs) 20:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Liz, can you offer some advice for me on this article? Can I get this article back in my sandbox as it was so I don't have to rebuild it? I know you are probably very busy but any help would be so appreciated. Also will I be able to resubmit this from my sandbox once I fix the issues? Wikipedia suggests using Special:Mypage to create a new article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jshorton11 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, Jeff,
 * I have emailed you a draft. Please do not put it back into your sandbox without fixing the copyright issues or it will be deleted again. We can not have copyright violations on Wikipedia. If you want help with the article, I recommend vising Articles for Creation. And please sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ ). Good luck! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:38, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes Liz, I understand. Thanks again! Jshorton11 (talk) 22:45, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

block
Please block user:2409:4064:20a:1616::3c7:f0a4. They are evading a block too. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 23:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Why? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * They are vandalizing. Please do it quickly. They are so fast. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Come on. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 23:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ I have to investigate the editor, I just can't block a user because you say so. That said, you were right, they were spamming Wikipedia. Thank you for letting me know. I appreciate it. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:46, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

List of events at Maxwell C. King Center for the Performing Arts
Please undelete this page. I had added a few refs, but had not gotten the opportunity to fully source it yet. Thanks. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 10:57, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, FieldMarine. Please remember the criticism of original research that prompted the PROD and make sure you have some additional reliable sources to verify the information in the article. Happy editing! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 14:34, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I will do my best. If it does not work out, we can delete it. I will need some time though. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 15:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I understand. We can always move it to your user sandbox if you want to protect it from deletion. Just let me know. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:31, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Block
Could you please block user:49.183.57.34 so they stop their bad edits? 99.53.112.186 (talk) 15:04, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:29, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Thonburi University F.C.
Please restore Thonburi University F.C. because Thonburi University Football Club is a football club in Thailand, it competed in Thai League 4 since 2019 season. This is the club's data from Thai League official website. This article has deleted in 2018 since the club has not promoted to the professional league. at that time, they have not enough of sources. But now in 2019 season, They has promoted to Thai League 4 that is a professional league. We could found the club's info in the official website of Thai League that have a lot of data including fixture, result, standing, and all player's statistics. In addition, Thonburi University Football Club has competed in 2019 Thai League Cup and advanced to the round of 16 by beaten the club from the top division Samut Prakan City F.C.. This is the news from Thai League official website about drawing in the round of 32. And this is drawing in the round of 16 Thonburi University vs PT Prachuap, this is the match highlight. There are a lot of news about Thonburi University F.C. such as this showed that Thonburi University funded 5 millions Thai Baht to competed in the 2019 season of Thai League 4, and they will renaming to Thonburi United F.C. in 2020 season, now you can found this name on the club's official Facebook page that update every situations of the club. —Gunkiet (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, Gunkiet, but I can not restore it. It was deleted because of a decision at the discussion at Articles for deletion/Ayodhya City F.C. which came to the conclusion that Discussion shows that whilst some sourcing can be found for these clubs the level of coverage is at best trivial / routine. You can appeal this decision at Deletion review if you feel like the deletion discussion was closed in error. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Gunkiet, Deletion Review is usually where we send editors to recover pages that were deleted due to a deletion discussion but you could also try Requests for undeletion. You might have more success there. Good luck! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Battle of Parker's Ferry?
Hi, I'm Ajack87. I wrote an article called the battle of parker's ferry. However, it got deleted for copyright infringement. Can I rewrite it again using legitimate sources? How can I fix it. What sources can I use that would be legal and legitimate for my article? And how do I site them properly? Ajack87 (talk) 00:28, 26 July 2019 (UTC)Ajack87


 * Of course you can try again, Ajack87! Copyright violations has information about copyright on Wikipedia but it is pretty dense. Basically, you can not reuse any material you find anywhere (websites, books, magazines, etc.) verbatim. The content of an article has to be written in your own words.


