User talk:Liz Sterling

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Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Liz Sterling, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to American Thinker have been removed, as they appear to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues here.


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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 08:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

American Thinker
Besides the fact that you copied straight from the site, which was a copyright violation, that same page says "Please support the site and help a strong conservative voice." It's hard to understand why you disagree with that. There are of course times when organisations misrepresent themselves to be more acceptable to their target audience, and then we use other reliable sources to describe them, but this doesn't seem to be the case. Doug Weller talk 08:49, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello Doug
Sorry. I did change the wording some, but it was a short sentence (with a reference), and I was wanting their basic description of themselves. I will be more careful when writing descriptions in the future. Also, I didn't see the sentence you referred to at the time, but I don't think it's a good idea to label, unless all--in this case news websites/magazine--are labeled. That's why I deleted "conservative." It was an opinion with no reference. 04:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Liz Sterling (talk)
 * Horses for courses, there is no one size fits all. The American Thinker isn't exactly a news site, it's an advocate site - as my edit summary said, the about page on its website says " Please support the site and help a strong conservative voice". That seems to be a pretty basic description of themselves. There are times when we might not accept a self-description at face value, but with reliable sources saying its politics are different (eg perhaps "alt-right") there's no reason not to call it what it says it is. We would call the Daily Worker a Communist newspaper, for instance. Doug Weller  talk 12:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)