User talk:Llll5032/Archive 7

Your draft article, Draft:Steven S. Biss


Hello, Llll5032. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Steven S. Biss".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 01:54, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

May 2022
Your edit to Imperium: The Philosophy of History and Politics has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images&mdash;you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Copying text from other sources for more information. You flew a little too close to the Black Sun on this one. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:10, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing this, Firefangledfeathers. I agree it was too close to the original source's wording. Llll5032 (talk) 15:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Nicest response I've ever gotten for this template! I see there was another tidbit in the body. Could you help go through the Black Sun citations and review for any other copied language? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, Firefangledfeathers -- I recall this edit, not by me, which copied a sentence from Black Sun word for word ("Following Spengler ..."), and most of a sentence from Maibaum too. I can look more closely later today. Llll5032 (talk) 16:13, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like Diannaa cleaned that up after a few days. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * She deleted the refquotes but not the article wording (I edited some words, but parts remain). Llll5032 (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If you mean "birth, growth, maturity, fulfillment and death", then I think it's ok. I'm not confident, but I don't think there are many other ways to phrase Yockey's proposed pattern. Anyway, it's really language coming from Imperium itself and not Black Sun, and it's clear we're presenting Yockey's ideas. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:53, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * All right -- I believe that copyvios of Black Sun are now gone from the article. Llll5032 (talk) 02:06, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Unusual activity
Hello,

You have reverted my recent edit on Cultural Marxism page, just few hours after I made it, even though you did not seem to have history of editing on that page. Having noticed similar pattern on other pages (namely on The Enemy of Europe, where you also removed my edits only few hours after I have created the page), I think it is not unreasonable for me to assume that you might be stalking me. If that is correct, I would gladly ask you to stop.ArsenalAtletico2017 (talk) 18:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I cannot speak for Llll5032, but I am certainly going to be following your edits,, until you alleviate my concerns by editing appropriately for a solid chunk of time. It is indeed unreasonable for you to refer to such behavior as "stalking" because our policy on harassment makes clear that Correct use of an editor's history includes (but is not limited to) fixing unambiguous errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, or correcting related problems on multiple articles. Your recent behavior has made clear that problems related to Francis Parker Yockey are something which the community should be on the lookout for, and following your editing history is a totally legitimate way to do so. The best solution is simply to bring any potentially controversial edits to the relevant talk pages before editing, and to engage there in good-faith dialogue with those who might disagree with you. Or even just to leave off editing controversial topics altogether for a while. Generalrelative (talk) 19:53, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess I will have to move to new account.ArsenalAtletico2017 (talk) 20:08, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Using multiple accounts to avoid scrutiny is called sockpuppetry and it will very likely result in all your accounts being indefinitely blocked. That is not a legitimate option for you. Generalrelative (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Antony C. Sutton
Hello,

I noticed the the primary source tags you’ve been adding and the text removals from the Antony C. Sutton page. You cited WP:SPS but made no mention of WP:ABOUTSELF, so I’m curious why you don’t believe the text and sources you removed don’t meet the criteria for inclusion.

Thanks for your time.