 * You should use sources to cite any claims you make. Help:Referencing for beginners is user-friendly and it can answer your questions about how to create references for an article. Help:Referencing for beginners without using templates is a very short How-to article that is very basic. Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/1 explains why references are so important. I hope this helps.


 * For more specific questions, please visit Help desk or the Teahouse with your questions. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:58, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Liz. Thank you for the chance to fix my article and re-write it properly. Thank you for the Reference for beginners and the help introduction. Sincerely Ajack87 (talk)

Woohoo

 * Thank you very much, Mjs1991. I don't keep track of these dates and it is nice to be surprised! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:43, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you...
I feel supported by the message you left about the legal threat; I've had quite a few of them over the years from the same type of people (owners of small and dying television networks insisting they're not collapsing; one of them used their website to taunt me)...but this one got to me because of their tenacity; I'm glad I have support in these tasks. I thank you again.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 08:16, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Encouragement is the least we can do for editors who face these threats. If it persists, please contact WMF Legal and let us know so we can block the new accounts. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:42, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Category:Futsal clubs in Tajikistan
Hellow. Category is not empty. Bogic (talk) 10:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right, Bogic. This is not uncommon. That's why we hold empty categories for 7 days after they are tagged in case they are later filled. We always check categories that are tagged to see that they are still empty before they are deleted. I removed the tag earlier today. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Burnaby Gondola and Burnaby Mountain Gondola
Hi there,

I don't understand your "This is a valid redirect" reasoning on this edit and this one. They were created today and created with an obvious capitalization issue ("gondola" not being proper noun) so sure, someone might type them in that way but we don't need redirects for that because Wikipedia automatically handles differently cased entries without the need for a redirect. That is, if either redirect did not exist, people could still type or link to either "Burnaby Gondola" or "Burnaby Mountain Gondola" and get to the right place. In fact, where you created the new redirect "Burnaby Gondola", you've actually added a redirect that wasn't needed, apparently because I asked for them to be deleted, so... could you reconsider? I don't see what we gain by keeping these that isn't already auto-handled internally by the wiki software. —Joeyconnick (talk) 05:42, 26 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Okay, Joeyconnick, I see your point. I think they were tagged incorrectly. Based on what you say, the correct CSD criteria is R3: Redirects as a result of an implausible typo or misnomers that were recently created. They fit that category. So, I've tagged and deleted them. Thank you for explaining your rationale for tagging them which was unclear to me. We have plenty of redirects with simple misspellings or other slight changes in title and it seemed at the time I reviewed them that these were valid redirects. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:59, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response and explanation! I wouldn't have thought to tag these as "implausible" typos or misnomers because it's quite plausible (and indeed it happened here LOL) that someone might misname something using incorrect capitalization. I thought there was a category for recently created violations of WP:SENTENCECASE but maybe I'm imagining that. I picked G6 because it includes Deleting pages unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace and felt the creation was unambiguously in error (albeit a minor error). Anyway, no harm done, apparently. 🙂 —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:12, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

José de Gregorio
Hi. I want to delete the page José de Gregorio since the correct name is José De Gregorio. That's why I redirected it and put the previous one out. Please delete to not have double page. --Cuidro (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, Cuidro,
 * Actually, the page is serving a useful purpose as a redirect page. This ensures that if a reader types in the incorrect name--José de Gregorio--they will be immediately directed to the correct name, José De Gregorio. Wikipedia has quite a few redirect pages because not everyone knows the correct spelling for names or terms or what the correct title of an article is. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 19:08, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Liz reappointed full clerk
The Arbitration Committee is pleased to announce that has been reappointed to the clerk team as a full clerk, effective immediately.

