User talk:Lizziewhiz

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Proposed deletion of Game of Pies


The article Game of Pies has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Made up in one day

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. red dog six (talk) 01:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

October 2013
Hello, I'm BusterD. I noticed that you made a change to an article, List of traditional children's games, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. BusterD (talk) 02:52, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of List of Children's Games: Pies


A tag has been placed on List of Children's Games: Pies, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

it contains no reliable sources and is therefore not verifiable.

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Jinkinson (talk) 17:25, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Response to Help Request
My source for this article is my own memories of my childhood in upstate New York during the 1940's and 1950's. How can I reference that or cite that? I know a bit of html. Thanks.


 * Unfortunately, you cannot. Wikipedia has a bunch of rather arcane rules for providing citations for material, and personal experiences fall under the category of original research. A proper citation has to be verifiable: it must be referenced to something that was published in a reliable source which is independent of its subject. If you still live nearby, you might be able to find something in a local historical journal or even a local newspaper of the period, but personal recollections (even memoirs from a person who lived through an event or knew a person) do not meet the threshold for verifiability or reliability. (I apologize for the profusion of wikilinks, but it's the easiest way to explain how all of these guidelines and policies tie together). If you have any further questions, you can contact me on my talk page (although my editing is rather sporadic), or visit the Teahouse, or use the template again to get another editor's attention for assistance.  Horologium  (talk) 18:27, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * (added later) Were you trying to write an article about this game? (Unfortunately, that link is not a reliable source, but it does establish that something exists out there on the internet about such a game.) Don't give up; it may take quite a while to find other citations, but they may exist. You might want to see if your library has a section on children's games; there are quite a few books out there, and some of them may discuss or describe the game for which you are trying to create an article.  Horologium  (talk) 18:36, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * (added still later) The game already has an article here on Wikipedia: Pie (children's game). It's also totally unreferenced, but it's been here since 2008. (Wikipedia's standards have improved over the years, and new articles receive a greater level of scrutiny than ones which have been here for a while.) If you want to improve that article (such as adding references), that would be great. In the meantime, I am going to redirect List of Children's Games: Pies to the already existing article.  Horologium  (talk) 18:54, 5 October 2013 (UTC)