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Speedy deletion nomination of Pure room


A tag has been placed on Pure room, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

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As reviewing administrator, I deleted the page as advertising. On the now deleted talk p., you wrote " [hide] This page also has a talk page (edit | delete). You may want to delete it as well – click [show] to view the contents. 1 Contested deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --Ljflaig0 (talk) 20:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

(i removed all ties to the company it is made by, this is simply helping the community understand the inner working of a pure hypoallergenic room and why they are around. it is to help asthma sufferers in any way possible, not particular to any one company, it is just a new product that is not well known in the press im trying to provide a explanation to those who are curious what is is."

The article remains promotional of the product, from the first sentence, "PURE ROOMS” a innovated patented system" to the last "the goal of the room concept is to provide guests with relief from allergies, mold, bacteria, odors and other conditions that make staying in a frequently used guest room uncomfortable so you can breath easy, and rest peacefully." This is promotional not encyclopedic language. Advertisements refer to "you". WP does not.

I recognize that the refs. from the NYT and CR are good ones, and that it therefore might be possible to write a satisfactory article, The UBuffalo article should be cited directly, not from the company's website. I notice that the NYT articles talks about the concept & mentions another company's products also, and additionally includes an authority saying many of the claimed benefits are doubtful, as well as the reporter's own statement that she could not tell the difference. The CR article talks about the existence of the systems and its degree of adoption, but says nothing about the actual benefits. It does say that what the FDA certifies as a medical device is the air purification unit, not the entire system. Both articles indicate very strongly that this is in considerable part  installed to differentiate the chains for marketing purposes,  as much as   an actually necessary improvement.

But a Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is generally no purpose in giving permission; it is better to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to prospective clients that sort of content is considered promotional.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. And keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. '''The first step in rewriting is to write the article under a generic name, just as the NYT and CR did. After you do that, you can indeed mention the two trademarks of the products and even the names of the manufacturers. And use as few adjectives as possible, and as little repetition.   DGG''' ( talk ) 23:06, 27 November 2012 (UTC)