The arbitration clerk team is often in need of new members, and any editor who would like to join the clerk team is welcome to apply by e-mail to clerks-l@lists.wikimedia.org.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 14:40, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard

/* User:Lize56/sandbox */
Hello Liz, my article has been deleted today. How can I do to prove that I'm the owner of the copyright of the page http://www.andremehu-aquarelles.com/en/article-87.php. I created already a Creative Commons Licence CC-BY-SA 3.0 on this page (only this page) of my website to avoid copyright concern. But it seems it's not enough. Therefore I decided to delete the page http://www.andremehu-aquarelles.com/en/article-87.ph from my website. Please could you verify that it doesn't exist any article-87 on my website. I hope this will be enough to prove that I was the writter of this aricle, and that I am the owner of the website http://www.andremehu-aquarelles.com. Consequently I hope you will allow me to re-submit again for review. Thank you.

Please let me konw your thoughts

Ilook forward to hearing from you soon

Regards --Lize56 (talk) 19:29, 30 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, Lize56,


 * I am not the best choice of an admin to ask about copyright licensing. I encourage you to choose an administrator who is, by looking at those listed in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to investigate copyright matters. All 7 of them are experienced administrators who I can easily recommend. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 19:58, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Category:The Dog and Its Reflection
Hello. I seem to have accidentally reverted you at Category:The Dog and Its Reflection as you didn't remove the CSD tag. I read the deletion rationale, checked for incoming links, and read and rejected the note on the talk page. It was only after deletion that I saw you'd already deleted and restored. Sorry about that. Was it the message on the talk page that changed your mind, and do you want to undelete again? (Feel free to revert me). --kingboyk (talk) 03:36, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought when I restored the category, it would reset the category deletion date to August 7th, kingboyk. Yes, the editor who left a note on the talk page seemed a bit confused by the process so I gave him another week to find an article to place in the category. No problem with deletion, I'll just restore it. Sorry for the confusion. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Evidently it doesn't, and we've both learnt something today :) No worries, and thanks. -- [please ping me if you need a reply] kingboyk (talk) 04:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation on my talk page, Liz, and for extending the deadline. I didn't know that there had to be documentary proof for a pictorial category. Anyway, there were plenty of articles to mention in the new objection I have made on the discussion page. The trouble with fables dating back 2,500 years (as this does), is that they change title over time. An alternative title is "The Dog and its/his Shadow", which is traditional but confusing since the primary meaning of the word 'shadow' is no longer 'reflection' - although Webster's dictionary gives that as a secondary meaning. Sorry to be so technical! Sweetpool50 (talk) 08:43, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Student Press Law Center
I saw you just handled the SPLC username issue, so just wanted to make sure we don't overlap with our editing. I'm looking at the page right now and I'll be dealing with some of the NPOV issues that their edits introduced. - Sdkb (talk) 18:53, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That's fine, Sdkb. I haven't looked at their edits, I was just looking at a list of newly created accounts to see if there are any group/company/organization-named accounts. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 18:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

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Sorry
I have made a mistake in my wording in my edit summary. I was meant to say that I was fixing the description of what Cultural Marxism is, because the previous description was wrong. Next time, I will say "fixed inaccurate information", rather than "fixed typo". Thank you 122.108.183.105 (talk) 04:46, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries, 122.108.183.105. It's not an uncommon error. Take care, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:09, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Zane Gardner
I would like to work on Zane Gardner article I am a once Martial artist turned painter from Dekalb Junction, New York I do have some pictures of myself as a martial artist and a painter ZanerG30 (talk) 04:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Zane Gardner
Is this to short now (born March 16th, 1990) once a martial artist under Tae Kwon Do and Combat Hapkido now turned a painter he paints with watercolors and acrylics he trained in Tae Kwon Do and Combat Hapkido trained until he got his 2nd dan black belt and brown third tip until his latest surgery happened. He was also known for his long range shooting ability in basketball and for the love of the game earned him the Don Petty sportsmanship award. He went to school Hermon-Dekalb Central School in Dekalb Junction, New YorK ZanerG30 (talk) 17:25, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The above paragraph can't be an article, ZanerG30. It needs references to reliable sources like books, magazines and prestigious websites, hopefully many references. Look at existing articles for other martial artists and check out Help:Your first article which can provide more guidance than I can offer. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Wooohoo

 * Thanks very much, Mjs1991, for the reminder! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!
<div class="boilerplate metadata" style="background-color:#E6E6FA; border: 1px solid #7D00B3; margin: 0.5em auto; padding: 0.5em; width:90%; text-align: center"> Happy Adminship Anniversary! Have a very happy adminship anniversary on your special day!

