User talk:LizLou

Sources on AIATSIS history
Hi, I saw your request for sources on the history of AIATSIS. A former staff member, Jacqui Lambert, did a PhD in history at ANU on the early years of AIATSIS; here's a link. cheers, Dougg (talk) 01:17, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Your external link additions
Hi Liz, thanks for your edits to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander topics. However, I've unfortunately had to remove all the external links you recently added because they violate the prohibition that links should be directly related to the subject of the article (see point 13 of the guideline about Links normally to be avoided). Regarding the Austlang database links, I can understand the need to show people the disclaimer before they find the information, but there are ways to achieve that without linking people to the main page of a site (the NLA do it with their oral history interviews, for example). If you have any questions about my actions, feel free to contact me. Graham 87 06:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I've put back your edit to List of Australian Aboriginal languages because it was quite appropriate; I've also restored the tweaks you made to Burduna language and Torres Strait Creole. Please don't remove red links as you did at Jingulu language; they help Wikipedia grow. Fixing them is of course fine.
 * I've also noticed that there are fields in Infobox language (the template that creates the table at the top of each language article) for entries in the Auslang database. They're entitled aiatsis, aiatsis2 ... up to aiatsis8. Populating these fields where necessary would be far more productive than adding external links. Graham 87 07:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * This sounds sensible, as long as it's restricted to language groups only, as you said. A similar system is used to link to sound files of some works for organ by Bach, like the Schübler Chorales (see the second external link on that article). Graham 87 11:44, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Unfortunately, the map you're linking to is not much help to the articles. It's an ethnic map rather than a linguistic one, but also the reader has little way of finding the nation on the map. If we're going to tell the reader, here's a map of the language, we should actually provide a map of the language. — kwami (talk) 00:56, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

And why in the world would you add it to articles on plants?! — kwami (talk) 01:02, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I said that you could add the link to articles about language *groups*, not individual languages. But, Kwamikagami, if it wouldn't be useful even there, perhaps it shouldn't be added at all. I wouldn't know; I can't see it. Graham 87 01:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Graham. It would actually be less useful for groups than for languages, because the groups aren't on the map.  I created dozens of maps for branches of Australian language families, and it would be a lot of work to create maps for each language (more than I'm willing to put in), but IMO a generic map is still not very useful.  After all, we have it linked from the generic article, which IMO is where it belongs.
 * LinguistList started a collection of maps, one for each ISO language, which I was hoping to link to automatically, but they're defunct. If they ever come back (probably depends on funding), we can modify the language info box to link to them.
 * BTW, Liz, the zoom on the AIATSIS site doesn't work for me. It zooms *out*, not in, so it I can't read the individual language names at all.  — kwami (talk) 03:48, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; it'd be best to keep the links as they are now, then. (P.s. I wrote this before discovering [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kwamikagami&diff=prev&oldid=660888237 this message]). Graham 87 06:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Liz. I've gone through and tried to link to every entry AIATSIS has for a confirmed language, through the aiatsis fields in the language info box. I haven't listed each individual code, because that's not feasible, and they would gunk up the info box, but I have tried to link to an AIATSIS entry that mentions all the other relevant entries. Multiple entries are for when AIATSIS doesn't mirror our scope, so multiple entries are required if we're to cover everything they have. E.g., if we have a language A that covers varieties BCDE, and the AIATSIS entry for A says that BCD are dialects, then we would only link to A and E, because A links to BCD on the AIATSIS side. When people add redundant individual codes for BCD, I revert them, because for some languages (e.g. Western Desert, some of the Maric langs) that would require dozens of codes, which isn't feasible and would prevent us from being consistent between articles. I might be a bit blinkered in my POV, though, since I've done 99% of the work linking to AIATSIS, and it only reflects my goals. If you think our approach should change, let's talk. IMO, we should link to AIATSIS as a resource, so readers can find everything they need, but we shouldn't be an actual index for AIATSIS. — kwami (talk) 17:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Kwami, agreed. I think it would be better to avoid linking to the map until there is some kind of functionality that allows you to automatically pinpoint a particular language, without having to search. There is one other resource that AIATSIS has which would add value to language articles though, and that is language bibliographies. Much like linking to finding aids on relevant articles, which has been a successful value add undertaken by other libraries in the past. (For an example, see Michael O'Shaughnessy) This is where I will focus my energies, where AIATSIS holds a language bibliography for a language Wikipedia has an article for. LizLou (talk) 00:15, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done, thanks. LizLou (talk) 05:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. LizLou (talk) 06:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. LizLou (talk) 06:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. LizLou (talk) 06:11, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. LizLou (talk) 06:11, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. LizLou (talk) 06:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Done. LizLou (talk) 01:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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