User talk:Lmcphail

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May 2018
Hello, I'm Me-123567-Me. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to List of ministers of the Universal Life Church have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Me-123567-Me (talk) 21:22, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Alexf(talk) 01:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC)



I'm not sure if this will continue the discussion started regarding my addition to List of ministers of the Universal Life Church, but I'll try it anyway. I understand that I may not hear back from either of you. First, to Alexf's note: I removed the link to an external site from my edit, realizing that it may be seen as inappropriate. It was a link to my LinkedIn page as a reference to who I am and why I might be notable -- my extensive non-profit involvement and experience, which is what recently led to my involvement with the ULC in the first place. I sell nothing, offer no monetization of the LinkedIn page, and did not offer it in as a part of a collection of links, but actually as a reference. In spite of not advertising nor promoting anything, I removed the link before I finally "published." I will read the references you included, and thank you for that. The nofollow attribute is of no concern to me as I didn't offer the link for purposes of advertising or promotion.

Me-123567, thank you for your comments and your diligence in keeping Wikipedia a constructive tool on the Internet. I don't object to the undoing of my contribution to List of ministers of the Universal Life Church as perhaps they &quot;did not appear constructive.&quot; They were in keeping with the context of the article however:

''&quot;The following is a list of notable people who have been ordained as ministers in the Universal Life Church. This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it with reliably sourced entries.&quot;''

I am indeed an ordained minister of the ULC, and I believe notable, at least to some, if not to all, in ways that I included in my note to Alexf. I am Canadian-born, I have been a volunteer EMT in New Jersey for 35 years, I am involved in several non-profit organizations, including the just-now-forming Universal Life Church of New Jersey (ULC-NJ), and I am a Systems Engineer involved in IT for about 37 years. I've had my Wikipedia user for many years, and I've donated to Wikipedia, and while this isn't my first attempt at contributing to an article (I think I contributed to Lake Mohawk, New Jersey years ago) it is my first in a long, long time.

Thank you both for taking the time to educate me. I'm going to defer to your experience, but I didn't want to just go away without explaining why I thought to make the contribution. I'm going to sign this post, I hope, and then let it go.

Larry McPhail (talk) 17:35, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You say "you may be notable". Please read the requirements to assert notability. Even if you were, you cannot/should not write about yourself. Conflicts of interest, and even worse, autobiographies are strongly discouraged. If you are notable, and verifiable, reliable, independent sources are available, someone will, in time, write about you. Until then, please do not add yourself to articles. -- Alexf(talk) 19:35, 23 May 2018 (UTC)