Best wishes, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:27, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the good wishes, Captain! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I am two days late but happy adminship anniversary. You are the best.--SharabSalam (talk) 00:23, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * That is very kind of you, SharabSalam. I try. ;-) Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Just look up Excel Fighter there’s my book
"Excel Fighters" Aaron's short story of how he got his powers and regains his memory. ZanerG30 (talk) 03:57, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you are talking about. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:59, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It’s a book I created about Martial artist I couldn’t send you the link it won’t let me would that be enough ZanerG30 (talk) 04:02, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=CU9KXc3EF_PqtQbwgYrYBA&q=excel+fighters+zane+gardner&oq=Exce&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-hp.1.0.35i39l3j0i20i263j0i131l3j0.4722.5942..6983...1.0..0.149.510.0j4......0....1.......8..46i131.BoZOqnKGctg This is Excel Fighters ZanerG30 (talk) 04:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz. I'm the editor who tagged Zane Gardner as an A7. If it wasn't already obvious, this guy is just trying to create his autobiography. I think a block would be in order if he keeps spamming. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 16:18, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I left a note for him yesterday. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

St. Joseph's Academy Page DELETED
Hello Liz, Hope you would be fine and doing well. I am Harshanandtheking007 and yesterday i created a page named St. Joseph's Academy. You have deleted my page citing the source http://www.formzero.in/school/St-Joseph-s-Academy and it seems you thought that i copied from there and created the page. No, that's not the case. That website has copied from the original source that is https://www.stjosephsacademy.in. I am a student of this St. Joseph's Academy School whose page you deleted. I was just appointed by my school to create a page of it. So, I request you to undelete my page and I am thanking you in advance for the same from the deepest point of my heart. Regards, --Harshanandtheking007 (talk) 10:12, 7 August 2019 (UTC) Harsh Anand
 * Harshanandtheking007, it doesn't matter that it is copied from a different website, it is still copyright infringement. The article has to be in your original words, not copied from any source. It can not be undeleted if it is a copyright violation. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, I completely understood thanks for that.--Harshanandtheking007 (talk) 12:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Are you online?
If yes, could I 'borrow' you for 60 seconds? --kingboyk (talk) 02:16, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I was eating dinner then but I'm online now. What's up, kingboyk? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:42, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, cool, thanks - just had a bite to eat myself but will be off to bed soon. I was wondering if you'd give me a second opinion on my deletion here - Draft:Naveed Mian? --kingboyk (talk) 02:44, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You made the right decision, kingboyk. I've seen a lot of these autobiographies this summer. I think it's rare that someone who is 20 years old would be notable enough for a Wikipedia article unless they are a stand-out athlete or a nationally known activist. Someone with a YouTube channel with 80,000 subscribers? I don't think that would even make YouTube's Top 100,000 channels. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:50, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Lovely, thanks for the sanity check. Much appreciated! --kingboyk (talk) 02:53, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks. I wasn't sure about that so I decided to be bold! It seemed unnecessarily detailed and personal. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:43, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

YGM
mail. — Ched : ?    —  05:37, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see it, Ched. I'll check my other folders. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

— Ched : ?    —  18:04, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * your question:
 * answer:
 * see also:
 * I'm not sure why you wouldn't have gotten the email - like you said, maybe the spam folder? — Ched : ?    —  18:06, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * GMail has a "Social" inbox and that's where I found it. I responded...thanks for filling me in. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:57, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

PDBe-KB page
Hi Liz, I am creating a page on PDBe-KB - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:A2-25/PDBe-KB. It would be great if you can provide your feedback on the page so I can finalise it before making it into an official article. The previous page I created was deleted and I am not that experienced in creating new pages although I have edited pages before hence any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks A2-25 (talk) 09:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, A2-25,
 * You need to demonstrate why PDBe-KB is notable which usually requires more than one reliable source to support that claim. I'm getting ready for a trip so I won't be around much in the next few days so I recommend going to Articles for Creation or the Teahouse for more specific advice. Good luck! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Camp Cedarbrook
Would you please restore these? When you do, please point it to the same page as Camp Stephens.