Neighborhood Review (talk) 07:30, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Neighborhood Review, thanks for writing. I want to talk through the inclusions with you and other editors at the article talk page. I'll start a discussion there. Llll5032 (talk) 03:47, 13 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello again Llll5032, thanks for writing back. I appreciate your critical review of the page and I want to acknowledge the discussion you started on the talk page, but unfortunately I haven’t had the time since then to offer an appropriate reply. I hope to have that opportunity in the next week or so, I just wanted to let you know in the meantime that I saw your post. Neighborhood Review (talk) 05:41, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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Following my edits? Possible WP:HARASS concerns.
Hey Llll5032, for the past few weeks I noticed that you have been following a lot of my edits on various articles. For example, the moment I stated that I was the creator of the Joshua Katz article on my personal page, you began editing that article. You did the same with Dixie where you offered relatively unhelpful suggestions. It's beginning to be quite irritating, not to mention hounding (WP:HARASS). I hope that you are only doing this for constructive purposes rather than to discourage me from editing. Your tracking of my edits began after I discussed the Daily Wire article with Valjean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuardianH (talk • contribs) 04:28, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing, GuardianH. I don't want to discourage you from editing. Until Katz today, I don't recall editing any of your work except for the DW and my "citation needed" tag at Dixie two weeks ago. I am sorry you did not think my templated suggestions on your talk page then were helpful. Llll5032 (talk) 05:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I have edited another article you worked on, but not to discourage you from editing. Llll5032 (talk) 03:15, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * For the record, it is worth noting you have also followed my edits on the Hoover Institution, John Yoo, and Thomas J. Katz (a page linked with Joshua Katz) in addition to my edits on Thomas Sowell, Dixie, and Joshua Katz — all pages which, by a cursory check of the edit log, you have not visited previously before I edited them. I would consider most of them constructive, if not for the fact that it seems that you are only editing these pages primarily focusing on overturning my edits in particular, and not other issues further down in the articles written by others. For example, you re-arranged much of my edits on John Yoo, but seemed to have missed a very obvious abridgment of WP:OVERCITE that was further down in the article.
 * I'm not going to accuse you for the nature of the neutrality of your editing, but I would like to make it clear that I think you are deliberately following my edits and primarily changing specifically my edits on pages, which makes me uncomfortable. If you are going to follow my edits, I think it would be better that you do more of expanding the article's material (like you did here ) rather than re-arranging or deleting mine.
 * If I am mistaken in thinking you are deliberately following my edits, please address them here. GuardianH (talk) 00:23, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Regarding the recent edits, you edit some pages that I watch, including Yoo, which I have edited since 2020, and I didn't follow your edit for the linked Thomas Katz article either, where our edits appear to be separated by two months and I didn't change your edit. I have noticed some patterns in your editing, which I have aimed to be constructive in addressing. We all must be careful about reliance on WP:PRIMARY or WP:QUESTIONABLE sources, interpret WP:BESTSOURCES carefully, try for WP:CONSENSUS, check our own biases, and follow guidelines like MOS:LEADREL and WP:LEADBIO carefully. I don't wish to inhibit any of your enjoyment of editing (per WP:HOUND), and I don't change your edits outside policy. I also ask you not to try to cause me discomfort about editing any articles, including the articles you edit. We are welcome to edit, constructively, any article on Wikipedia. Thank you. Llll5032 (talk) 01:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Do not try to turn the tables on this issue. I have never attempted to cause you discomfort in your edits, but rather you have caused me discomfort for the aforementioned reason of deliberately following my edits. The article Thomas J. Katz is, as I have mentioned, linked with Joshua Katz which is a page I created and authored...do you mean to say you stumbled across the the page for Thomas J. Katz randomly? Of course not, you did so because it was linked with Joshua Katz.
 * As I have previously stated, my problem is not necessarily that your edits are not constructive, but rather you follow and specifically target my edits on pages—sometimes unconstructively, i.e. re-arranging the sentence structure after I edited it like you did in John Yoo—and often ignore other problems in a page which weren't edited by me. Because you deliberately follow and sometimes unconstructively edit pages I've written in, your consistently overriding edits come into a collision course with getting into an Edit war, which I dislike.
 * Your claim that you've edited the page for John Yoo since in 2000 cannot be true, because the page was only made in 2005 and you have only started editing since 2020...did you mean to say 2020? (Future note: It has been edited to be the correct date)
 * Once again, I ask that if you are dead-set on stalking my edits, at least expand the article's material (like you did here ) rather than overriding or re-arranging my own edits. Thanks. GuardianH (talk) 01:57, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not "turning the tables". Thank you for recognizing my constructive edits; I recognize yours. When you think edits by me or another editor are contrary to either reliably sourced facts or WP:PAGS, then please correct them or discuss on the article talk page per WP:EPTALK. This includes "correcting related problems on multiple articles", which in some situations is encouraged. Please also read WP:HA in full. If you think your version of a disputed edit should be included, then you have recourses including achieving a WP:CONSENSUS on the talk page or asking for more opinions at a topic noticeboard like WP:BLPN. Llll5032 (talk) 02:21, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, yes, I meant to write "2020" in the earlier reply. I think I fixed it before you replied. And you are correct that the Thomas Katz article was linked from the Joshua article. Llll5032 (talk)
 * Adding: Until recently, I was not aware that the WP:HA section addresses your questions about this dispute so clearly. Have you read it? I'm not interested in most of your edits. I think you can understand from my summaries and talk page discussions (in the several articles where we have interacted) that I have tried to address some related policy, sourcing and factual questions about specific edits -- especially the rewriting of the tops of articles and the introduction of some unclearly sourced claims. Those require more scrutiny than other editing does. Llll5032 (talk) 18:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

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Evola
Thank you for your excellent edits on the Julius Evola page. The article is in much better shape because of you. Schenkstroop (talk) 12:55, 26 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your kind note Schenkstroop, and for your excellent edits in the article too. More soon. Llll5032 (talk) 14:23, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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