Thank you.

--evrik (talk) 21:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, evrik,
 * I've restored the two redirects but I won't direct them to Camp Stephens as that is just another redirect, not an article right now. So, I've directed them to Camp Stephen's redirect target which is Scouting in California. If Camp Stephens becomes an article, feel free to change the redirects to that page. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ilsetraut Hadot has been accepted
<div style="border:solid 1px #57DB1E; background:#E6FFE6; padding:1em; padding-top:0.5em; padding-bottom:0.5em; width:20em; color:black; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Ilsetraut Hadot, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!  scope_creep Talk  16:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

About American literature stubs
Hi Liz. Thanks for pointing out that the should be deleted. Just proceed! Regards, --Fadesga (talk) 19:16, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, Fadesga,
 * I don't know that it should be deleted. I just know that it is empty. After 7 days, if it is still empty, it will be deleted. If you can find some stubs that could be placed in the category, please use it. We want categories that are being used! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 19:39, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * As a matter of fact, the correct stub category in use is . That's why. Regards, --Fadesga (talk) 19:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, then, Fadesga, I guess it is time for this category to be gone. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:06, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

41.239.10.5
user:41.239.10.5 is making threats of violence. CLCStudent (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It's a LTA. They will be blocked and page reprotected soon. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


 * She is back under user:89.138.87.157 . CLCStudent (talk) 20:00, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, CLCStudent. I've blocked them both for a month and rev'deleted their rude edit summaries. I'm editing right now before sleeping but I'm in the midst of overseas travel so if they return, either you or Hell in a Bucket please contact a more active administrator. Thanks again for catching these accounts before they do too much damage. Your vigilance is appreciated! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 20:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I was trying to explain that above. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

26 hours is not a reason for CSD C1
Hi LiZ, You tagged Category:Climate change articles by importance for deletion. WP:WikiProject Climate change is a new project and we're doing a lot to get it off the ground. Please do not delete just yet. I left a more detailed message at the catgegory talk page. Please understand I'm going offline for several days, but havec been working steadily on categories, templates, and most recently finished a new 2.0 barnstar. Thanks for your patience. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 22:09, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't realize that they were part of a WikiProject, NewsAndEventsGuy. I will remove the tags. WikiProject categories are typically exempt from CSD C1 tagging. I will try to make sure they are not retagged. But even if they ahyre, empty categories that are tagged fall into Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion and are not deleted unless they are still empty 7 days later which should be fine for your schedule. And if they are deleted, let me know and you or I can recreate them. No worries! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 06:12, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding and such a fast response, and even more.... I saw from your contribs that you are out with a large push broom.... thanks for doing a lot of usually thankless house cleaning! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * As an introvert at WikiMania, sometimes it is nice to go a quiet place & do some editing & admin chores. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 10:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Interview request
Thanks for considering my request! Cheers, Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 21:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, Jmorgan (WMF),
 * I am still traveling until tomorrow. So, there might be a delay in my response. But I do reply, you will probably hear back from me on Friday. Thanks! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 07:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

article deletion
Hello,

I provided ample explanation of why the Michael Brunstroem article had previously been deleted in error on the talk page for that article, referring to Wikipedia's guidelines.

The guidelines state that an entertainer may be notable if their work is innovative, and I provided many sources of evidence that that was the case (he won an award for originality for crying out loud). I find it really perverse that you guys keep targetting the article. I understand why TheVintageFeminist is doing it, but the administrators?? What's gotten into you?

What is your justification for deleting it, apart from that it had been deleted before?

Regularuk (talk) 19:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * My justification is that the article had just been through a deletion discussion this year and the consensus was to delete the article. You can appeal that decision if you think it was closed in error at Deletion review. I looked at the article as it had been recreated and it still didn't meet notability standards. If you had sources on the article talk page, you should have worked at incorporating them into the article. But the deletion discussion went into great depth, reviewing the existing sources and found them to be insufficient to establish notability. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 19:23, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * For the record, Brunström first came to my attention in these two diffs: diff 1 and diff 2. I had never heard of him and decided to look at his bio which showed him to be non-notable. This was the response from Regularuk when I began an AfD Seems pretty vindictive of you to attack Brunström's page. I do not represent him. diff, and when I gave a warning about making personal attacks The way to convince me that you don’t have a vendetta is definitely to make a comment like this on my page. Very ironic. diff. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 17:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Heads up
Hey L, wanted to let you know I would be puling the maintenance tags off of:
 * Category:~genre~ novels (0 items)
 * Category:~country~ novels (0 items)
 * Category:~year~ novels (0 items)
 * Category:~language~-language novels (0 items)
 * and then let csd C1 do its job It is pretty clear from this discussion that these serve no purpose and should not have been created. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, UnitedStatesian. I think this is appropriate. And thank you for your speedy tagging of empty categories. Between the two of us, we seem to get to most of them. ;-) Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 07:54, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome, and thank you. Now if only Database reports/Polluted categories were so easy! UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Restore deleted redirects to Super Why! and talk archive
The Super Why! article has been recreated. Please restore the 12 redirects to the article that you have deleted. Also, please restore Talk:Super Why!/Archive 1. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 14:30, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course, GeoffreyT2000. Can you point me to a discussion of the undeletion of this article? I'm just curious as to whether there was any conversation about recreating a long-time article after it was deleted. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 07:53, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I could not find any discussion regarding the undeletion of the Super Why! article, which has been recreated by KStrain2000. For now, I have draftified the recreated article. Please re-delete the redirect SUPER WHY! and its talk page. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:34, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm just surprised that after a deletion by an experienced administrator that this article is back. And "re-delete"? What does that mean? Do you mean "restore", GeoffreyT2000? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:55, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You have already restored the redirect SUPER WHY!. Also, I have self-reverted my draftification of the article. You should now restore the other 11 redirects to the article as well as the talk archive. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:05, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅, GeoffreyT2000. My apologies for the delay. I was off-line for much of the weekend. Having a link to the deleted redirects saved me from combing through my deletion log. Thanks very much! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 14:49, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

TWA/InviteTW
Hi Liz. I was going to leave the following (or something like it, this is a first draft) on the talk page of the above 'template' (I believe there is a sister template too, which is very similar - ah yes, TWA/Invite):

Subject: This doesn't seem to me to the best way to welcome a user to Wikipedia

I've just seen this template placed (alone) onto some new users' talk pages in order to welcome them. I think this approach - and the template itself - is highly dubious.

Please don't misunderstand me - I support this project. I recently welcomed an off-wiki friend to Wikipedia and left her a standard welcome template, and she took part in the Adventure and found it quite useful.

However, the Adventure and the invitation to "Play" won't be for everyone. I for one am not interested in "Playing" anything. What, then, would I learn from my being welcomed by this template? Well, absolutely nothing, as this template doesn't offer any other information or alternatives should I not wish to "Play".The standard welcome template is far superior as it offers various links to read and promotes the Adventure.

I paused for thought as the talk activity around the WikiProject appears to be very low. I then considered proposing it for deletion but, well, I'm not sure.

I've had a skim read through Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure (2nd nomination) and saw that you'd participated in that discussion and held strong views on it. (I do not want to delete the Adventure.)

I thought it might be worth asking you what your thoughts are with regards to this template, whether it has value, and whether I should proceed with a discussion or a deletion discussion, or forget about it?

I'll close the template talk tab in the meantime, as I can always refer back to the diff here if I want to resurrect the draft! :) --kingboyk (talk) 23:37, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello, kingboyk,
 * I don't have an immediate response to your suggestion but will think about it this weekend and offer my thoughts. There has been a lot of research done, some by WMF, on bringing new editors into the fold and helping them become valued contributors. I'll see if there has been any assessment about the Wiki Adventure.
 * As for WikiProjects, I once did an assessment of them and they really need somewhere between 5-10 committed editors to keep them going. Lots of WikiProjects get started by an enthusiastic individual but they need a core group to really keep them going for more than a few months. They are really demanding of people's time to keep them active. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:58, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Liz. Just to make sure I'm being clear: I'm talking only about the templates (and their usefulness relative to the general welcome template which includes a link to the Adventure). The Wiki Adventure I have no problem with. Have a nice weekend! --kingboyk (talk) 03:30, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Islands of Taranaki
I've contested this. I only created the category yesterday and populated it as I was doing so. It certainly hasn't been empty for seven days. Grutness... wha?   04:12, 30 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Grutness,
 * I apologize that the Twinkle message that is left for category creators is not more clear. Empty categories that do not fall into a limited number of categories (disambiguation categories, category redirects, categories that are the subject of CFD discussions, etc.) are tagged. BUT they are not immediately deleted. They sit in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for 7 days. Nothing happens to them for a week. If, after 7 days, the categories are still empty, they are deleted. If there are pages assigned to an empty category over that 7 days and it is no longer empty, the tag is removed and it is removed from Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. Every week, a certain number of empty categories end up being filled and the speedy tags are removed. All you need to do is have at least one appropriate page/article assigned to an empty category over the next week and the tag will be removed.


 * But know that if an empty category is deleted, there is nothing to stop you from recreating it when if it can be later used. Categories that are deleted due to Categories for discussion debates can not be recreated but empty categories can be, at any time. I hope this allays your concerns. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 04:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. I know all that well - I've been an admin here for about ten years :) It's always worth checking how long since a category's been made before tagging it, though - if it's under 24 hours it could yet be filled. In this case I was just letting you know that the category had been incorrectly emptied,so wasn't really prod material. I'm glad you notified me though, otherwise I wouldn't have known about the prod! Grutness... wha?   05:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies for not checking out your account before "instructing you", Grutness. It was clearly out of place. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:03, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * :) No prob. BTW, I see a lot of good work from you around WP - good to finally be able to say hi! Grutness... wha?   04:28, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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CSD:C1
Hi Liz, I have User:Vatsmaxed's talk page on my watchlist, and I noticed your notification that you had nominated Category:Railway stations in Komaram Bheem district for speedy deletion under CSD:C1. As I read the criteria, the category has to have been unpopulated for at least 7 days before CSD:C1 applies. I don't think that was the case for Category:Railway stations in Komaram Bheem district which was only created yesterday. I note that there are some other categories you've nominated that are also new creations under 7 days old. Rather than revert a bunch of those, I thought I'd ask here; have I misunderstood the criteria? Thanks, (talk) 05:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, The Mirror Cracked,
 * I think if you look at the conversation I had above this one, you'll find an answer to your question. Basically, the 7 days BEGINS when the page is tagged, it doesn't precede it. Without tagging an empty category, we have no way of tracking which categories have been empty 7 days. The deletion happens if the tagged category is empty after 7 days. If it isn't empty after 7 days, then the tag is removed and the category is not deleted. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:38, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see, thank you. That explains it. The text at WP:C1 is very misleading then. I will attempt to update it. Best, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 22:47, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It's the Twinkle message to category creators that needs to be changed. I proposed a change a few months ago to it but I have neglected to carry it out. You're right, it is misleading and it has created unnecessary anxiety. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:52, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree, the Twinkle message needs to be updated as well. I've attempted to clarify how this works at WP:C1. I've also reverted my edit at Category:Railway stations in Komaram Bheem district (the other one I edited was already re-tagged with C1). Best, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 22:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

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